How far will the New Orleans Saints go?

[Dubpoet]

Saints almost won a playoff game but Eagles won. I think I remember it now. Bobby Hebert?

 

[CHOPTALK]

Most impressive offseason in football history? Really? Let's take a look at the 1974 Steelers draft and see if you can still make that assertion.
Round Pick Overall
1 21 21 Lynn Swann WR USC
2 20 46 Jack Lambert LB Kent State
4 4 82 John Stallworth WR Alabama A&M
4 22 100 Jimmy Allen DB UCLA
5 21 125 Mike Webster C Wisconsin

I don't know how you judge talent but drafting 4 Hall of Famers in one draft is pretty freaking impressive. This gets my vote for greatest offseason ever....was the final piece that set up 4 Super Bowls.

Very nice draft there.

The point is, you put words in my mouth.

All I origanally said was, Mickey Loomis is the GM of the year by a landslide!
You made my original post out to be much more than a ever said.

My origanal post was simply that Mickey Loomis is by far the GM of the year, and you blew my comment all out of proportion.

Its funny, you blame the media for misquotes and over hyping more than anyone else on the forum, but yet you take one of my comments and do the very thing that you despise the media for doing.

You said that I said that Drew Breese is the player in the NFL.

WRONG!!!!

I said Drew Breese is the best QB this season.

You said I said that Colston was the next Jerry Rice.
WRONG!!!

I said he is having the greatest rookie season of any wide reciever since RANDY MOSS, and that since he was a 7th round pick he was the biggest steal in NFL history.
Somehow you tood all that info and said that I said he was better than Jerry Rice.

Perhaps you got confused by my tagline "JERRY WHO". If you think that I meant that literally, you are not as smart as I thought you were.

You said that I said that Reggie Bush was the greatest running back since Gyle Sayers.

WRONG!!!!

As a matter of fact, I made a thread one time saying the exact opposite. The thread was titled

REGGIE BUST!!!!!
http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=325578&highlight=Reggie+bust

I was wrong about that one and admited it.

I am still not dumb enough to compare him to Gyle Sayer YET:lolBIG:

 

[CHOPTALK]

Saints almost won a playoff game but Eagles won. I think I remember it now. Bobby Hebert?

Saints beat the Rams in 2000. The greatest show on turf.

You gotta deal on your bet if you its straight up!!

Thats all that matters in the playoffs is straight up baby!!!!!

 

[HinesWard86]

Besides the Bears are the best team in 20 years part, and the fact that you misquoted me on the Jerry Rice thing, I stand 100% behind all those comments.


I said Drew Breese is the best QB in the league this season.

Can you name a better one?

The Saints had one of the best drafts in football history this year. 4 starters out of 7 picks.

BUSH ROY canidate
Ramon Harper all-rookie team till he got hurt.
Jari Evans (considered the best offensive rookie lineman in the NFL according to most NFL scouts)
Colston- ROY canidate, despite messing 3.5 games.

7th round pick (the other 7th round pick ZACH STIFE, the only reason he is not starting is because he is behind our all pro Jamal Brown in the DEPTH chart. He started one game due to a Brown injury, and Payton could not contain himself how exited he was over his play. He is also a future stud.



Signed Drew Breese, when Culpepper was the popular choice.

What am I missing here? That is the most impressive offseason in football history.
What more could he have done in 1 year.
This does not even count the fact that he made a trade last draft to move down 8 picks in the 3rd round to get another 3rd round pick next year.

The Saints have a 1st, 2nd, 2 3rds, 2 4ths, a 5th, 2 6ths, and a 7th round pick in April on top of all else hes done this year.

Colston still managed to have more TDS than Boldin, still has a chance for more yards than Bolden.

Once again I have to point out that you actually said something. This is becoming rather tedious. You said this was the best offseason in NFL history, you are wrong. Also, I never said that you said that Brees was the best QB ever, look above I said that you earlier posted that Brees was the best player in the league this year when he clearly isn't. You say that I misquote but you sir take the cake in this regard. Yes, I was wrong about your opinion on Reggie Bush but I redacted that and acknowledged my mistake.....hmmm acknowledging mistakes....that is something you haven't learned to do yet.

 

[Journeyman]

Never will we see 4 HOFers with the first 5 picks again...

I would imagine this has rarely if ever happened with in the first round even.

Simply incredible.

Round Pick Overall
1 21 21 Lynn Swann WR USC
2 20 46 Jack Lambert LB Kent State
4 4 82 John Stallworth WR Alabama A&M
4 22 100 Jimmy Allen DB UCLA
5 21 125 Mike Webster C Wisconsin

 

[CHOPTALK]

Once again I have to point out that you actually said something. This is becoming rather tedious. You said this was the best offseason in NFL history, you are wrong. Also, I never said that you said that Brees was the best QB ever, look above I said that you earlier posted that Brees was the best player in the league this year when he clearly isn't. You say that I misquote but you sir take the cake in this regard. Yes, I was wrong about your opinion on Reggie Bush but I redacted that and acknowledged my mistake.....hmmm acknowledging mistakes....that is something you haven't learned to do yet.

Im talking about my original comments.

You made the Mickey Loomis comment before I even made the follow up comment that you so Fonted up!

