HE'S HIRED! Trump to name Indiana Governor Mike Pence as his running mate, according to reports

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No trade agreement is perfect and they're all going to create winners and losers but if not a TPP, then another agreement that is only slightly different would take place. It is the reality of the world we live in.

If a few billion people in the world can be trained to do what you can do in a month then you probably aren't going to be highly compensated for it. Whether the agreement is 5,500 pages long or 3 pages long.

NAFTA/globalism has become a convenient scapegoat for that this election cycle.

This is a very good post, in spite of the fact that it comes from a Pats fan.
 

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No trade agreement is perfect and they're all going to create winners and losers but if not a TPP, then another agreement that is only slightly different would take place. It is the reality of the world we live in.

If a few billion people in the world can be trained to do what you can do in a month then you probably aren't going to be highly compensated for it. Whether the agreement is 5,500 pages long or 3 pages long.

NAFTA/globalism has become a convenient scapegoat for that this election cycle.

It's basically a gigantic end run around Congress - things which he would have never been able to get through that would circumvent current laws, which is why Obama pushed it in the worst way. Another one of those multi-thousand bills written by ignorant unelected bureaucrats that, "has to passed so people can find out what's in it."
 

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It's basically a gigantic end run around Congress - things which he would have never been able to get through that would circumvent current laws, which is why Obama pushed it in the worst way. Another one of those multi-thousand bills written by ignorant unelected bureaucrats that, "has to passed so people can find out what's in it."

I am pretty sure NAFTA was fast-tracked as well, it is par for the course with these types of things. There are so many details and rules that need to be made in trade agreements that it is impossible for congress to compromise and vote on every detail, then bring this back to the other 11 countries over and over.

Having a 12 country coalition to set trade terms to offset the power of China is probably a good idea even if you think some of the proposals aren't ideal.
 

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I am pretty sure NAFTA was fast-tracked as well, it is par for the course with these types of things. There are so many details and rules that need to be made in trade agreements that it is impossible for congress to compromise and vote on every detail, then bring this back to the other 11 countries over and over.

Having a 12 country coalition to set trade terms to offset the power of China is probably a good idea even if you think some of the proposals aren't ideal.

This sounds like the same flawed reasoning behind the creation of the EU.

These trade deals are major assaults on US sovereignty. Worse, once ratified there is not much Joe Citizen can do about them.

Hard to believe but before NAFTA, the US actually had a trade surplus with Mexico. Now the trade deficit between Canada and Mexico is approaching 200 billion. Those aren't just numbers, they represent real jobs flying out the door that are never coming back.
 

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Governor Mike Pence is a lifelong Hoosier with legal, small business and policy experience. He was elected the 50th Governor of the State of Indiana in 2012 and inaugurated January 14, 2013..

Governor Pence is dedicated to continuing Indiana on a pathway to success through fiscal responsibility, economic development and educational opportunity for every Hoosier child.

Since taking office in 2013, Pence has achieved the largest state tax cut in Indiana history while also lowering the business personal property tax and corporate income tax to strengthen the state’s competitive edge in attracting new investment and good-paying jobs for Hoosiers. He has expanded school choice, increased educational opportunity for Hoosier families by signing into law the first State funding for pre-K education in Indiana, and addressed Indiana’s skills gap by making career and technical education a priority in every Indiana high school. And, because roads mean jobs here in the Crossroads of America, under his leadership the state has invested more than $800 million in new money for roads and bridges in Indiana.

The Governor has worked with the Indiana General Assembly to craft an honestly balanced budget that maintains strong reserves for the State and continues to generate a surplus. This fiscal discipline has helped Indiana maintain its AAA credit rating and earn a global reputation as a great place to do business.

Governor Pence manages a State employee workforce of approximately 28,000 and a State budget of $30.6 billion. He oversees the duties of the executive branch as the state’s chief executive officer, recommends and reviews legislation with members of the Indiana General Assembly, and also serves as the commander-in-chief of the Indiana National Guard.

