The phony SHIT books don't have a clue so they just throw everyone out that has a clue. Players should not play at these shit places. Sportbooks like Olympic, Pinnacle and a few others do not fear people who win because they take action on both sides and look to make money on the juice. They also know that people who win big usually will end up losing it all back anyway.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JohnnyDetroit:
SIA around 15k you get walking papers.
VIP, Fairdeal etc you get dual lines after a few bets. Lasted in Fairdeal for maybe 72 hours.
Emails in regards to the way you play with possibility of lowering limits at Gameday.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
SIA is 15k??? i'm down at SIA overall so I'm not even close. I used to bet mostly parlays before I got here at the rx. If you take away my parlays i'm actually on the plus side by a good amount. The key is to have 1) patience and 2) a large starting bankroll that you can make good money better one team wagers.
I want some numbers ..maybe SIA can give me my complete betting history.
SIA around 15k you get walking papers.
VIP, Fairdeal etc you get dual lines after a few bets. Lasted in Fairdeal for maybe 72 hours.
Emails in regards to the way you play with possibility of lowering limits at Gameday.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
SIA is 15k??? i'm down at SIA overall so I'm not even close. I used to bet mostly parlays before I got here at the rx. If you take away my parlays i'm actually on the plus side by a good amount. The key is to have 1) patience and 2) a large starting bankroll that you can make good money better one team wagers.
I want some numbers ..maybe SIA can give me my complete betting history.
Chuck Sims:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Sportbooks like Olympic, Pinnacle and a few others do not fear people who win because they take action on both sides and look to make money on the juice. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Funny that you mention two of the biggest betting ops. Nothing against these 2 fine shops (quite possibly the top 2 books in the industry right now), but these guys are not only booking. So you're wrong about them having balanced books based solely on booking. I thought that was a known fact.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Sportbooks like Olympic, Pinnacle and a few others do not fear people who win because they take action on both sides and look to make money on the juice. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Funny that you mention two of the biggest betting ops. Nothing against these 2 fine shops (quite possibly the top 2 books in the industry right now), but these guys are not only booking. So you're wrong about them having balanced books based solely on booking. I thought that was a known fact.
I can't remember who first posted this but interested to hear if anyone disagrees. Don't take it all as gospel but I think it's pretty close from what I have seen and heard. At least what my buddies have told me....
Here is how several sportsbooks react to sharp action. Every book has their breaking point, so if anyone can help expand this list I would appreciate it:
1. Bet365. Lower limits to about 10% of normal. Please note that they react to STEAM action --not necessarily winners.
2. Canbet. Lower limits to 20-25% of normal. They react to $40-$50k winners or more.
3. Heritage. You won't get far here. They will close your account and send you a check if they don't like your action. They are not very tolerant and even small winners or a few steam plays will get their attention. Apparently they were much more tolerant in the past, but they remain very polite.
4. Intertops. Will send a courteous email telling you that your limits have been lowered. You can win $10-$20k before this happens. Steam will make this happen much sooner.
5. Pinnacle. They will lower your limits to $500 across the board. They don't bother steam players, just big winners ($100k or more).
6. VIP. They will change your account to "phone only." If you try to call in a play they don't like (steam, for example), they'll change the line after you tell them what you want to bet. This will happen after 5-10 steam plays or winnings of $10-$20k.
7. Wagerstreet. They will lower your limits. This will happen if you play steam or bet any of their "unique" lines. I am not sure how this place stays in business as they make a LOT of mistakes -- I have seen several games with one team at +100 and the other at +120. They will allow about $5-$10k in winnings or a couple steam plays or ONE bad line bet. Don't be fooled by their "instant approval" system... if your account is flagged they wont approve much.
8. WSEX. If you win $50-$100k here they will flag your account. What this means is that ALL wagers require manual approval from them. When this happens, you won't be able to place any wagers after hours, as there will not be anyone there to press the "approve" button. The good news is that they are fairly reasonable about approving wagers from sharps. Their software automatically moves lines based on action, but after a manual approval they usually will move it by hand.
Here is how several sportsbooks react to sharp action. Every book has their breaking point, so if anyone can help expand this list I would appreciate it:
1. Bet365. Lower limits to about 10% of normal. Please note that they react to STEAM action --not necessarily winners.
2. Canbet. Lower limits to 20-25% of normal. They react to $40-$50k winners or more.
3. Heritage. You won't get far here. They will close your account and send you a check if they don't like your action. They are not very tolerant and even small winners or a few steam plays will get their attention. Apparently they were much more tolerant in the past, but they remain very polite.
4. Intertops. Will send a courteous email telling you that your limits have been lowered. You can win $10-$20k before this happens. Steam will make this happen much sooner.
5. Pinnacle. They will lower your limits to $500 across the board. They don't bother steam players, just big winners ($100k or more).
6. VIP. They will change your account to "phone only." If you try to call in a play they don't like (steam, for example), they'll change the line after you tell them what you want to bet. This will happen after 5-10 steam plays or winnings of $10-$20k.
7. Wagerstreet. They will lower your limits. This will happen if you play steam or bet any of their "unique" lines. I am not sure how this place stays in business as they make a LOT of mistakes -- I have seen several games with one team at +100 and the other at +120. They will allow about $5-$10k in winnings or a couple steam plays or ONE bad line bet. Don't be fooled by their "instant approval" system... if your account is flagged they wont approve much.
8. WSEX. If you win $50-$100k here they will flag your account. What this means is that ALL wagers require manual approval from them. When this happens, you won't be able to place any wagers after hours, as there will not be anyone there to press the "approve" button. The good news is that they are fairly reasonable about approving wagers from sharps. Their software automatically moves lines based on action, but after a manual approval they usually will move it by hand.