I did not have a list of every draft in the history of the NFL in front of me when I made that comment. Its almost impossible to come up with a definite best draft ever.

I suppose if I cared enough, and tried hard enough, I could probably find a draft even better than the one Pittsburgh had that year.

The whole point was, the Saints had one of the best offseasons in the history of football last season, and that cannot be disputed no matter how hard you try.

 

[Dubpoet]

Saints beat the Rams in 2000. The greatest show on turf.

You gotta deal on your bet if you its straight up!!

Thats all that matters in the playoffs is straight up baby!!!!!

Sorry I need 3. Line will be 4-5 anyway. I will take the ML offshore and wish you luck.

 

[Journeyman]

Im talking about my original comments.

You made the Mickey Loomis comment before I even made the follow up comment that you so Fonted up!

I did not have a list of every draft in the history of the NFL in front of me when I made that comment. Its almost impossible to come up with a definite best draft ever.

I suppose if I cared enough, and tried hard enough, I could probably find a draft even better than the one Pittsburgh had that year.

The whole point was, the Saints had one of the best offseasons in the history of football last season, and that cannot be disputed no matter how hard you try.

Chop you can't possibly get better than drafting 4 HOFers in one draft.

Has there ever been 4 HOFers with the top 5 picks in an entire draft? Let alone by one team.

 

[CHOPTALK]

, Mickey Loomis is the football equivalent of Billy Beane,

Your comment at 9:23

What am I missing here? That is the most impressive offseason in football history.

My comment at 9:32


My comment did not even exist yet when you made that first comment.

So you are commenting on one of my future quotes?uppy:

 

[CHOPTALK]

Chop you can't possibly get better than drafting 4 HOFers in one draft.

Has there ever been 4 HOFers with the top 5 picks in an entire draft? Let alone by one team.

Thats one hell of an impressive draft.

There is a chance that, that is the best draft ever, despite the fact that I think Stallworth and Swan are 2 of the most overated HOFers in NFL history. That still does not take away from the fact that they were great players regardless.


You have to also take into consideration the entire offseason.

You have to include Brees into the Saints offseason mix to.

BREESE
BUSH
COLSTON
EVANS
HARPER
FUJITA

Thats pretty impressive for one offseason.

 

[HinesWard86]

dude i posted the draft thing in response to ur comment that the saints had the greatest offseason ever, they clearly did not. no other team in nfl history has ever had more than 2 HOFers out of one draft

 

[Journeyman]

Thats one hell of an impressive draft.

There is a chance that, that is the best draft ever, despite the fact that I think Stallworth and Swan are 2 of the most overated HOFers in NFL history. That still does not take away from the fact that they were great players regardless.


You have to also take into consideration the entire offseason.

You have to include Brees into the Saints offseason mix to.

BREESE
BUSH
COLSTON
EVANS
HARPER
FUJITA

Thats pretty impressive for one offseason.

Very impressive but not anywhere near Swann Stallworth Lambert and Webster 4 all-time greats.

 

[CHOPTALK]

Chicago had a pretty decent draft in 65.

Gyle Sayers and Dick Butkus.

 

[Journeyman]

Chicago had a pretty decent draft in 65.

Gyle Sayers and Dick Butkus.

Okay that is about half of what Pittsburgh did in '74, Lambert every bit as good as Butkus, Swann , Stallworth or Webster every bit as good as Sayers was...Webster retired as the best center of alltime.

Bush and Colston could very well go down as two alltime greats, time will tell.

 

[jeckll]

Chop, you did also add the NO coach in a list with the best NFL coaches ever (Lambeau, Shula, etc?)...which is pretty rediculous...

 

[foreignlegion]

Okay that is about half of what Pittsburgh did in '74, Lambert every bit as good as Butkus, Swann , Stallworth or Webster every bit as good as Sayers was...Webster retired as the best center of alltime.

Bush and Colston could very well go down as two alltime greats, time will tell.

Journeyman..have you been smoking the good stuff once again?

Bush could go down as all time great at what? exactly...He is not a running back or a reciever..

What category is he the best at in the league right now?

Wide reciever? no!!!! running back? no!!!!

all time great what? gimmicky scat back /wide reciever/punt returner?uppy:

 

[foreignlegion]

Saints can make it to the superbowl....where they will get buried by either
sandiego or baltimore..

If by some chance, the pats, colts, are in the superbowl, then they have a chance

 

[Journeyman]

Saints can make it to the superbowl....where they will get buried by either
sandiego or baltimore..

If by some chance, the pats, colts, are in the superbowl, then they have a chance

Do you post picks or run around the board calling peple names?...if you do please direct me to your picks, thanks.

As far as Bush goes I said 'could', not would or will...quit looking for something to jump all over clown.

 

[Journeyman]

Bush could go down as all time great at what? exactly...He is not a running back or a reciever..

"Not a receiver" yet somehow has "received" 90 receptions...he's a football player....who cares how he gets his hands on the ball....anyone that doesn't think he's been a big part of New Orleans success doesn't know much about football.

'not a receiver'...whatever

 

[CHOPTALK]

I dont care what Reggie is, im just glad he plays for the Saints.