Prior to being elected governor, Pence represented Indiana’s Sixth Congressional District in Congress. First elected in 2000 and earning a sixth term in 2010, Pence brought his Hoosier sensibility to the table and quickly established a record of serving his constituents and championing fiscal responsibility, smaller government and economic growth—skills and values he has brought with him to state government.

Pence’s leadership and legislative accomplishments resulted in him being elected unanimously by his colleagues to serve as House Republican Conference Chairman and Chairman of the House Republican Study Committee.
A strong supporter of the military, Pence has made a priority of reducing veteran unemployment and, while in Congress, he visited Hoosier soldiers in Iraq and/or Afghanistan every year since hostilities began.

Pence was born and raised in Columbus, Indiana, graduated from Columbus North High School, went on to graduate from Hanover College in 1981 and earned his J.D. from Indiana University School of Law in 1986.

Governor Pence and First Lady Karen Pence have been married since 1985 and currently live in the Governor’s Residence. They have three adult children, Michael, Charlotte and Audrey.



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business experience
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builds infrastructure (not welfare)
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In light of the horrible attack in Nice, France, I have postponed tomorrow's news conference concerning my Vice Presidential announcement.


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This sounds like the same flawed reasoning behind the creation of the EU.

These trade deals are major assaults on US sovereignty. Worse, once ratified there is not much Joe Citizen can do about them.

Hard to believe but before NAFTA, the US actually had a trade surplus with Mexico. Now the trade deficit between Canada and Mexico is approaching 200 billion. Those aren't just numbers, they represent real jobs flying out the door that are never coming back.

I don't see it as an assault on US sovereignty at all. From what I've read of the agreement it is the furthest US has gone when it comes to protecting intellectual property from IP theft to date.

This isn't about bureaucracy, globalism by definition is economic freedom in that it expands opportunity for all, it isn't zero-sum like it is portrayed. The freedom to trade goods and services and for countries and corporations to collaborate on innovation and solutions to country specific issues, which can later become outsourced can be very powerful if harnessed properly.

I don't think collaboration on commerce is the same as collaboration on governance, there is a big difference and they don't need to go hand and hand. Also, countries that do business together are much less likely to want to bomb one another. Something to think about.
 

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I am pleased to announce that I have chosen Governor Mike Pence as my Vice Presidential running mate. News conference tomorrow at 11:00 A.M.
 

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You would have picked Sessions?
No. I would have picked Newt. He’s the smartest man in any room he walks into.


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Rump is always calling people "losers," and he picks THIS putz? If he was stupid enough to run for Governor again, all indications are, he'd get his ass handed to him. Then there is the small that he is on Rump's dick now, whereas, not long ago, it was a different story:

[h=1]Hypocrite: Here are 5 times in the last year Mike Pence wildly disagreed with the Trump agenda[/h]
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On Thursday, multiple news organizations reported that GOP candidate Donald Trump has selected Indiana Gov. Mike Pence to be his running mate — though after the reports circulated, the Trump camp denied making the decision.
While Pence has been seen by many in the anxious Republican party as a safe pick for Trump, out of choices that included former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, and retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn. But if Trump settles on Pence, the two may have some reconciling to do. Pence has made comments in the past that directly counter positions Trump has taken on the campaign trail.
1. Pence criticized Trump for saying a federal judge with Mexican heritage shouldn’t be assigned to the Trump University lawsuit. Trump’s reasoning was that because he has made derogatory comments about Mexico and vowed to supporters that he’ll build a wall between the U.S. and Mexico and make Mexico pay for it, the judge was biased against him. Trump was roundly blasted on all sides for these remarks, including by Pence.
“I don’t think it’s ever appropriate to question the partiality of the judge based on their ethnic background,” Pence told the Indiana Star.
2. Pence also blasted Trump for saying that Muslim people should be barred from entering the United States.



