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Not me at all but, I am very fit, exercise daily, and dabble in physical eclectic defensive activities caz that be how I roll! Love it! cheersgif
 

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Do you have a good reason for not drinking bottled water


Most of them are just tap water anyway. The chemicals can make it into your water. Now, they claim plastic bottles are bpa "free" when they just changed the name to BPZ. Its all a swindle if you ask me. If you like paying 3-6 dollars for a 24 pack of water be my guess lol. I get my reverse osmosis filtered water at .39 a gallon with a .20 credit for bringing my own bottle, .19 a gallon aint bad at all for water thats way better. Just food for thought.

It also amazes what people put in their body. I was guilty myself for a long time. People invest large sums of money into real estate or an expensive car but then turn around and spend $5 on an extra value meal. I try to eat everything organic.
 

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BPA is the starting material for making polycarbonate plastics. Any leftover BPA that is not consumed in the reaction used to make a plastic container can leach into its contents. From there it can enter the body. BPS was a favored replacement because it was thought to be more resistant to leaching. If people consumed less of the chemical, the idea went, it would not cause any or only minimal harm.
Yet BPS is getting out. Nearly 81 percent of Americans have detectable levels of BPS in their urine. And once it enters the body it can affect cells in ways that parallel BPA. A 2013 study by Cheryl Watson at The University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston found that even picomolar concentrations (less than one part per trillion) of BPS can disrupt a cell’s normal functioning, which could potentially lead to metabolic disorders such as diabetes and obesity, asthma, birth defects or even cancer. “[Manufacturers] put ‘BPA-free’ on the label, which is true. The thing they neglected to tell you is that what they’ve substituted for BPA has not been tested for the same kinds of problems that BPA has been shown to cause. That’s a little bit sneaky,” Watson says.
A 2011 study published in Environmental Health Perspectives found that almost all of the 455 commercially available plastics that were tested leached estrogenic chemicals. This study lead to a bitter legal battle between ******* Chemical Co. and the study’s author, George Bittner, professor of neurobiology at The University of Texas at Austin and founder of CertiChem and PlastiPure, two companies designed to test and discover nonestrogenic plastics.
Bittner claimed in the peer-reviewed report that *******’s product Tritan, marketed to be completely free of estrogenic leaching, showed such activity. ******* claimed otherwise and filed a suit. A federal jury ruled in favor of the latter, saying Bittner’s testing methods were inadequate because the tests were done in vitro—in a petri dish rather than in vivo, in a live animal.
Since this episode, independent scientists have focused their efforts on in vivo testing. Deborah Kurrasch, from the University of Calgary, turned to zebra fish to study the effects of BPS on embryo development. Brain development in zebra fish is similar to that in humans but much easier to track. When the fish were dosed with BPS in similar concentrations to that found in a nearby river, neuronal growth exploded, rising 170 percent for fish exposed to BPA and a whopping 240 percent for those exposed to BPS. As the fish aged they began zipping around their tank much faster and more erratically than the unexposed fish. The researchers concluded that increased neural growth likely lead to hyperactivity. “Part of the problem with endocrine disruptors is they usually have a U-shaped dose response profile,” Kurrasch says. “At very low doses they have activity and then as you increase the dose it drops in activity. Then at higher doses it has activity again.” She found a very low dose—1,000-fold lower than the daily recommended amount for humans—can affect neural growth in zebra fish.
In another study, Hong-Sheng Wang, an associate professor at the University of Cincinnati, found that both BPA and BPS cause heart arrhythmia in rats. He tested almost 50 rats, giving them the chemicals in doses akin to concentrations found in humans. Even at such low concentrations the rats’ hearts began to race, but curiously only those of the females. They found that BPS blocked an estrogen receptor found only in female rats, which lead to the disruption of calcium channels—a common cause of heart arrhythmia in humans.
These in vivo studies agree with in vitro studies claiming that BPS is a hazard. But the problem doesn’t stop with removing bisphenol S from the market as was done for bisphenol A. The problem, according to Kurrasch, lies in the lack of industry regulation. Currently, no federal agency tests the toxicity of new materials before they are allowed on the market. “We’re paying a premium for a ‘safer’ product that isn’t even safer,” Kurrasch says. There are many types of bisphenols out there, so part of the public’s responsibility “is making sure [manufacturers] don’t just go from BPA to BPS to BPF or whatever the next one is.”

