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tags: election 2016, Trump ... Like the Germans of the late-1920s and early 1930s, the American public is angry and frustrated with a national government that seems inept and out of touch. The middle and lower classes, which have suffered for years while the elite has prospered, has embraced a political novice who has never held a political office.
Eager to reverse the policies of the Obama administration, 17 candidates — all claiming to be conservative — sought the Republican party’s presidential nomination in 2016. Ironically, the candidate who has received the most votes thus far is Donald Trump, the least conservative of the 17 candidates. A further irony is that the richest of the candidates has become the spokesman for the disaffected classes. Trump has become the front-runner because he understood the anger and frustration of the American public, especially the middle and lower classes, and promised simple solutions. Like Hitler, Trump is an effective communicator who projects strength. The media loves him because he is newsworthy. At each debate, he was the center of attention. He draws large, enthusiastic crowds wherever he goes.
Trump’s policies, which have widespread appeal, cannot possibly accomplish what he promises. A recent article by Max Boot and Benn Steil in the Weekly Standard explains that his trade policies to stop “cheating” by foreign governments would raise prices and kill jobs; deporting 11 million undocumented immigrants would take 20 years and cost over $400 billion; the 1,000 mile wall on the Mexican border will cost over $40 billion; and his foreign policies, especially his admiration for Vladimir Putin, would be even more disastrous.
Thus far, none of his insulting remarks or flawed policies has dampened the ardor of his supporters. They simply ignore these realities. Meanwhile, Sarah Palin, Chris Christie and other politicians have endorsed him, as have several evangelical leaders.
Hitler, who had never held political office, promised to revive German greatness with vague generalities and undefined policies. He became the most popular political leader in Germany. Donald Trump is not a replica of Hitler. He does not have a private army of brown-shirted thugs, but he has employed some of the same techniques that Hitler used. His promise to “Make America Great Again” with vague generalities and undefined policies has generated much popular support.
Many of the Germans did not know what kind of leader they were getting in Hitler. The frustrated Trump supporters, as gullible and naive as the Germans in Hitler’s day, do not know what kind of leader Donald Trump will be. He may prove to be a dynamic executive who solves America’s most pressing problems in an effective and legal manner. Or he may be an authoritarian who destroys our constitutional system of government.
As yet, no one really knows.

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Historian: Trump employs some of Hitler’s techniques

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tags: election 2016, Trump... Like the Germans of the late-1920s and early 1930s, the American public is angry and frustrated with a national government that seems inept and out of touch. The middle and lower classes, which have suffered for years while the elite has prospered, has embraced a political novice who has never held a political office.
Eager to reverse the policies of the Obama administration, 17 candidates — all claiming to be conservative — sought the Republican party’s presidential nomination in 2016. Ironically, the candidate who has received the most votes thus far is Donald Trump, the least conservative of the 17 candidates. A further irony is that the richest of the candidates has become the spokesman for the disaffected classes. Trump has become the front-runner because he understood the anger and frustration of the American public, especially the middle and lower classes, and promised simple solutions. Like Hitler, Trump is an effective communicator who projects strength. The media loves him because he is newsworthy. At each debate, he was the center of attention. He draws large, enthusiastic crowds wherever he goes.
Trump’s policies, which have widespread appeal, cannot possibly accomplish what he promises. A recent article by Max Boot and Benn Steil in the Weekly Standard explains that his trade policies to stop “cheating” by foreign governments would raise prices and kill jobs; deporting 11 million undocumented immigrants would take 20 years and cost over $400 billion; the 1,000 mile wall on the Mexican border will cost over $40 billion; and his foreign policies, especially his admiration for Vladimir Putin, would be even more disastrous.
Thus far, none of his insulting remarks or flawed policies has dampened the ardor of his supporters. They simply ignore these realities. Meanwhile, Sarah Palin, Chris Christie and other politicians have endorsed him, as have several evangelical leaders.
Hitler, who had never held political office, promised to revive German greatness with vague generalities and undefined policies. He became the most popular political leader in Germany. Donald Trump is not a replica of Hitler. He does not have a private army of brown-shirted thugs, but he has employed some of the same techniques that Hitler used. His promise to “Make America Great Again” with vague generalities and undefined policies has generated much popular support.
Many of the Germans did not know what kind of leader they were getting in Hitler. The frustrated Trump supporters, as gullible and naive as the Germans in Hitler’s day, do not know what kind of leader Donald Trump will be. He may prove to be a dynamic executive who solves America’s most pressing problems in an effective and legal manner. Or he may be an authoritarian who destroys our constitutional system of government.
As yet, no one really knows.

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Hitler-Trump parallels are disturbing

