Bringing up the Black Lives Matter movement... how there are only protests/looting/marches/riots when a very very very very very (less than 1%) of a black victim is shot by a police officer, the "movement "starts up. YET when a 9yo child is murdered in the same way, gunned down and shot a dozen times... There are no marches for justice, no protests, no threats of riots, no looting.... When I would estimate that over 90% of black murders and violence is caused by other blacks... its hush hush, yet, when the very very very rare occurrence of when a black is victimized and killed by a white person HELL HATH NO FURY FOR #BLACKLIVESMATTER!
Bringing up the Black Lives Matter movement... how there are only protests/looting/marches/riots when a very very very very very (less than 1%) of a black victim is shot by a police officer, the "movement "starts up. YET when a 9yo child is murdered in the same way, gunned down and shot a dozen times... There are no marches for justice, no protests, no threats of riots, no looting.... When I would estimate that over 90% of black murders and violence is caused by other blacks... its hush hush, yet, when the very very very rare occurrence of when a black is victimized and killed by a white person HELL HATH NO FURY FOR #BLACKLIVESMATTER!
I checked... there were no protests or marches for the 9yo child. There was a vigil tho in the spot where he was shot, and that was it.
And I looked up the stats... Blacks are 3x more likely to be the victim of a violent crime or murder by another black, then by a random person.
http://2kpcwh2r7phz1nq4jj237m22.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/NCFS-Table.jpg
First, we find that during the 2012/2013 period, blacks committed an average of 560,600 violent crimes against whites, whereas whites committed only 99,403 such crimes against blacks. This means blacks were the attackers in 84.9 percent of the violent crimes involving blacks and whites. This figure is consistent with reports from 2008, the last year DOJ released similar statistics. Perhaps not coincidentally, that was the year Mr. Obama was elected president.
Interestingly, we find that violent interracial crime involving blacks and Hispanics occurs in almost exactly the same proportions as black/white crime: Blacks are the attackers 82.5 percent of the time, while Hispanics are attackers only 17.5 percent of the time.
Some observers argue that what causes the overwhelming preponderance of black-on-white over white-on-black violence is “chance of encounter,” due to the fact that there are five times as many whites as blacks in the American population. However, there are only about 30 percent more Hispanics than blacks, yet black-on-Hispanic violence is almost as lopsided as black-on-white violence. This suggests blacks may be deliberately targeting both whites and Hispanics.
Using figures for the 2013 racial mix of the population–62.2 percent white, 17.1 percent Hispanic, 13.2 percent black–we can calculate the average likelihood of a person of each race attacking the other. A black is 27 times more likely to attack a white and 8 times more likely to attack a Hispanic than the other way around. A Hispanic is eight times more likely to attack a white than vice versa.
We can also calculate how often criminals of each group choose victims of other races. As indicated below, when whites commit violence they choose fellow whites as victims 82.4 percent of the time, and almost never attack blacks. Blacks attack whites almost as often as they attack blacks, and Hispanics attack whites more often than they attack any other group, including their own.
You don't seem to be grasping this. Nobody is disputing the numbers....we all understand what they say. That's not the question.
There are so many things different neighborhoods and communities do to try and stop the senseless killings. While I do find rev Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton to be idiots, many have this view that they only show up during white on black crime. Not true at all.
Again, just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't happening. The media just doesn't cover it. The media runs on dollars and they focus on stories that generate dollars.....a weekly neighborhood crime prevention meeting doesn't make dollars.....therefore you won't see it.
All roads lead back to the parents or lack thereof.
Let me start by saying the police officer will be tried and convicted for killing Laquan McDonald. His punishment will be decided by a jury of his peers.
Here is how the 17 year old to walking down a street with a knife in his hand and subsequently 16 bullets in his body.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/...donald-teenage-chicago-police-shooting-victim
Laquan McDonald was more than another young African-American male who had the misfortune of crossing the path of a brutal Chicago cop.
He was a 17-year-old kid who had survived some tough blows in life.
The tragic details of this young man’s life that makes this story so much worse. McDonald’s life was a long, sad, vicious cycle all the way to its violent end.
Twice, the Illinois Department of Children and Family Services removed him from his mother’s care — once when he was 2 years old and again when he was 5 — because of abuse allegations leveled at the mother’s boyfriend.
As is too often the case, McDonald was allegedly sexually molested in two different foster homes, according to a source familiar with his juvenile court record.
“DCFS never did anything in terms of following up on the sexual abuse,” the source said.
A spokesman for the Department of Children and Family Services acknowledged that McDonald was a ward of the state at the time of his death. The agency confirmed that the youth was the subject of two abuse investigations — one in 2000 and another in 2003.
