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If he is betting dogs he would be losing out at pinnicle. Much better off with a square book. Also how is he gonna pay his bills waiting to get paid by pinny even if he could get an account there? No need for insults just facts.

What you think are facts are not facts.

How do you get through life thinking you know everything about everything as fact?

Silly.
 

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Ok joe pro. We should all jump through hoops to save 4 cents by getting an account through some foreign country betting at pinnicle? And do you think CG is gonna wait around for somebody to match his action at matchbook ? You are a legend in your own mind

Last person on the planet you should be arguing with about betting on sports. I had years+ of being put in my place on blankets before I realized this guy knows 10000x more about betting on sports successfully than the rest of us put together times 100000x
 

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Slow down there junior. How about working under the assumption that you dont know everything about everything?

No foreign bank account. No foreign address.

Just stop. Slow down. This is not for you. It is something that could benefit CG. Saving 5 cents a bet might not appeal to you, but it should to someone like CG.

Go take a nap and come back refreshed. You sound cranky.

Look bud you call me a loser and i am supposed to call you the gambling god ? Give it a rest yourself. Just because you do things one way does not mean it is the only way. The guys said he bets mostly dogs so he would be much better off with a square book than pinny period! Also why pay fee's when he can open accounts with vegas books for free and get paid 24/7 ? That 4 bucks juice goes away real quick and if you are saying bit coin isnt volitle you better do some research.
 

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Lol HCG's thread always gets hi-jacked. Sometimes HCG is only like the 17th or so most important person in his own thread azzkick(&^
 

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Look bud you call me a loser and i am supposed to call you the gambling god ? Give it a rest yourself. Just because you do things one way does not mean it is the only way. The guys said he bets mostly dogs so he would be much better off with a square book than pinny period! Also why pay fee's when he can open accounts with vegas books for free and get paid 24/7 ? That 4 bucks juice goes away real quick and if you are saying bit coin isnt volitle you better do some research.

I give up pal.

You have a reading comprehension problem. Go read my posts again and try to concentrate. No BTC fluctuations because you are only in BTC for a few minutes. Comprende? No Fees. Get it?

I never called you a loser. You are simply a victim of your own underestimation of your ignorance. It is fine to not know everything about everything. Dont act like you do. I happen to know something that would help CG make more money while doing the same thing - that might not appeal to you - but slow down on your arrogance of thinking you know everything and what is good for everyone else.
 

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Ok so CG is gonna open foreign bank accounts to save 4 cents? No offense but he can get reduced juice at any number of books that cater to us customers. 5dimes, heritage are just a few.

I'm not a big hardbell bettor, so I don't do a ton of line shopping when I do wager it. But if anyone is betting for a living, 4 cents is a decent chunk left on the table, over the long haul.

Someone fix my math, or just tell me to shut it if I am wrong, please.

Say someone is betting $1000 per day into -110 lines. Say that's the average over the course of 168 days (not quite as many in a full baseball season, but that's what I used).

That's $168,000 wagered on the season.

168000 * 1.1 = 184800

Now if they got on average 4 cents better on their price

168000 * 1.06 = 178,080

That's a $6720 difference right there.


Now again, please someone tell me how I am figuring that wrong. Seriously, because I'm sure I am as I don't do this for a living (not even close), and want to learn and understand all the math behind it all.

CG isn't going to listen, obviously. He'll do his own thing. But I always like the dialogue about prices and strategy, etc.
 

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Last person on the planet you should be arguing with about betting on sports. I had years+ of being put in my place on blankets before I realized this guy knows 10000x more about betting on sports successfully than the rest of us put together times 100000x

Thanks VileMush. I have plenty to learn and I do every day at these forums. Thats why I stick around. And some days I bash my head against the wall trying to impart any knowledge I might have but it seems to go over like a fart in a spacesuit - as seen here.

Oh well.
 

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Help me out where - what's the best way to do instant conversion from Bitcoin into USD into US bank acct?
 

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I'm not a big hardbell bettor, so I don't do a ton of line shopping when I do wager it. But if anyone is betting for a living, 4 cents is a decent chunk left on the table, over the long haul.

Someone fix my math, or just tell me to shut it if I am wrong, please.

Say someone is betting $1000 per day into -110 lines. Say that's the average over the course of 168 days (not quite as many in a full baseball season, but that's what I used).

That's $168,000 wagered on the season.

168000 * 1.1 = 184800

Now if they got on average 4 cents better on their price

168000 * 1.06 = 178,080

That's a $6720 difference right there.


Now again, please someone tell me how I am figuring that wrong. Seriously, because I'm sure I am as I don't do this for a living (not even close), and want to learn and understand all the math behind it all.

CG isn't going to listen, obviously. He'll do his own thing. But I always like the dialogue about prices and strategy, etc.

Jack-

Your math is not wrong, but some might debate it. Do you pay vig on the amount bet or the amount won? People have been arguing that since the beginning of online forums, and it is really just a question of semantics.

Your math shows a good example of the cost of not betting the best line and saving (in your example) 4 cents.