Larry Yaek10:04 a.m. EDT March 24, 2016

It has been interesting albeit somewhat disconcerting to watch the evolution of Donald Trump’s campaign for the presidency. He has the ability to motivate and inspire large numbers of people who will do his bidding and thwart those who might not agree with his program.
Trump’s rise to prominence in this election cycle has definite similarities to Adolph Hitler’s rise to power in Germany. As Hitler did, so Trump is playing on the fears of the general population (with Hitler, the menace of the Jews, and with Trump, the “menace” of the Muslims) and exploiting that fear for his own political gain. Walter C. Lange in his book “The mind of Adolph Hitler: the secret wartime report” concludes “It is Hitler’s ability to play upon the unconscious tendencies of the German people and to act as their spokesman that has enabled him to mobilize their energies .... In fighting for Hitler these persons are now unconsciously fighting for what appears to them to be their own psychological integrity.”
In their campaigns and rhetoric both men share the same psychological characteristics. Both command a bully pulpit and use that to mesmerize their audiences. Alan Bullock gives a brilliant psychological profile of Hitler in “Hitler: great lives observed.” Try substituting “Trump” for Hitler in these passages:
“Hitler always showed a distrust of argument and criticism. Unable to argue coolly himself, his one resort had been to shout his opponent down.”
“With Hitler, indeed, one is uncomfortably aware of never being far from the realm of the irrational.”
“But this is only half the truth about Hitler, for the baffling problem about this strange figure is to determine the degree to which he was swept along by a genuine belief in his own inspiration and the degree to which he deliberately exploited the irrational side of human nature ... “
“The link between the different sides of Hitler’s character was his extraordinary capacity for self-dramatization .... Again and again one is struck by the way in which, having once decided rationally on a course of action, Hitler would whip himself into a passion which enabled him to bear down all opposition.”
“One of Hitler’s most habitual devices was to place himself on the defensive, to accuse those who opposed or obstructed him of aggression and malice .... It was always the other side who were to blame …”
Granted, Hitler’s ascent to power was largely the result of being able to take control of the German Workers’ Party, then ascending to the chancellorship and subsequently dictatorship by pulling the wool over an inept government.
Such a scenario can never happen in a democracy such as ours with the wide distribution of powers and the checks and balances incorporated into the different branches of government. Even if Donald Trump is elected president our republic will survive. However, the ideology that he brings with him would be problematic.
Adolph Hitler promised the German people: if you follow me I will make Germany great again. And the people believed him. Donald Trump is saying if you follow me I will make America great again. We cannot afford to believe him.
LARRY YAEK
St. Clair, March 15

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[h=1]Trump’s Top Strategist Just Quit And Wrote This Brutal Open Letter To Trump Voters[/h]
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One of Donald Trump’s top campaign strategists, former communications director Stephanie Cegielski, has resigned from his campaign in protest of Trump’s ridiculous statement that “only he can solve” the bombing in Pakistan (whatever that might mean). She has penned a devastating open letter to his supporters, explaining to us why she originally supported Trump, and how his excess and dishonesty turned her against him. She issues a stark warning to Trump supporters that the supposed “authenticity” of Trump is nothing but smoke and mirrors, a soap opera character – and that at the end of the day, Donald Trump only cares about himself. A brutal denunciation of Trump as both a candidate and a person, it might be the most complete evisceration of the orange-haired rabble-rouser yet written.
It will be interesting to see if Donald Trump’s supporters will be able to dismiss this evisceration so easily. They can’t cry “liberal media” or establishment bias – this comes from inside his own camp, the people who know him better than any of his supporters. It’s also a significant indication that Trump’s own advisers are becoming increasingly tired of his racist antics and his utter refusal to formulate any kind of substantial policy proposals. They recognize that he is utterly unprepared for the presidency and has no desire to change that.
An Open Letter to Trump Voters from His Top Strategist-Turned-Defector