McDonald was particularly close to his grandmother, Goldie Hunter, and was in her care until she died last year. His daily life seemed to unravel after her death.
Just a couple of days before McDonald’s deadly encounter with the Chicago officer, DCFS had given custody of McDonald and his sister to an uncle.
“The uncle had a live-in girlfriend, and the sister had spent the night away from home,” said the source familiar with this case. “When she came back the next morning, the girlfriend wouldn’t let her back in the house.
“DCFS came and took the sister and was trying to take Laquan. For the third time, he was made a ward of the state. It was a pretty upsetting thing.”
McDonald’s mother was trying to regain custody, but the issue was still up in the air at the time of his death.
“We were making great strides with this kid,” said a social worker, speaking only on the condition of anonymity because she isn’t authorized to speak to reporters. “We had started to turn this kid around. He had just worked a summer job and went to school every day. After the summer job ended, he went out and found another job.”
There were other signs that McDonald was getting his life on track.
“Laquan came in with one of our programs that deals with wards of the state,” said Thomas Gattuso, principal of Sullivan House, a 40-year-old alternative school that Gattusso says shouldn’t be confused with a school for troubled youth. “We give students a second chance., a chance they didn’t have. They want to come to school. They want to be here.
“What struck me the most is that Laquan came to school all the time,” Gattuso said. “He probably would have graduated within a year and a half.”
Unfortunately, all that most people have heard about McDonald is that he had PCP in his system that night he was shot and that he was carrying a knife.
So what failed? Obviously his parents failed. For as hard as it tried the Illinois Department of Children and Family Services failed. The uncle and his live-in girlfriend failed. Jason Van Dyke failed.
And last but not least no matter how hard he tried, Laquan McDonald failed.
It seems to me there is plenty of blame to spread around.
Let me start by saying the police officer will be tried and convicted for killing Laquan McDonald. His punishment will be decided by a jury of his peers.
Here is how the 17 year old to walking down a street with a knife in his hand and subsequently 16 bullets in his body.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/...donald-teenage-chicago-police-shooting-victim
Laquan McDonald was more than another young African-American male who had the misfortune of crossing the path of a brutal Chicago cop.
He was a 17-year-old kid who had survived some tough blows in life.
The tragic details of this young man’s life that makes this story so much worse. McDonald’s life was a long, sad, vicious cycle all the way to its violent end.
Twice, the Illinois Department of Children and Family Services removed him from his mother’s care — once when he was 2 years old and again when he was 5 — because of abuse allegations leveled at the mother’s boyfriend.
As is too often the case, McDonald was allegedly sexually molested in two different foster homes, according to a source familiar with his juvenile court record.
“DCFS never did anything in terms of following up on the sexual abuse,” the source said.
A spokesman for the Department of Children and Family Services acknowledged that McDonald was a ward of the state at the time of his death. The agency confirmed that the youth was the subject of two abuse investigations — one in 2000 and another in 2003.
McDonald was particularly close to his grandmother, Goldie Hunter, and was in her care until she died last year. His daily life seemed to unravel after her death.
Just a couple of days before McDonald’s deadly encounter with the Chicago officer, DCFS had given custody of McDonald and his sister to an uncle.
“The uncle had a live-in girlfriend, and the sister had spent the night away from home,” said the source familiar with this case. “When she came back the next morning, the girlfriend wouldn’t let her back in the house.
“DCFS came and took the sister and was trying to take Laquan. For the third time, he was made a ward of the state. It was a pretty upsetting thing.”
McDonald’s mother was trying to regain custody, but the issue was still up in the air at the time of his death.
“We were making great strides with this kid,” said a social worker, speaking only on the condition of anonymity because she isn’t authorized to speak to reporters. “We had started to turn this kid around. He had just worked a summer job and went to school every day. After the summer job ended, he went out and found another job.”
There were other signs that McDonald was getting his life on track.
“Laquan came in with one of our programs that deals with wards of the state,” said Thomas Gattuso, principal of Sullivan House, a 40-year-old alternative school that Gattusso says shouldn’t be confused with a school for troubled youth. “We give students a second chance., a chance they didn’t have. They want to come to school. They want to be here.
“What struck me the most is that Laquan came to school all the time,” Gattuso said. “He probably would have graduated within a year and a half.”
Unfortunately, all that most people have heard about McDonald is that he had PCP in his system that night he was shot and that he was carrying a knife.
So what failed? Obviously his parents failed. For as hard as it tried the Illinois Department of Children and Family Services failed. The uncle and his live-in girlfriend failed. Jason Van Dyke failed.
And last but not least no matter how hard he tried, Laquan McDonald failed.
It seems to me there is plenty of blame to spread around.
