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Suarez has missed a lot of balls that should have gone in. Not saying he is a liability for the team, but i don't think it should be a big deal. I agree with you on the extra time. They dominated the second half and choked on the last mins of the game + all of extra time....

Suarez as had a great tourney, and he always seems to put himself
in position to score, although he didn't convert today he's all over the opportunities.
I think it's a huge deal that he's out for Tuesday's match against Holland.
 

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if van marjwik plays it safe like i unfortunately think he will....van der vaart gets back in the lineup...like stated b4...if he has a dick and wants to put a show on for the world to see the dutch at their finest and future he would start elia...he has game changing pace and possession...van der vaart is a poor man's van persie...and we already have one van pussy...some people think de jong will be sorely missed(agreed to SOME extent)i think van der wiel is more of a miss fer the dutch....i have always thought van bommel and de jong were doing the same thing on the team in the same position...starting elia out on the wing gives them the open 'dutch' feel to the team....as has been seen when he has gotten starts or been subbed in....cheers
 

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if van marjwik plays it safe like i unfortunately think he will....van der vaart gets back in the lineup...like stated b4...if he has a dick and wants to put a show on for the world to see the dutch at their finest and future he would start elia...he has game changing pace and possession...van der vaart is a poor man's van persie...and we already have one van pussy...some people think de jong will be sorely missed(agreed to SOME extent)i think van der wiel is more of a miss fer the dutch....i have always thought van bommel and de jong were doing the same thing on the team in the same position...starting elia out on the wing gives them the open 'dutch' feel to the team....as has been seen when he has gotten starts or been subbed in....cheers

He doesn't have the dick.
 

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Suarez as had a great tourney, and he always seems to put himself
in position to score, although he didn't convert today he's all over the opportunities.
I think it's a huge deal that he's out for Tuesday's match against Holland.

+1. Agree with you here.

The reason I think Suarez is a bigger blow to Uruguay than Van Der Wiel is for the Dutch is quite simple: When you think of Uruguay, you think of Suarez and Forlan. They have supplied most of Uruguay's offense so far and I think Pereira is the only other player who has notched a goal in this tourney for Uruguay, outside of this dynamic duo. You take Suarez out and who else is supposed to step up? I have not seen anyone on that team with Suarez' instincts and skills, besides Forlan, obviously.

Can the Dutch capitalize on this? They will be missing some key defenders so it may not be a walk in the park as the first glance indicates.
 

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fyi-van pussy is having his arm scanned at a hospital and mathijsen his knee...results have not come back yet...news of a possible van pussy not playing might sink this line....might wanna wait to hear the results of the scan in lieu of the line....now this makes things even juicier...now if van pussy doesn't play...does huntelaar step in or does van der vaart take striker position and elia come in on the wing where a van der vaart would play fer de jong..line up scenarios are starting to get interesting if van pussy is out(which i am sure everyone is shocked that he is injured, yet again)..cheers
 

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van pussy and mathijsen cleared today to play on tues...now do we see van der vaart or elia coming on to take de jongs spot?....or dose van marjwik reach into his bag and give babel a go?
 

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I just don't know if this Uruguayan team still has enough personnel to cope with the Dutch on Tuesday. Mid-fielder Lodeiro broke a bone in his foot in the Ghana game and will be out. Suarez and Fucile will not be available due to suspension. Logano may not play, pending fitness results.

If the Dutch can neutralize Forlan, where will the Uruguyan offense come from? This could get ugly.
 

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i have already unloaded at many outs already on the oranje....none of these injuries to either side have wavered my opinion and support for them....cheers
 
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van pussy and mathijsen cleared today to play on tues...now do we see van der vaart or elia coming on to take de jongs spot?....or dose van marjwik reach into his bag and give babel a go?

De Zeeuw is the most logical replacement for de Jong. Elia and Babel are wingers, v/d Vaart could play that position if needed.
 

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i have already unloaded at many outs already on the oranje....none of these injuries to either side have wavered my opinion and support for them....cheers


what is the play you recommend loading up on? to advance is -300, -1 goal is + money, and win in 90 min is about -140.
 

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i played -1/2@-50 for the limit at a few outs...i only play 90'+inj....the last thing the dutch want is o.t./pk's...believe they get it done and hopefully convincingly...cheers
 

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My offshore book had Netherlands @ -1/2 +120.
I was shocked. I hit it for thr max bet. Then they took
it off the board and put it back up @ -150.

I'm locked in @ +120.
 

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My offshore book had Netherlands @ -1/2 +120.
I was shocked. I hit it for thr max bet. Then they took
it off the board and put it back up @ -150.

I'm locked in @ +120.
good find...i prolly wouldn't have been able to make that bet, due to the fact that i would be on the ground hyperventilating....cheers
 

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good find...i prolly wouldn't have been able to make that bet, due to the fact that i would be on the ground hyperventilating....cheers

I was hyperventilating, but fortunately I was able to stay in my chair.
I may be the only one on the planet who has this game at Holland -1/2 +120.

I hit it for the max bet, 400/480,
I already had 155/100, so now I'm up to
555/580. It's a substantial bet for a $50 per unit player.

It will be a rush one way or the other. ;)

GO ORANJE !
 

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