Even Trump’s most trusted advisors didn’t expect him to fare this well. Almost a year ago, recruited for my public relations and public policy expertise, I sat in Trump Tower being told that the goal was to get The Donald to poll in double digits and come in second in delegate count. That was it. The Trump camp would have been satisfied to see him polling at 12% and taking second place to a candidate who might hold 50%. His candidacy was a protest candidacy.
It pains me to say, but he is the presidential equivalent of Sanjaya on American Idol. President Trump would be President Sanjaya in terms of legitimacy and authority. And I am now taking full responsibility for helping create this monster — and reaching out directly to those voters who, like me, wanted Trump to be the real deal.
My support for Trump began probably like yours did. Similar to so many other Americans, I was tired of the rhetoric in Washington. Negativity and stubbornness were at an all-time high, and the presidential prospects didn’t look promising.
In 2015, I fell in love with the idea of the protest candidate who was not bought by corporations. A man who sat in a Manhattan high-rise he had built, making waves as a straight talker with a business background, full of successes and failures, who wanted America to return to greatness.
I was sold. Last summer, I signed on as the Communications Director of the Make America Great Again Super PAC. It was still early in the Trump campaign, and we hit the ground running. His biggest competitor had more than $100 million in a Super PAC. The Jeb Bush deep pockets looked to be the biggest obstacle we faced. We seemed to be up against a steep challenge, especially since a big part of the appeal of a Trump candidacy was not being influenced by PAC money.
After the first debate, I was more anxious than ever to support Trump. The exchange with Megyn Kelly was like manna from heaven for a communications director. She appeared like yet another reporter trying to kick out the guest who wasn’t invited to the party. At the time, I felt excited for the change to the debate he could bring. I began realizing the man really resonates with the masses and would bring people to the process who had never participated before.
That was inspiring to me. It wasn’t long before every day I awoke to a buzzing phone and a shaking head because Trump had said something politically incorrect the night before. I have been around politics long enough to know that the other side will pounce on any and every opportunity to smear a candidate.
But something surprising and absolutely unexpected happened. Every other candidate misestimated the anger and outrage of the “silent majority” of Americans who are not a part of the liberal elite. So with each statement came a jump in the polls. Just when I thought we were finished, The Donald gained more popularity.
I don’t think even Trump thought he would get this far. And I don’t even know that he wanted to, which is perhaps the scariest prospect of all.
He certainly was never prepared or equipped to go all the way to the White House, but his ego has now taken over the driver’s seat, and nothing else matters. The Donald does not fail. The Donald does not have any weakness. The Donald is his own biggest enemy. A devastating terrorist attack in Pakistan targeting Christians occurred on Easter Sunday, and Trump’s response was to tweet, “Another radical Islamic attack, this time in Pakistan, targeting Christian women & children. At least 67 dead, 400 injured. I alone can solve.”
Ignoring the fact that at the time Trump tweeted this (time-stamped 4:37 p.m.) the latest news reports had already placed the number differently at 70 dead, 300 injured, take a moment to appreciate the ridiculous, cartoonish, almost childish arrogance of saying that he alone can solve. Does Trump think that he is making a cameo on Wrestlemania (yes, one of his actual credits)?
This is not how foreign policy works. For anyone. Ever. Superhero powers where “I alone can solve” problems are not real. They do not exist for Batman, for Superman, for Wrestlemania and definitely not for Donald Trump.
What was once Trump’s desire to rank second place to send a message to America and to increase his power as a businessman has nightmarishly morphed into a charade that is poised to do irreparable damage to this country if we do not stop this campaign in its tracks.
I’ll say it again: Trump never intended to be the candidate. But his pride is too out of control to stop him now. You can give Trump the biggest gift possible if you are a Trump supporter: stop supporting him.
He doesn’t want the White House. He just wants to be able to say that he could have run the White House. He’s achieved that already and then some. If there is any question, take it from someone who was recruited to help the candidate succeed, and initially very much wanted him to do so.
The hard truth is: Trump only cares about Trump. And if you are one of the disaffected voters — one of the silent majority like me — who wanted a candidate who could be your voice, I want to speak directly to you as one of his biggest advocates and supporters.
He is not that voice. He is not your voice. He is only Trump’s voice. Trump is about Trump. Not one of his many wives. Not one of his many “pieces of ass.” He is, at heart, a self-preservationist.
In fact, many people are not aware of the Trump campaign’s internal slogan, but I will tell you. It is stolen from a make-believe television presidency onThe West Wing where Martin Sheen portrayed President Bartlet. The slogan on the show amongst the idealistic group of Bartlet’s staff was “Let Bartlet Be Bartlet.”
Inside the Trump camp, the slogan became “Let Trump Be Trump.”
It is a repurposed slogan that seemed spot-on for the candidate. He is an intelligent, charismatic man who is involved in every aspect of his organization and would rather speak from the cuff than read briefing notes and recite them. I, in fact, admire Trump for this. But saying this qualifies him to be president is like saying that Seth Rogan is suited to be president. Another extraordinary improvisor, not an extraordinary presidential candidate.
Trump has undoubtedly lived up to the slogan, right down to his main public-relations liaison. Rather than go for a focus-group Washington insider, his communications person had previously taken press calls for the Trump Organization and directed them to the appropriate Trump child. She joked that before joining the campaign she thought “Common Core” was a class at Equinox.
The primary problem with this? What I’ve seen the longer I’ve helped prop him up along with the millions who are helping Trump is that we got the slogan wrong. A more accurate internal slogan would read, “Let Trump Help Trump.”
I don’t dismiss any single Trump constituent, which is why I believe it’s important to let you know that the candidate does.
I, too, think our country has gone off track in its values. I, too, think that we need a dramatic change of course. But I am, in my heart, a policy wonk and a believer in coming to the table with necessary knowledge for leading the free world.
The man does not know policy, nor does he have the humility to admit what he does not know — the most frightening position of all.
I remember watching the second Trump debate and thinking, After this, he is going to have to start hammering it home on policy; the country needs substance to make an informed decision.
I wished for it six months ago and am still waiting for it today. He had an opportunity after the terror attacks in Belgium and instead he used the opportunity to talk about closing the borders and what a mess that country had become. I was appalled that he offered no condolences or words of support; he merely gave his “build a wall” stump speech and talked about his greatness.
I felt sad for him at that moment.
And now, with the latest horrifying terror attack in Pakistan, my sadness has turned into anger.
I consider myself a part of the silent majority that led to Trump’s rise, which is why I want you to know that I am with you — I wanted Trump to be real, too.
He is not.
He even says so himself. His misogyny? That’s the character.
His presidential candidacy? That’s a character, too.
The problem with characters is they are the stuff of soap operas and sitcoms and reality competitions — not political legacies.
Trump made me believe. Until I woke up. And he has no problem abusing your support the same way he cheated hard-working men and women out of millions of dollars, for which he is now being sued.
I came into this eager to support a savvy businessman who received little outside funding. I loved Trump’s outsider status. But a year has now passed since I was first approached to become part of Team Trump.
While the pundits pontificated about what type of PR stunt Trump had up his billion-dollar sleeves, I met with people who convinced me he was serious about changing the political conversation. I wanted to raise millions for him. I wanted to contribute to millions of votes.
And as part of that support, in October, I supported the internal decision to close the Super PAC in order to position him as the quintessential non-politician. I still supported him with great passion after that. The decision to close the Super PAC was part of that devotion to his message of outsider change.
But something was shifting.
Without intending to do so, I began to hear and evaluate him more critically and skeptically as a member of the voting public rather than a communications person charged with protecting his positions.
I no longer felt that he was the leader the country was looking for, and I found myself longing — aching, really — for policy substance that went beyond building a wall and making Mexico pay for it. What were once bold — although controversial — statements now seemed to be attempts to please the crowds, not direction to lead this country to a better place. I began to realize his arrogance and isolation had taken over and were now controlling his message.
And here’s what he tapped into: the unprecedented, unbelievable anger.
Because we are all angry — and we all have a right to be. But Trump is not our champion. He would stab any one of his supporters in the back if it earned him a cent more in his pocket.
Unfortunately, the more vitriolic Trump has become, the more the people responded to him. That drove him to push the boundaries further and further.
I also started seeing a trend of incompetence and deniability.
When there was a tweet that contained an error, he would blame it on an intern; when there was a photo containing a World War II Nazi Germany background, he would blame it on an intern; when he answered questions in an overtly controversial fashion, he would claim that he did not properly hear the question. He refused to take responsibility for his actions while frequently demanding apologies from others.
Imagine Trump wronged you, even in the smallest possible way. He would go to the grave denying he had ever done anything wrong to you — ever.
Trump acts as if he’s a fictional character. But like Hercules, Donald Trump isa work of fiction.
No matter how many times he repeats it, Trump would not be the “best” at being a president, being in shape, fighting terrorism, selling steaks, and whatever other “best” claim he has made in the last 15 minutes.
He would be the best at something, though. He is the best at looking out for Donald Trump — at all costs.
Don’t let our country pay that price.