Wow, a moment of clarity from both you and hehateme-in the same thread, no less. Will wonders never cease? You don't have a problem with the other two cops basically backing up the shooter's totally horseshit story(he lunged at me with a knife, and I feared for my life), and the results of the autopsy report have been known about the same length of time as the video-over 400 days. Doesn't even raise any eyebrow?
It's ironic that you babble in the following quote about the kid being "obviously high on drugs," one could say the same about YOU, since you ask what idiot said that, when you obviously don't remember what you said:
YET, when someone obviously high on drugs, waving a knife and causing problems and not listening to police while walking down the middle of the road, he gets shot.
Vit destroyed your brain dead fucking arguments in posts # 22 and 24, no need to repeat, except to add that you've come to the startling conclusion that prominent groups often heavily publicize and hype things they're interested in, and often downplay those that they're not interested in-or could be hurt and/or embarrassed by(kind of like the Chicago Police force). You have what they call an outstanding grasp of the obvious, not to mention you're speculating why some things get publicized and why others don't-as if this present incident doesn't deserve the scrutiny that it is receiving. Go lick the scum off of a dead dog's dick...:hammeritSlapping-silly90))Loser!@#0kth)(&^:trx-smly0:kissingbb:tongue2::madasshol:fckmad::Countdown
The following is an example of something that's "not publicized," I never heard of it until now. And, common sense dictates that people who are entrusted with serving the public-like, for example, politicians and law enforcement-SHOULD be held to a higher standard-and, therefore, ripped more when they betray that trust. Instead of worrying about which groups publicize, or don't publicize, murders of their "own kind," why don't scum like NFL Trends worry about a disgraceful story like the following:
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...y-framed-innocent-man-for-murder?detail=email
Jury finds that cops intentionally framed innocent man for murder
By Josie Duffy
Friday Nov 20, 2015 1:02 PM PST
In 1981, DC police framed Donald Gates for rape and murder. He spent 27 years in prison. On Wednesday, a federal jury ruled that the city will have to pay up. From the Washington Post:
This is a disturbing example of how sovereign immunity can go horribly wrong. The two cops who framed a guy for murder are retired, faithfully spending their monthly pension. They still work in security, one for the Fed and one in entertainment. They purposefully put an innocent man in jail. As of now, they face no charges and are subject to no punishment.
Jurors will now decide how much Gates should receive in damages. No matter the sum, it can't make up for the fact that he lost 27 years of his life. Still, he certainly deserves a significant amount of monetary compensation. But the two cops won't have to pay a dime. Instead, the well-deserved money will come out of taxpayer's pockets.
Taxpayers paid the cops salaries. All the planning, lying, and coercion necessary to frame Gates? All on the taxpayers tab. They paid for twenty-seven years of an innocent man's incarceration. They will pay compensation for law enforcement's criminal acts. And they will continue to pay the two cops' pension every month.
Exoneration was critical, but not enough. Compensation was necessary, but not enough. There can only be true justice when the cops are held criminally and civilly liable for their crimes.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...y-framed-innocent-man-for-murder?detail=email
Jury finds that cops intentionally framed innocent man for murder
By Josie Duffy
Friday Nov 20, 2015 1:02 PM PST
In 1981, DC police framed Donald Gates for rape and murder. He spent 27 years in prison. On Wednesday, a federal jury ruled that the city will have to pay up. From the Washington Post:
Jurors found that two D.C. homicide detectives fabricated all or part of a confession purportedly made by the wrongly accused Donald E. Gates to a police informant. The detectives also withheld other evidence from Gates before he was convicted in the fatal attack on a 21-year-old Georgetown University student in Rock Creek Park, jurors found. [...]
Jurors deliberated less than seven hours before finding that Taylor, the lead detective, had violated Gates’s right to a fair trial by feeding Gates’s name and other details to the informant, and that both detectives had conspired and withheld information.
Gates is now 64. He was exonerated in 2009 after DNA evidence proved his innocence. Federal prosecutors refused to comment on whether the detectives will be held criminally liable.Jurors deliberated less than seven hours before finding that Taylor, the lead detective, had violated Gates’s right to a fair trial by feeding Gates’s name and other details to the informant, and that both detectives had conspired and withheld information.
This is a disturbing example of how sovereign immunity can go horribly wrong. The two cops who framed a guy for murder are retired, faithfully spending their monthly pension. They still work in security, one for the Fed and one in entertainment. They purposefully put an innocent man in jail. As of now, they face no charges and are subject to no punishment.
Jurors will now decide how much Gates should receive in damages. No matter the sum, it can't make up for the fact that he lost 27 years of his life. Still, he certainly deserves a significant amount of monetary compensation. But the two cops won't have to pay a dime. Instead, the well-deserved money will come out of taxpayer's pockets.