*Clarification (8/12/14): This sentence was edited after posting to more precisely explain how the BPA ban came about.



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I'm a pescatarian but not a vegan....even my fish intake is quite limited (1 or 2 servings/week)

read this story last week about a dumbass here in Pittsburgh

She was proud to be a vegan, and wanted her son to live like she did. But her family members said she took her food choices too far — her diet became a danger, in their eyes, something closer to an obsession than a healthy lifestyle.

“She was going to live on water and sunlight,” her sister-in-law told CBS Pittsburgh.

When the 33-year-old woman from western Pennsylvania, Elizabeth Hawk, began feeding her 11-month-old child sparse meals of only fruit and nuts, however, that was beyond the pale.

The boy developed what the sister-in-law, Brandy Hawk, described as a severe rash. He seemed to have lost control of his motor skills, she said, rendering his hands useless. Elizabeth Hawk countered allergies were the reason for his apparent malaise, not the diet.

That argument did not convince Jerry Hawk, Elizabeth’s separated husband and the father of the child. He removed his son from his estranged wife’s care, taking the boy to a Children & Youth Services agency in nearby Fayette County. From there, reported Philly.com, the agency transported the child to a hospital in West Virginia.
An attending physician said the lack of nutritious food, according to Pennsylvania’s WKBN, caused a “failure to thrive.” Malnourishment had hindered the boy’s ability to develop, and ignoring the skin condition could have led to septic shock.

It is not inevitable that a vegan-only menu would doom young children to sickness or starvation, as The Washington Post wrote in July. But a commitment to veganism can make raising a healthy child more challenging, as parents must ensure that a child ingests sufficient calories and the correct balance of nutrients. In 2001, for instance, a pair of vegetarian nutritionists published recommendations for vegan infants in the Journal of the American Dietetic Association:

“For the first 4 to 6 months, breast milk should be the sole food with soy-based infant formula as an alternative. Commercial soymilk should not be the primary beverage until after age 1 year. Breastfed vegan infants may need supplements of vitamin B-12 if maternal diet is inadequate; older infants may need zinc supplements and reliable sources of iron and vitamins D and B-12. Timing of solid food introduction is similar to that recommended for non-vegetarians. Tofu, dried beans, and meat analogs are introduced as protein sources around 7-8 months. Vegan diets can be planned to be nutritionally adequate and support growth for infants.”

The young boy now lives with his father. Brandy Hawk, the sister-in-law, told CBS Pittsburgh the child is “doing great” and has “turned completely around.”

Elizabeth Hawk faces charges of child endangerment, and was released on her own recognizance. A preliminary hearing has been set for Nov. 14
 

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I'm a pescatarian but not a vegan....even my fish intake is quite limited (1 or 2 servings/week)

read this story last week about a dumbass here in Pittsburgh

She was proud to be a vegan, and wanted her son to live like she did. But her family members said she took her food choices too far — her diet became a danger, in their eyes, something closer to an obsession than a healthy lifestyle.

“She was going to live on water and sunlight,” her sister-in-law told CBS Pittsburgh.

When the 33-year-old woman from western Pennsylvania, Elizabeth Hawk, began feeding her 11-month-old child sparse meals of only fruit and nuts, however, that was beyond the pale.

The boy developed what the sister-in-law, Brandy Hawk, described as a severe rash. He seemed to have lost control of his motor skills, she said, rendering his hands useless. Elizabeth Hawk countered allergies were the reason for his apparent malaise, not the diet.

That argument did not convince Jerry Hawk, Elizabeth’s separated husband and the father of the child. He removed his son from his estranged wife’s care, taking the boy to a Children & Youth Services agency in nearby Fayette County. From there, reported Philly.com, the agency transported the child to a hospital in West Virginia.
An attending physician said the lack of nutritious food, according to Pennsylvania’s WKBN, caused a “failure to thrive.” Malnourishment had hindered the boy’s ability to develop, and ignoring the skin condition could have led to septic shock.