 

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In fact, many people are not aware of the Trump campaign’s internal slogan, but I will tell you. It is stolen from a make-believe television presidency onThe West Wing where Martin Sheen portrayed President Bartlet. The slogan on the show amongst the idealistic group of Bartlet’s staff was “Let Bartlet Be Bartlet.”
Inside the Trump camp, the slogan became “Let Trump Be Trump.”

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Historian: Trump employs some of Hitler’s techniques

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tags: election 2016, Trump... Like the Germans of the late-1920s and early 1930s, the American public is angry and frustrated with a national government that seems inept and out of touch. The middle and lower classes, which have suffered for years while the elite has prospered, has embraced a political novice who has never held a political office.
Eager to reverse the policies of the Obama administration, 17 candidates — all claiming to be conservative — sought the Republican party’s presidential nomination in 2016. Ironically, the candidate who has received the most votes thus far is Donald Trump, the least conservative of the 17 candidates. A further irony is that the richest of the candidates has become the spokesman for the disaffected classes. Trump has become the front-runner because he understood the anger and frustration of the American public, especially the middle and lower classes, and promised simple solutions. Like Hitler, Trump is an effective communicator who projects strength. The media loves him because he is newsworthy. At each debate, he was the center of attention. He draws large, enthusiastic crowds wherever he goes.
Trump’s policies, which have widespread appeal, cannot possibly accomplish what he promises. A recent article by Max Boot and Benn Steil in the Weekly Standard explains that his trade policies to stop “cheating” by foreign governments would raise prices and kill jobs; deporting 11 million undocumented immigrants would take 20 years and cost over $400 billion; the 1,000 mile wall on the Mexican border will cost over $40 billion; and his foreign policies, especially his admiration for Vladimir Putin, would be even more disastrous.
Thus far, none of his insulting remarks or flawed policies has dampened the ardor of his supporters. They simply ignore these realities. Meanwhile, Sarah Palin, Chris Christie and other politicians have endorsed him, as have several evangelical leaders.
Hitler, who had never held political office, promised to revive German greatness with vague generalities and undefined policies. He became the most popular political leader in Germany. Donald Trump is not a replica of Hitler. He does not have a private army of brown-shirted thugs, but he has employed some of the same techniques that Hitler used. His promise to “Make America Great Again” with vague generalities and undefined policies has generated much popular support.
Many of the Germans did not know what kind of leader they were getting in Hitler. The frustrated Trump supporters, as gullible and naive as the Germans in Hitler’s day, do not know what kind of leader Donald Trump will be. He may prove to be a dynamic executive who solves America’s most pressing problems in an effective and legal manner. Or he may be an authoritarian who destroys our constitutional system of government.
As yet, no one really knows.

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Lets do a internet search for Hitler comparison, Lets do things Guessers way.


Guessers LAW.

If someone compares Hitler to someone else and it is on the internet then yes it must be true that the person in question is indeed like Hitler. And ignore for the exercise Superbeets rule that any comparison requires a minimum standard of thousands of deaths and genocide.


Here we go..................
Glenn Beck, for example, is one of many who has recently compared Trump to Hitler. But as the comedian Lewis Black has pointed out, Beck himself has long suffered from “Nazi Tourette’s Syndrome.” In 2013, Tim Molloy of The Wrap observed that among the people Beck has compared to Nazis are Barack Obama, Al Gore, and two Jews—former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and an Israeli-Jewish flight attendant on American Airlines who allegedly treated Beck as a “subhuman” by being rude during a trans-Atlantic flight. Among the “Downfall” parody videos on Youtube, there needs to be one entitled, “Hitler Reacts to News That Glenn Beck Has Compared Him to an Israeli Flight Attendant.”

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And Trump, it would appear, is not the only potential Nazi-style dictator still in the Republican race for the GOP presidential nomination. Cruz is a potential Hitler, too, Newsweek writer Alexander Nazaryan implied when he tweeted “Ted Cruz has a strong ground game in Iowa,” along with a photo of Nazi soldiers. (He later deleted the tweet.) Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz has denounced Marco Rubio for attending a fundraiser at the home of a rich donor in Dallas who owns some paintings by Hitler, along with paintings by Churchill, Eisenhower, Monet and Renoir. In a recent anti-Trump ad, rival Republican presidential candidate John Kasich implicitly likened Trump to Hitler by quoting the words of the anti-Nazi German pastor Martin Niemoller. Yet Kasich himself has been compared to Hitler by the left for anti-union measures he promoted as governor of Ohio.

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Nor are Trump, Cruz and Rubio the first Republicans to be compared to Hitler by liberals. “Barry Goldwater’s Rise is Compared to Rise of Hitler,” announced Jet magazine on July 30, 1964. While Goldwater opposed federal civil rights laws and most New Deal/Great Society programs, he was essentially a libertarian, at the other extreme from a fascist favoring a centralized state. “Every good Christian should line up and kick Jerry Falwell’s ass,” Goldwater said later of one of the leaders of the religious right. And the older Goldwater shocked many conservatives by defending gay rights.

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Like Goldwater, Richard Nixon was frequently compared to Hitler—by his Democratic rival for the presidency, George McGovern, among others. Then Ronald Reagan was Hitler for a while, and, inevitably, the funny little mustache was bestowed on President George W. Bush. His father President George Herbert Walker Bush, to judge by my perfunctory research, was seldom compared to Hitler—perhaps because he was a poor public speaker, unlike Hitler and Mussolini. Instead, during his time in office the elder Bush was smeared indirectly, by conspiracy theorists attempting to link the Bush family as a whole with the Nazi regime.