Taxpayers paid the cops salaries. All the planning, lying, and coercion necessary to frame Gates? All on the taxpayers tab. They paid for twenty-seven years of an innocent man's incarceration. They will pay compensation for law enforcement's criminal acts. And they will continue to pay the two cops' pension every month.
Exoneration was critical, but not enough. Compensation was necessary, but not enough. There can only be true justice when the cops are held criminally and civilly liable for their crimes.
Funny how you LEFT OUT the rest of what I said... which was "How is his life more important than that of a 9yo childs?"
And yet, you lie and make up a false story where you said that I said "that a crime-often a minor crime-that was committed somehow justifies the use of lethal force"
Can you show me anywhere, where I said that the police were justified in shooting him? Like your FACT states, you said I said it... but where did I say it?
I guess we will never get an answer, you will just ignore it, and throw insults, cause you GOT KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT, and the only thing you can do is babble on cause you are still woozy.
BUT if you can show me where I said LIKE YOU SAID I DID, that the police were justified in shooting him... by all means, you can have the knockout.
Once again, you show that you're a liar, stupid, or both:
"idiots who say, or imply, that a crime-often a minor crime-that was committed somehow justifies the use of lethal force."
Do you know what the word "imply" means, cocksucker? You implied it, even if you're too stupid to know it, and, I notice you carefully avoided the fact that you said "What idiot said that, and can you quote it so I can also lay into them?" when I QUOTED what you said(and we know that, because, I put what you said "in quotes," see the way that works?), so, as it turns out, YOU are the idiot who said that. The only one who got knocked the fuck out was YOU, Scumbag, by Vit in # 22 and # 24, and by your humble narrator. Are you gonna sob yourself to sleep over the poor guy framed by the police for over a quarter of century that I detailed in my last post, you steaming, fly infested sack of shit? Hmmmm, I'm guessing, "no." :hammeritSlapping-silly90))Loser!@#0kth)(&^:trx-smly0:kissingbb:tongue2::madasshol:fckmad::Countdown
There is the whole quote. I am 100% right, is that all your feeble mind can come up with is insults, lies , and whatever else you can think of to make you happy in your happy little world.
So where in that quote did I imply that its 100% ok for the cop to kill that kid and shoot him 16 times?
I will guess even Vitterd and Guesser will back me on this one... thats you are 100% completely wrong and a liar. lol
^^^^^ Some moronic retard says that someone said this, from this quote... Liar or grasping at straws? REAL QUOTE BELOW -
Where is it said or implied that someone is justifying that cop using lethal force for killing that teen and shooting him 16 times from the above quote?
If someone can find it, Ill leave the forums forever.
BUT if someone can find where it is implied that the BlackLivesMatter movement picks and chooses what it wants, and 99.999% of the time picks a black person who is a victim of a white predator to start the protests and such... then DaFinch has to leave the forums forever.
So DaFinch... IS IT A BET?
First of all-and this has been well established YEARS ago with that idiot Gas Bag-I don't make bets of any kind with people I don't know, particularly dishonest, lying, racist assholes on the internet. Secondly, whether somebody implies something is a matter of opinion, something that can't be conclusively proven one way or the other, so, yet again, you show that you're a moron-plus, you keep running away from your asking what "idiot" was asking about a knife being waved around when you said that phrase yourself. You have your panties all in a wad over some perceived conspiracy about news coverage and hype, while trying to minimize or mitigate the murder, on camera, of a kid, by the police force of a major US city with an awful record of police shootings(averaging 1 police shooting for decades, 75% of shootings unsolved, most of the dead being black, only 2 cops being charged with shooting citizens since 1968, this current one being the second)and an obvious cover-up for over 400 days. If the shooting was a gang shooting, caught on camera, with witnesses, how long would it have taken to bring down an indictment? Probably ONE day, not 400. You also carefully avoided addressing the framing of an innocent man for about 27 years by the poor, beleaguered police. All of that makes you a low life sack of shit, take your bet proposal and cram it up your ass till it comes out your nose. :hammeritSlapping-silly90))Loser!@#0kth)(&^:trx-smly0:kissingbb:tongue2::madasshol:fckmad::Countdown
If I stick my head in a lions mouth I expect to be bit - if I'm high on PCP with a knife in my hand in public I expect to be shot dead
No problem with the cop spending his life in jail either - one shot was fine - 16 shots to someone that didn't appear to be a serious threat is just another pig trying to abuse his power and show off to the other cops
No problem with the cop spending his life in jail either - one shot was fine - 16 shots to someone that didn't appear to be a serious threat is just another pig trying to abuse his power and show off to the other cops