I think CG could average saving much more than 4 cents. But that is also debatable.

I guess Boss and possibly CG arent interested in 7k a season in their pockets (I think it is bigger than that). Maybe they arent interested in the potential other bets (reverse runlines, 5 inning bets etc) that CG might be able to exploit that he cant get in a LV sportsbook. Perhaps Boss and CG dont understand the advantage of CG having a separate account for his day to day expenses and his gambling because he doesnt see the problems that intermingling them causes him today.

But in the end - it is money just left on the table - like that coupon at Albertsons that you choose not to use because you just dont want to.
 

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Your math is not wrong, but some might debate it. Do you pay vig on the amount bet or the amount won? People have been arguing that since the beginning of online forums, and it is really just a question of semantics.

Your math shows a good example of the cost of not betting the best line and saving (in your example) 4 cents.

I think CG could average saving much more than 4 cents. But that is also debatable.

I guess Boss and possibly CG arent interested in 7k a season in their pockets (I think it is bigger than that). Maybe they arent interested in the potential other bets (reverse runlines, 5 inning bets etc) that CG might be able to exploit that he cant get in a LV sportsbook. Perhaps Boss and CG dont understand the advantage of CG having a separate account for his day to day expenses and his gambling because he doesnt see the problems that intermingling them causes him today.

But in the end - it is money just left on the table - like that coupon at Albertsons that you choose not to use because you just dont want to.


Thanks. Definitely agree there is money left on the table. You should have told him about this a year ago!! (kidding of course)


I am steadfast supporter of the "winners pay the juice" debate. I don't even think it's a matter of semantics really, except that some need that title attached to it because they can't understand it properly.
 

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I am ignorant because i think anyone in the us can get reduced lines dealing with a company that caters to us clients. Ok sure makes sense. And sure CG should take his six hundred dollar bankroll all over the world to get a 104 line instead of 105 @ 5dimes or heritage. Ok. I am not claiming to be the smartest guy here vanzack that title belongs to you
 

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Already got FT fresh tilapia for the NITWTG tonight. $1.99 a lb at my local Las Vegas albertsons. HCG loves Albertsons. Wander bread albertsons is like going to shop rite or kings at home
 

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You're trying to convince someone who's lost 70k to "save" money on better lines. Now, if you'd be talking about saving money on other lines, :coke:, your 2 pg effort might not have fallen on deaf ears.....
 

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Thanks VileMush. I have plenty to learn and I do every day at these forums. Thats why I stick around. And some days I bash my head against the wall trying to impart any knowledge I might have but it seems to go over like a fart in a spacesuit - as seen here.

Oh well.

All good man. Even if some people ignore the advice, the gems you have dropped over time have been incredibly valuable over the years. I have learned a ton about line movement/shopping for best lines/Online options and markets/ etc over the years by reading your posts. I don't always apply all of that knowledge but overall I would definitely say that you as much of anyone has aided in taking me from the typical square bettor who gets his teeth kicked in every year, to someone who has a solid understanding of what to do long term to make money betting on sports. And that's to say nothing of tailing your usually very profitable Soccer and Football picks.

I guess as was the case with me, its tough for people to accept the "Caveman looking at stars" comment b/c that makes them realize how little they know about this game. The good news is, it doesn't take too much more than implementing a few concepts, finding a few websites, and making a few fundamental changes to your line of thinking or approach and the majority of your advice can be applied very practically.

Anyway regardless of the arguments that inevitably come your way, I am profusely grateful for the information you put out there, and along with many others it hasn't gone unnoticed and has definitely been extremely helpful. Thankyou)(&
 

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You're trying to convince someone who's lost 70k to "save" money on better lines. Now, if you'd be talking about saving money on other lines, :coke:, your 2 pg effort might not have fallen on deaf ears.....

I don't do a lot of drugs (any more), outside of marijuana. But I think drugs are one market where it's beneficial to pay a little more for better quality stuff.
 

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Help me out where - what's the best way to do instant conversion from Bitcoin into USD into US bank acct?

Sorry man - I am on a plane (not a private jet lol) and the internet goes in and out - i typed out a long response that got wiped out.

Coinbase is one. Gemini is another.

Coinbase has USD accounts now which means you can store funds there in USD or BTC. Instant conversion. You wire money (online at a lot of banks) to Coinbase, and in an hour or less you have funds in your USD acct. Then you can buy BTC instantly.

Now coming out - if you have to transfer to your bank from CB - it can take a few days depending on your setup.

But lets just assume CG cleans up his act and actually wants to do this right. I know... I know... Idiocy on my part - but lets go to pretendland for a moment.

Imagine if he ran his gambling funds and his living funds (rent, tilapia, cocaine, hookers etc) separately. He pays himself 3k a month out of his gambling funds. He loses the need to transfer funds every moment of every day.

Just imagine the cost savings. He is a self made victim of poverty just like the cycle of check to check workers in America. You pay for the payday loan, you pay interest on CCs - you can never get out of the cycle.
 

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