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In addition to comparing mainstream conservatives and conservative populists directly to Hitler, many progressives and libertarians smear them indirectly, by comparing their followers to Hitler’s supporters. “Why are the supporters of Candidate X so similar to the jack-booted Nazis who saluted at the Nuremberg rallies?”

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This indirect version of the Hitler smear goes back to the 1950s, when émigré Marxist intellectuals of the so-called Frankfurt School, many of them refugees from Hitler, wondered why the masses of their adopted country had not yet risen up to overthrow capitalism. Their answer was that many if not most of the blue collar workers in the country that had saved them were sinister brownshirts in the making, afflicted with “authoritarian personalities.”

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Around the same time, centrists like Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr. and Peter Viereck were appalled and puzzled by the demagogic appeal of the red-baiting Senator Joe McCarthy. They couldn’t understand why everybody in America didn’t join them in rallying behind Adlai Stevenson. For these centrists and liberals, the historian Richard Hofstadter supplied an explanation in his essay “The Paranoid Style in American Politics.” More careful historians, in Hofstadter’s time and ours, have demolished his explanation of the populist movement in terms of irrational, quasi-fascist paranoia. But the phrase “the paranoid style” is endlessly recycled by lazy journalists and editorial page columnists. And the equally dubious Frankfurt School concept of the “authoritarian personality” is likewise recycled by social scientists in every election cycle. Typically the liberal academics begin by equating regular conservatism or run-of-the-mill populism with “authoritarianism” and then predictably discover—surprise!—that “authoritarianism” thus defined is found among conservatives and populists.

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Of course both sides can play the Hitler smear game. In October 1964, Republican Representative William Miller compared President Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society reform to the Hitler regime. More recently, the conservative pundit Jonah Goldberg’s book Liberal Fascism, which equated the entire Progressive-Liberal tradition from Woodrow Wilson and Theodore Roosevelt to the present with Italian Fascism and German Nationalism, was a best-seller on the right.......................................

That Obama is the new Hitler has been a frequent theme of conservative commentators and politicians during his two terms in office. A low point came when Mike Huckabee said that as a result of the multinational Iranian nuclear deal, President Obama “will take the Israelis and march them to the door of the oven.”

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All of this bears out the “law” of the Internet age put forward by Mike Godwin, an American attorney and author, that "as an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.” But long before Godwin, the German philosopher Leo Strauss—himself a Jewish refugee from Hitler—dismissed what he called the argumentum ad Hitlerum as a cheap debating trick: “A view is not refuted by the fact that it happens to have been shared by Hitler.”

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As early as 1944, in his essay “What is Fascism?” George Orwell concluded: “It will be seen that, as used, the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless … I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley’s broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else.” The word “fascist” according to Orwell had been degraded “to the level of a swearword.”
 

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Hitler-Trump parallels are disturbing

Larry Yaek10:04 a.m. EDT March 24, 2016

It has been interesting albeit somewhat disconcerting to watch the evolution of Donald Trump’s campaign for the presidency. He has the ability to motivate and inspire large numbers of people who will do his bidding and thwart those who might not agree with his program.
Trump’s rise to prominence in this election cycle has definite similarities to Adolph Hitler’s rise to power in Germany. As Hitler did, so Trump is playing on the fears of the general population (with Hitler, the menace of the Jews, and with Trump, the “menace” of the Muslims) and exploiting that fear for his own political gain. Walter C. Lange in his book “The mind of Adolph Hitler: the secret wartime report” concludes “It is Hitler’s ability to play upon the unconscious tendencies of the German people and to act as their spokesman that has enabled him to mobilize their energies .... In fighting for Hitler these persons are now unconsciously fighting for what appears to them to be their own psychological integrity.”
In their campaigns and rhetoric both men share the same psychological characteristics. Both command a bully pulpit and use that to mesmerize their audiences. Alan Bullock gives a brilliant psychological profile of Hitler in “Hitler: great lives observed.” Try substituting “Trump” for Hitler in these passages:
“Hitler always showed a distrust of argument and criticism. Unable to argue coolly himself, his one resort had been to shout his opponent down.”
“With Hitler, indeed, one is uncomfortably aware of never being far from the realm of the irrational.”
“But this is only half the truth about Hitler, for the baffling problem about this strange figure is to determine the degree to which he was swept along by a genuine belief in his own inspiration and the degree to which he deliberately exploited the irrational side of human nature ... “
“The link between the different sides of Hitler’s character was his extraordinary capacity for self-dramatization .... Again and again one is struck by the way in which, having once decided rationally on a course of action, Hitler would whip himself into a passion which enabled him to bear down all opposition.”
“One of Hitler’s most habitual devices was to place himself on the defensive, to accuse those who opposed or obstructed him of aggression and malice .... It was always the other side who were to blame …”
Granted, Hitler’s ascent to power was largely the result of being able to take control of the German Workers’ Party, then ascending to the chancellorship and subsequently dictatorship by pulling the wool over an inept government.
Such a scenario can never happen in a democracy such as ours with the wide distribution of powers and the checks and balances incorporated into the different branches of government. Even if Donald Trump is elected president our republic will survive. However, the ideology that he brings with him would be problematic.
Adolph Hitler promised the German people: if you follow me I will make Germany great again. And the people believed him. Donald Trump is saying if you follow me I will make America great again. We cannot afford to believe him.
LARRY YAEK
St. Clair, March 15

http://www.thetimesherald.com/story/opinion/readers/2016/03/24/hitler-trump-parallels-disturbing/82179776/

Lets do a internet search for Hitler comparison, Lets do things Guessers way.


Guessers LAW.

If someone compares Hitler to someone else and it is on the internet then yes it must be true that the person in question is indeed like Hitler. And ignore for the exercise Superbeets rule that any comparison requires a minimum standard of thousands of deaths and genocide.


