I love watching those videos :aktion033
Old video.....One of my favorites though....You hear the PUCK hit the CAGE......Great sound :aktion033
I’m somewhere between you and Sherwood’s view and the rest here. While I think they will duplicate last year’s 113 point regular season, (mostly due to playing in the weak Eastern Conference), they still lack a dominant defenseman and strength down the middle. For that reason alone they will, once again, fall short in the playoffs.
In the mean time you can’t deny the, sum of the parts, system they play under AV doesn’t produce regular season wins. Since 11/28/14 the Rangers are 56-16-5, (they opened last year going 9-8-4). With the parity of today’s NHL what other team can come close to that .727 winning percentage?
Perhaps they will be over valued in the line down the road but as of today they still aren’t. Today for example they are a -121 favorite at Ottawa. The Sens are basically a .500 team over the course of the last year. I don’t see where the Rangers are being over valued at all.
Blue Shirts win again....8 in a row :aktion033:aktion033:aktion033
What a defense....Only 30 goals allowed on the season Shush()*
I watch this one a lot.....The Captain is my favorite Ranger.
Centering pass.....Look out....Here`s a shot. :aktion033
Centering pass.....Look out....Here`s a shot. :aktion033
Agreed. I think the East is very weak as well, but I still don't think the Rangers hit 113 pts - I'll take any bets at even money if there are any takers. I think McDonagh is pretty damn good, but until AV realizes that Girardi is horrible and getting worse the Rangers D will struggle going forward.
It's cherry-picking a bit to leave out the beginning of last season and their first round playoff exit. Plenty of teams come close to that stretch though nonetheless. I'm not denying that it's impressive - what I'm saying is that it's been achieved with an epic run of unsustainably high PDO, coupled with mediocre possession metrics across the board. In conclusion - a team ripe for a fading.
Like I said in my last post I didn't think they were overvalued today either, since the Sens are horrible as well.
Hope my posts don't seem antagonistic - I'd like to think that an open-minded, healthy dialogue about these things makes everyone better.
Make it 110 points and I’ll take even money for a friendly bet. Say $50?
When I first was writing my original post I thought it might be a case of data mining as well. I didn’t include the playoffs because, as I said before, they are not built for the playoffs. They lack too much to compete with the elite of the west, or perhaps teams like Tampa Bay, Washington, even potentially the Penguins in the east.
My only point was they are beasts during the regular season and I gave a sampling of their last 77 games. Long enough to take a .727 winning percentage serious and needing a +265 price, (or there abouts), to break even against.
Clearly this team will go only as far as Henrik Lundqvist will take them. He goes down and all bets are off, (figuratively speaking). Since he is a notorious slow starter, (45-38-11 in October for his career), and he took measures in the off season to change that, I assume the Rangers should continue to be a team to bet on, not against.
Haha done for 110 points, although with a 13-2-2 head start I'm not getting my money in with the best of it.
Shouldn't they be a perfect example of a team BUILT for the playoffs? Everyone talks about their great defence and Henrik, the 2 essentials in the post-season...?
Fair enough. There's no question they've been great value for anyone who has backed them thus far. I think that less likely to be the case moving forward, but I've been wrong before!
Lundqvist obviously a beast, in great shape, and off to a super-human start this season. But he's also 33, which is probably why they got Raanta - to hopefully take more starts of Henrik's plate. Recent NHL history is not kind to any player over 30, let alone a goalie with a lot of starts under his belt.
You might not be getting in with the best of it today but I’m gambling you don’t hit your two outer on the turn/river with Lundqvist needing to stay healthy all year.
This will give us a sweat on the Ranger games this year. Book it. I need the Rangers to get 110 or more for $50 @ even money. glThey have no dominant defenseman or top line center. Derek Brassard, Derek Stephan, JT Miller, and Oscar Lindberg give them depth at center but no go to guy. Look at the list of recent past Stanley Cup champs. They all have both.
My Rangers play the HAPLESS Maple Leafs on Sunday.....Do I hear 9 in a row.Shush()*
What major change did the Rangers make from their 13-14 team that went to the finals against LA to the 15-16 team? They are pretty much the same team. Vic made a good point in that they lack solid centers, but I disagree about the defence. That's not ALL Henrik back there preventing those goals. They are also 7-1 against the West so far this year. They may NOT be good enough. And i'm not sure where I stand on them this year yet, but you nay sayers have not made a very good case yet in this thread. Advanced stats aren't the end all be all. They've beaten the Hawks, the Sharks, Arizona and St. Louis over there so far. Blues and Sharks have good size. Coyotes and Hawks have speed. They're backup netminder is just as good as last years and maybe better. About the only thing not on Henrik resume' is a ring. I think its way to early to rule this team out of winning it all. What more do they need to do? And aren't those Corsi numbers a whole lot better when you use score adjusted Corsi?
Just by looking at their game logs, they seem to be a team that start most games READY. They like to get that first goal, then a sense of confidence sets in knowing they have the lead with Henrik back there in the net. Most ALL those bad Corsi number were built with the other team playing from behind and needing to play harder to catch up. At least that's been the pattern so far.
Just by looking at their game logs, they seem to be a team that start most games READY. They like to get that first goal, then a sense of confidence sets in knowing they have the lead with Henrik back there in the net. Most ALL those bad Corsi number were built with the other team playing from behind and needing to play harder to catch up. At least that's been the pattern so far.