It is not inevitable that a vegan-only menu would doom young children to sickness or starvation, as The Washington Post wrote in July. But a commitment to veganism can make raising a healthy child more challenging, as parents must ensure that a child ingests sufficient calories and the correct balance of nutrients. In 2001, for instance, a pair of vegetarian nutritionists published recommendations for vegan infants in the Journal of the American Dietetic Association:

“For the first 4 to 6 months, breast milk should be the sole food with soy-based infant formula as an alternative. Commercial soymilk should not be the primary beverage until after age 1 year. Breastfed vegan infants may need supplements of vitamin B-12 if maternal diet is inadequate; older infants may need zinc supplements and reliable sources of iron and vitamins D and B-12. Timing of solid food introduction is similar to that recommended for non-vegetarians. Tofu, dried beans, and meat analogs are introduced as protein sources around 7-8 months. Vegan diets can be planned to be nutritionally adequate and support growth for infants.”

The young boy now lives with his father. Brandy Hawk, the sister-in-law, told CBS Pittsburgh the child is “doing great” and has “turned completely around.”

Elizabeth Hawk faces charges of child endangerment, and was released on her own recognizance. A preliminary hearing has been set for Nov. 14

i read that story. She is just bat crazy and gives most responsible vegans a bad name.
 
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I could understand the Animal thing because as we all know how true they are treated at most of those places.

But I've seen what one Vegan I know eats ... and I just can't eat that stuff
every year when I do my BBQ's on the Holiday's she brings these Vegan Sausage which looks like Grey Penis ( if that's what it looks like )
Veggie burgers are ok, but I just can even look at those sausages ...

It might be healthy and all, but I just can't do it.

I'm all for Animal rights ... Love them more than people .. lol
But if it's how we survived all these years ... I'm going with what I need to do.

But Hey ... whatever is Right for you... Won't Judge
 

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thanks.

The first reason, animal agriculture, its disgusting the way animals are treated. Not to mention the harmful steroids and hormones they give these animals. Its also hard on the human digestive system to process meat, especially red. its just overall a healthier lifestyle.

I'm also a type 1.5 diabetic which is all the more reason for me. Trying to heal my body of the harm i caused for 30+ years. I also stopped drinking bottled water, only drink reverse osmosis out of glass containers. To each is own. I no longer count calories, only chemicals.

No need to be a vegan due to this, just buy only grass fed beef, organic chicken, etc. I buy all my meet from the farm up the street. Quality stuff with no hormones, so fresh as well.
 

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No need to be a vegan due to this, just buy only grass fed beef, organic chicken, etc. I buy all my meet from the farm up the street. Quality stuff with no hormones, so fresh as well.


thats all fine and well but red meat is terrible for you regardless.
 

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most vegans start out saying "no way i can do that" but you can. You dont need meat to survive and live a healthy lifestyle. Im not one of those vegans that condemns meat eaters, to each is own. I just urge everyone out there to at least give it a shot, i myself was doubtful. Turned out to be one of the best decisions I've ever made. Quitting soda 5-6 years a ago ranks up there as well.
 
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most vegans start out saying "no way i can do that" but you can. You dont need meat to survive and live a healthy lifestyle. Im not one of those vegans that condemns meat eaters, to each is own. I just urge everyone out there to at least give it a shot, i myself was doubtful. Turned out to be one of the best decisions I've ever made. Quitting soda 5-6 years a ago ranks up there as well.


Like I kind of said, All the power to you.
But Trust Me, NO WAY i could ever do it. ( well if I can Live on PIZZA without gaining weight ) Maybe ... LOL

I'm a weird eater to begin with and I have cut down on Red Meat. But I love Pork, Chicken and Turkey ... soooo it's a No go for me.

*** Add Pasta to the Pizza ( Only if I won't gain the weight )

I will note that I was a junk food eater about 2 years ago, and i cut almost all of that out to eat more healthy ...
Pizza now is Whole Wheat with less cheese .... Pasta is now Protein Plus, and a lot less carps
That was my Change of Life way
 

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The human body can get by under a multitude of diets. That doesn't mean that it is optimal. Veganism is a very modern idea with good reason. It's extremely difficult for the average person to follow. I believe it takes an almost obsessive personality to be able to maintain long term health and then maybe not even then. Here is the problem with the "short-term challenge" of diet change. Typically, the individual is coming off of the Standard American Diet, which is shit. Any deviation from that, which tends to be lower calorie (especially in vegan world) triggers the body to start using up it's saturated fats for energy, which is where the euphoric feelings generally come from. The proof will come a few years down the road, maybe longer if you are exceptionally gifted genetically.
 

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The standard american gambler diet consists of booze, cigs, bbq and some pale veggies that can be fried. I don' think we are going to see too many vegans here.
 

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Just ate some deer jerky, great stuff.
 

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