Here we go..................
Glenn Beck, for example, is one of many who has recently compared Trump to Hitler. But as the comedian Lewis Black has pointed out, Beck himself has long suffered from “Nazi Tourette’s Syndrome.” In 2013, Tim Molloy of The Wrap observed that among the people Beck has compared to Nazis are Barack Obama, Al Gore, and two Jews—former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and an Israeli-Jewish flight attendant on American Airlines who allegedly treated Beck as a “subhuman” by being rude during a trans-Atlantic flight. Among the “Downfall” parody videos on Youtube, there needs to be one entitled, “Hitler Reacts to News That Glenn Beck Has Compared Him to an Israeli Flight Attendant.”

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And Trump, it would appear, is not the only potential Nazi-style dictator still in the Republican race for the GOP presidential nomination. Cruz is a potential Hitler, too, Newsweek writer Alexander Nazaryan implied when he tweeted “Ted Cruz has a strong ground game in Iowa,” along with a photo of Nazi soldiers. (He later deleted the tweet.) Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz has denounced Marco Rubio for attending a fundraiser at the home of a rich donor in Dallas who owns some paintings by Hitler, along with paintings by Churchill, Eisenhower, Monet and Renoir. In a recent anti-Trump ad, rival Republican presidential candidate John Kasich implicitly likened Trump to Hitler by quoting the words of the anti-Nazi German pastor Martin Niemoller. Yet Kasich himself has been compared to Hitler by the left for anti-union measures he promoted as governor of Ohio.

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Nor are Trump, Cruz and Rubio the first Republicans to be compared to Hitler by liberals. “Barry Goldwater’s Rise is Compared to Rise of Hitler,” announced Jet magazine on July 30, 1964. While Goldwater opposed federal civil rights laws and most New Deal/Great Society programs, he was essentially a libertarian, at the other extreme from a fascist favoring a centralized state. “Every good Christian should line up and kick Jerry Falwell’s ass,” Goldwater said later of one of the leaders of the religious right. And the older Goldwater shocked many conservatives by defending gay rights.

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Like Goldwater, Richard Nixon was frequently compared to Hitler—by his Democratic rival for the presidency, George McGovern, among others. Then Ronald Reagan was Hitler for a while, and, inevitably, the funny little mustache was bestowed on President George W. Bush. His father President George Herbert Walker Bush, to judge by my perfunctory research, was seldom compared to Hitler—perhaps because he was a poor public speaker, unlike Hitler and Mussolini. Instead, during his time in office the elder Bush was smeared indirectly, by conspiracy theorists attempting to link the Bush family as a whole with the Nazi regime.

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In addition to comparing mainstream conservatives and conservative populists directly to Hitler, many progressives and libertarians smear them indirectly, by comparing their followers to Hitler’s supporters. “Why are the supporters of Candidate X so similar to the jack-booted Nazis who saluted at the Nuremberg rallies?”

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This indirect version of the Hitler smear goes back to the 1950s, when émigré Marxist intellectuals of the so-called Frankfurt School, many of them refugees from Hitler, wondered why the masses of their adopted country had not yet risen up to overthrow capitalism. Their answer was that many if not most of the blue collar workers in the country that had saved them were sinister brownshirts in the making, afflicted with “authoritarian personalities.”

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Around the same time, centrists like Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr. and Peter Viereck were appalled and puzzled by the demagogic appeal of the red-baiting Senator Joe McCarthy. They couldn’t understand why everybody in America didn’t join them in rallying behind Adlai Stevenson. For these centrists and liberals, the historian Richard Hofstadter supplied an explanation in his essay “The Paranoid Style in American Politics.” More careful historians, in Hofstadter’s time and ours, have demolished his explanation of the populist movement in terms of irrational, quasi-fascist paranoia. But the phrase “the paranoid style” is endlessly recycled by lazy journalists and editorial page columnists. And the equally dubious Frankfurt School concept of the “authoritarian personality” is likewise recycled by social scientists in every election cycle. Typically the liberal academics begin by equating regular conservatism or run-of-the-mill populism with “authoritarianism” and then predictably discover—surprise!—that “authoritarianism” thus defined is found among conservatives and populists.

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Of course both sides can play the Hitler smear game. In October 1964, Republican Representative William Miller compared President Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society reform to the Hitler regime. More recently, the conservative pundit Jonah Goldberg’s book Liberal Fascism, which equated the entire Progressive-Liberal tradition from Woodrow Wilson and Theodore Roosevelt to the present with Italian Fascism and German Nationalism, was a best-seller on the right.

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That Obama is the new Hitler has been a frequent theme of conservative commentators and politicians during his two terms in office. A low point came when Mike Huckabee said that as a result of the multinational Iranian nuclear deal, President Obama “will take the Israelis and march them to the door of the oven.”

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All of this bears out the “law” of the Internet age put forward by Mike Godwin, an American attorney and author, that "as an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.” But long before Godwin, the German philosopher Leo Strauss—himself a Jewish refugee from Hitler—dismissed what he called the argumentum ad Hitlerum as a cheap debating trick: “A view is not refuted by the fact that it happens to have been shared by Hitler.”

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As early as 1944, in his essay “What is Fascism?” George Orwell concluded: “It will be seen that, as used, the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless … I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley’s broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else.” The word “fascist” according to Orwell had been degraded “to the level of a swearword.”
 