Governor Mike Pence @GovPenceIN Calls to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. are offensive and unconstitutional.
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3. Trump has made himself a quasi-populist favorite by slamming global trade deals like the Trans Pacific Partnership. Pence, on the other hand, supports TPP and has urged lawmakers to sign on.
4. As with many of his positions, Trump has waffled on Planned Parenthood — a favorite target for the religious right. Trump has praised the organization for helping women, however claims to hold anti-abortion views now. Pence, on the other hand, has waged all-out war on Planned Parenthood.
5. Trump has also been wishy-washy on LGBT rights and even tweeted support for the community after the Orlando massacre at Pulse nightclub last month. Pence, on the other hand has led on legislation to bar the LGBT community from having civil rights protections afforded to other minority groups.
 

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No. I would have picked Newt. He’s the smartest man in any room he walks into.


Secret to success, leave your ego at the door and surround yourself with people who are smarter than you are.


In YOUR case, that's setting the bar about a millimeter off the ground, right?

If Salamander is so fucking smart, how come he had to resign in disgrace as Speaker and pay a $300,000 fine?:think2::pointer:Slapping-silly90))^
 

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No. I would have picked Newt. He’s the smartest man in any room he walks into.


Secret to success, leave your ego at the door and surround yourself with people who are smarter than you are.

It takes a real genius to get your cancer stricken wife to sign divorce documents when she just gets out of surgery.

It it takes a real genius to talk about family values while you fuck everything that moves while married.

Yeah, he's only the smartest guy in a room that you're in. That's it.
 

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Here are 5 times in the last year Mike Pence wildly disagreed with the Trump agenda

"Wildly. It's the only way there really is to disagree. That's why you're a fuck, fuck, fukkety fuck!" ~ DuhFinch
 

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I don't see it as an assault on US sovereignty at all. From what I've read of the agreement it is the furthest US has gone when it comes to protecting intellectual property from IP theft to date.

This isn't about bureaucracy, globalism by definition is economic freedom in that it expands opportunity for all, it isn't zero-sum like it is portrayed. The freedom to trade goods and services and for countries and corporations to collaborate on innovation and solutions to country specific issues, which can later become outsourced can be very powerful if harnessed properly.

I don't think collaboration on commerce is the same as collaboration on governance, there is a big difference and they don't need to go hand and hand. Also, countries that do business together are much less likely to want to bomb one another. Something to think about.

No, thank you.

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Six hundred US corporate advisors have negotiated and had input into the TPP, and the proposed draft text has not been made available to the public, the press or policymakers.

Of the 26 chapters of the proposed TPP draft text, it is reported that only two chapters cover trade issues, related to slashing tariffs and lifting quotas. The TPP would obligate the federal government to force US states to conform state laws to over a thousand pages of detailed stipulations and constraints unrelated to trade – from land use to intellectual property rights – authorizing the federal authorities to use all possible means to coax states to comply with TPP rules, even by imposing sanctions if they fail to do so. According to leaked documents, US standards for property rights protection would be swept away in favor of international property rights standards, as interpreted by TPP’s unelected international tribunals, giving investors principal control over public land and resources “that are not for the exclusive or predominant use and benefit of the government.”

...the unconstitutional nature of the TPP, members of Congress would likely object to many of its stipulations – naturally, the Obama administration is employing its executive muscle to restrict congressional authority by operating under “fast-track authority,” a trade provision that requires Congress to review an FTA under limited debate in an accelerated time frame subject to a yes-or-no vote so as to assure foreign partners that the FTA, once signed, will not be changed during the legislative process. No formal steps have been taken to consult Congress as the agreement continues to be negotiated, and Obama looks set to subtly ram the treaty into law.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-trans-pacific-partnership-tpp-an-oppressive-us-led-free-trade-agreement-a-corporate-power-tool-of-the-1/5329497
 

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How does NAFTA weaken sovereignty?

It's just an agreement that allows for commerce to be conducted easier. There is hardly any EU-style government mandates in it. Manufacturing jobs were going overseas before it was even signed. And whatever wealth extraction there has been over the last few decades I would chalk up to other factors.

You aren't putting 1 in the W column for the libs are you Joe?
 

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FWIW, Pence wouldn’t have been my choice but I’m not Trump so my opinion means nothing.

Wow, fast approaching 20,000 posts, and you finally got something RIGHT!:thumbsup:

Still waiting for an explanation of how Salamander could be publicly disgraced and fined if he's so brilliant...
 

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