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It's not the 1930s. But Donald Trump should scare us all the same

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‘We are stronger than Germany in the 1930s, and have the power to turn the volume of those sinister echoes down’
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Monday 28 March 2016 07.30 EDTLast modified on Monday 28 March 201613.31 EDT


People have been saying that Donald Trump’s success reminds them of the rise of Adolf Hitler. A congressman counseled voters to read up on the history of Germany in the 1930s as a warning, and Jewish leaders have even taken to op-ed pages to declare that they recognize “all too well the horrors of individuals using hate as a political platform and deploying language, implicit and explicit, that tears society apart”.
How close are we to that nightmare? The fact that enough people seem to believe in a fantasized glorious past (“make America great again”) – and that we must build walls or ban religions to regain the glory – pushes the outcome, terrifyingly, into the realm of possibility.
People aren’t wrong to point out that Trump certainly appears similar to Hitler in some ways. The rhetoric used by the Republican smacks of fascism, with healthy doses of isolationism and grandiosity. Trump’s rallies, which pen the media like livestock and brook no dissent, evoke less orderly Third Reich affairs. And his sloganeering, with its nostalgia for an idyllic past that never existed, fabricates a history that excludes the majority of actual people in actual America, with disconcerting echoes of an Aryan ideal. Even the substance of Trump’s speeches is as inscrutable as watching Hitler’s manic lectern screeching – and I actually speak English.

In further parallels, America is buffeted economically in ways that may feel, to some, like the dire straits of post-first world war Germany, although the reality is less catastrophic than wheelbarrows full of worthless bills. America is even effectively ignoring one of the greatest human rights crises of our time, refusing to admit nearly the number of Syrian refugees that our supposed stature as a global leader demands. Refusing refugees is the top of a slippery slope toward discriminating against people within our own borders. Donald Trump – and, less bombastically, Ted Cruz – has certainly advocated as much.

It’s working against what are still only similarities – becoming an even more open and tolerant society than, at our best moments, we already are – that will ensure Trump’s vision remains only a specter.
This is unlikely to be easy, as any civil rights advocate can tell you; many people do believe in a Trumpian version of America. But then, it’s not, for the most part, Trump supporters’ babies who are being shot by police, who are disproportionately incarcerated, who were force-marched on the Trail of Tears or interned while we were at war with Japan. The white working class that comprises Trump’s base may not see how their past security came on the backs of others.
But for those who look, it’s clear that many of their fellow Americans, and future Americans, suffered a recent history that is the opposite of anything you would ever want “again”. And they too are “us”. Their lives must matter, and they deserve a vision of the future that includes them fully.
There are many reasons, societal and systemic, why the American Dream seems ever-further out of reach, even for those who once took it for granted. But none of those factors will be ameliorated by Trump supporters deliberately seeking to fix the game against everyone else. Immigrants will still come here, regardless: America at its worst is still safer than the conditions creating refugee desperation globally.
So why offer our worst? Donald Trump can’t easily put his fascist, prejudiced ideas into force in America; he’d have to be elected first. Even then, with checks and balances, it would be a struggle. But a bigoted society would help turn things in his favor. Put another way: it’s not the demagogue that makes the movement, but the followers. We can choose not to do so, not to conflate fear of difference with diminishing opportunities.
I’m not arguing that America doesn’t need drastic change. Our systems are broken, and our current realities betray our founding ideals. But falling behind Trump as he pledges to lead a revolution is not the answer. Any forward-looking vision must begin by welcoming everyone to the table.
At its best, America works. We are stronger than Germany in the 1930s, and have the power to turn the volume of those sinister echoes down. But it will take effort, and vigilance.



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"Trump rallies are very similar to films I've seen of Hitler rallies in Germany, and Trump himself is using the Hitler model of Personal charisma without substance, Religious hate and fear of "the others". I'm sorry, but his rise in popularity has many parallels to Hitler's. Hopefully it's nipped in "
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It's not the 1930s. But Donald Trump should scare us all the same

Kira Goldenberg


‘We are stronger than Germany in the 1930s, and have the power to turn the volume of those sinister echoes down’
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Monday 28 March 2016 07.30 EDTLast modified on Monday 28 March 201613.31 EDT


People have been saying that Donald Trump’s success reminds them of the rise of Adolf Hitler. A congressman counseled voters to read up on the history of Germany in the 1930s as a warning, and Jewish leaders have even taken to op-ed pages to declare that they recognize “all too well the horrors of individuals using hate as a political platform and deploying language, implicit and explicit, that tears society apart”.
How close are we to that nightmare? The fact that enough people seem to believe in a fantasized glorious past (“make America great again”) – and that we must build walls or ban religions to regain the glory – pushes the outcome, terrifyingly, into the realm of possibility.
People aren’t wrong to point out that Trump certainly appears similar to Hitler in some ways. The rhetoric used by the Republican smacks of fascism, with healthy doses of isolationism and grandiosity. Trump’s rallies, which pen the media like livestock and brook no dissent, evoke less orderly Third Reich affairs. And his sloganeering, with its nostalgia for an idyllic past that never existed, fabricates a history that excludes the majority of actual people in actual America, with disconcerting echoes of an Aryan ideal. Even the substance of Trump’s speeches is as inscrutable as watching Hitler’s manic lectern screeching – and I actually speak English.

In further parallels, America is buffeted economically in ways that may feel, to some, like the dire straits of post-first world war Germany, although the reality is less catastrophic than wheelbarrows full of worthless bills. America is even effectively ignoring one of the greatest human rights crises of our time, refusing to admit nearly the number of Syrian refugees that our supposed stature as a global leader demands. Refusing refugees is the top of a slippery slope toward discriminating against people within our own borders. Donald Trump – and, less bombastically, Ted Cruz – has certainly advocated as much.

It’s working against what are still only similarities – becoming an even more open and tolerant society than, at our best moments, we already are – that will ensure Trump’s vision remains only a specter.
This is unlikely to be easy, as any civil rights advocate can tell you; many people do believe in a Trumpian version of America. But then, it’s not, for the most part, Trump supporters’ babies who are being shot by police, who are disproportionately incarcerated, who were force-marched on the Trail of Tears or interned while we were at war with Japan. The white working class that comprises Trump’s base may not see how their past security came on the backs of others.
But for those who look, it’s clear that many of their fellow Americans, and future Americans, suffered a recent history that is the opposite of anything you would ever want “again”. And they too are “us”. Their lives must matter, and they deserve a vision of the future that includes them fully.
There are many reasons, societal and systemic, why the American Dream seems ever-further out of reach, even for those who once took it for granted. But none of those factors will be ameliorated by Trump supporters deliberately seeking to fix the game against everyone else. Immigrants will still come here, regardless: America at its worst is still safer than the conditions creating refugee desperation globally.
So why offer our worst? Donald Trump can’t easily put his fascist, prejudiced ideas into force in America; he’d have to be elected first. Even then, with checks and balances, it would be a struggle. But a bigoted society would help turn things in his favor. Put another way: it’s not the demagogue that makes the movement, but the followers. We can choose not to do so, not to conflate fear of difference with diminishing opportunities.
I’m not arguing that America doesn’t need drastic change. Our systems are broken, and our current realities betray our founding ideals. But falling behind Trump as he pledges to lead a revolution is not the answer. Any forward-looking vision must begin by welcoming everyone to the table.
At its best, America works. We are stronger than Germany in the 1930s, and have the power to turn the volume of those sinister echoes down. But it will take effort, and vigilance.



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"We are living through Germany late 1920's. "


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Yep, but under a Facist like Trump, the only thing 1st about the 1st amendment is that it will be the 1st one to go. And feeble minded idiots like you won't see it coming. What he is saying is helping ISIS and all Radical Islamic Groups. But you could care less while you're jacking to him and Putin.

Trump calling a spade a spade. Trump exercising his First Amendment rights. Fortunately America is not governed by Sharia.


Sorry to disappoint you, its known as democracy, and it is how it is, take your Sharia back with you to the lands of Muhammed where it belongs.


 

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‘We are stronger than Germany in the 1930s, and have the power to turn the volume of those sinister echoes down’
@kiragoldenberg

Monday 28 March 2016 07.30 EDTLast modified on Monday 28 March 201613.31 EDT


People have been saying that Donald Trump’s success reminds them of the rise of Adolf Hitler. A congressman counseled voters to read up on the history of Germany in the 1930s as a warning, and Jewish leaders have even taken to op-ed pages to declare that they recognize “all too well the horrors of individuals using hate as a political platform and deploying language, implicit and explicit, that tears society apart”.
How close are we to that nightmare? The fact that enough people seem to believe in a fantasized glorious past (“make America great again”) – and that we must build walls or ban religions to regain the glory – pushes the outcome, terrifyingly, into the realm of possibility.
People aren’t wrong to point out that Trump certainly appears similar to Hitler in some ways. The rhetoric used by the Republican smacks of fascism, with healthy doses of isolationism and grandiosity. Trump’s rallies, which pen the media like livestock and brook no dissent, evoke less orderly Third Reich affairs. And his sloganeering, with its nostalgia for an idyllic past that never existed, fabricates a history that excludes the majority of actual people in actual America, with disconcerting echoes of an Aryan ideal. Even the substance of Trump’s speeches is as inscrutable as watching Hitler’s manic lectern screeching – and I actually speak English.

In further parallels, America is buffeted economically in ways that may feel, to some, like the dire straits of post-first world war Germany, although the reality is less catastrophic than wheelbarrows full of worthless bills. America is even effectively ignoring one of the greatest human rights crises of our time, refusing to admit nearly the number of Syrian refugees that our supposed stature as a global leader demands. Refusing refugees is the top of a slippery slope toward discriminating against people within our own borders. Donald Trump – and, less bombastically, Ted Cruz – has certainly advocated as much.

It’s working against what are still only similarities – becoming an even more open and tolerant society than, at our best moments, we already are – that will ensure Trump’s vision remains only a specter.
This is unlikely to be easy, as any civil rights advocate can tell you; many people do believe in a Trumpian version of America. But then, it’s not, for the most part, Trump supporters’ babies who are being shot by police, who are disproportionately incarcerated, who were force-marched on the Trail of Tears or interned while we were at war with Japan. The white working class that comprises Trump’s base may not see how their past security came on the backs of others.
But for those who look, it’s clear that many of their fellow Americans, and future Americans, suffered a recent history that is the opposite of anything you would ever want “again”. And they too are “us”. Their lives must matter, and they deserve a vision of the future that includes them fully.
There are many reasons, societal and systemic, why the American Dream seems ever-further out of reach, even for those who once took it for granted. But none of those factors will be ameliorated by Trump supporters deliberately seeking to fix the game against everyone else. Immigrants will still come here, regardless: America at its worst is still safer than the conditions creating refugee desperation globally.
So why offer our worst? Donald Trump can’t easily put his fascist, prejudiced ideas into force in America; he’d have to be elected first. Even then, with checks and balances, it would be a struggle. But a bigoted society would help turn things in his favor. Put another way: it’s not the demagogue that makes the movement, but the followers. We can choose not to do so, not to conflate fear of difference with diminishing opportunities.
I’m not arguing that America doesn’t need drastic change. Our systems are broken, and our current realities betray our founding ideals. But falling behind Trump as he pledges to lead a revolution is not the answer. Any forward-looking vision must begin by welcoming everyone to the table.
At its best, America works. We are stronger than Germany in the 1930s, and have the power to turn the volume of those sinister echoes down. But it will take effort, and vigilance.



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That Obama is the new Hitler has been a frequent theme of conservative commentators and politicians during his two terms in office. A low point came when Mike Huckabee said that as a result of the multinational Iranian nuclear deal, President Obama “will take the Israelis and march them to the door of the oven.”
 

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