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People here in Nor Cal have overdosed and died from taking fake norco,vicodin etc. That were actually fentanyll. I am wondering how it has become cheaper than actual pills? I have also heard they are adding it to meth to make it more addictive.
 

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People here in Nor Cal have overdosed and died from taking fake norco,vicodin etc. That were actually fentanyll. I am wondering how it has become cheaper than actual pills? I have also heard they are adding it to meth to make it more addictive.


China a Primary Source of the Fentanyl, is word that has come out of Canada anyways. Seems Plausible.
 

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Heroin laced with fentanyl is what caused a lot of overdoses in this area. Most of the people that OD'd were looking for small quantities to keep from getting dope sick...it's a sad cycle
 

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I know someone who is an H dealer. It's amazing how popular that shit is. And Meth. Fuck all that shit. He buys directly from the Kartel. His wife sometimes has to pick it up for him and they will send a girl chica so she feels more comfortable. His phone is constant with people wanting to meet. He will have 7 people waiting in a parking lot at any given time. Crazy stuff.
Oh do you? Well do everyone a favor and shoot that fuking sleazebag in the head and hang his wife from the nearest bridge by her tits
 

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Oh do you? Well do everyone a favor and shoot that fuking sleazebag in the head and hang his wife from the nearest bridge by her tits

Lol. Yeah I'm pretty sure if I did that the people buying from him would just go through someone else. Wouldn't change anything.
 

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Lol. Yeah I'm pretty sure if I did that the people buying from him would just go through someone else. Wouldn't change anything.

That is true. The market would fill the vacuum.

Still don't think I could associate with someone who was ruining lives to that degree.

Well unless I was getting a piece of the profit.
 

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That is true. The market would fill the vacuum.

Still don't think I could associate with someone who was ruining lives to that degree.

Well unless I was getting a piece of the profit.

Especially if people are dying from it. I mean, you meet them sell to them and then they die as result of that.

I still theorize that 9/11 made Americans more heartless, removed some sort of "Filter" people had, killed Compassion.

Societal PTSD.

I believe that the Trauma of 9/11 cast US into an Abyss of sorts.
 

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The fentanyl thing has em dropping like flies. Fake pills, added to other drugs etc. Can you imagine buying a few vicodins to kill your back pain and all the sudden you od?
 

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Lol. Yeah I'm pretty sure if I did that the people buying from him would just go through someone else. Wouldn't change anything.
It's not about changing something. It's about them getting what they deserve. Locking up or giving the death penalty to rapists and murderers does little to keep others from doing the same. It's about punishment and justice.

He can't get a real job that doesn't destroy peoples' lives? I'm dead serious when I say I would put a bullet in his skull, then drop his wife off handcuffed and gagged at the nearest crack house, and I would feel worse about running over a frog on the way back from doing all of it.
 

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It's not about changing something. It's about them getting what they deserve. Locking up or giving the death penalty to rapists and murderers does little to keep others from doing the same. It's about punishment and justice.

He can't get a real job that doesn't destroy peoples' lives? I'm dead serious when I say I would put a bullet in his skull, then drop his wife off handcuffed and gagged at the nearest crack house, and I would feel worse about running over a frog on the way back from doing all of it.

As a Culture...."people" or whatever term is correct to describe us as a group, like, all of us we are way way way too securely tethered like a tether-ball chained by hardened steel chain to a pole that pole in this example for us being Religion for what you say to be an even remotely acceptable consideration anytime close to now.

Not even really "religion" primarily but that need for people to project a facade that is "correct and proper. A facade that presents a caring moral righteous GOOD Human Being.

Basically Inherent, like, unavoidably there within any Physical Dimension such as this, this "3rd Dimension" we're in right now....Sham is gonna be the Main Theme. Pretense. Dishonesty.

I have found myself real impressed that they came up with a term that encompasses all of these things: "Political Correctness."

What you personally know more verily than you know or have ever known anything is that Political Correctness is quite literally exactly a Purchase of Misery. The acceptance of that, the tolerance of that. Stemming from an inability to be honest due to an unacceptability of that...

Honesty.

Exactly like what you posted up there.

Organized Religions came to be comprised mostly of Concepts Men dreamed up in their heads and wrote down in Evangelical Terminology, Large among that stuff the Idea that No Man or Woman is beyond redemption.

The Truth you post up there will not even get close to being acceptable to Express within our lifetimes.
 

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The 2 major regions where opiate overdoses are middle america and the south. These are the 2 regions of country that have virtually zero states that allow medical marijuana.

Our military guarded the poppy fields for years in Afghanistan so the opium trade could continue to flourish. Now private contractors handle the task.

I am surprised that law enforcement hasn't come down harder on heroin and pills. The majority of people dying from overdosing on them are white. Guess big pharmacy dollars trump skin color.
 

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I have never seen heroin and don't have any friends that have ever used it - but it's all u heare about on the news - I don't see how turning urself into a zombie could be entertaining
 

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The 2 major regions where opiate overdoses are middle america and the south. These are the 2 regions of country that have virtually zero states that allow medical marijuana.

1.) Our military guarded the poppy fields for years in Afghanistan so the opium trade could continue to flourish. Now private contractors handle the task.

2.)I am surprised that law enforcement hasn't come down harder on heroin and pills. The majority of people dying from overdosing on them are white. Guess big pharmacy dollars trump skin color.

Exactly why....#1 up there ^^^^^, IMO Mainstream Media neglects reporting on the harm getting caused, the lives getting destroyed cuz people now have at their fingertips info which makes those who care enough to do so able to "Connect The Dots".

#2 up there, as you well realize Big Big $$$$ is getting made...."Freeway" Ricky Ross I think was his name...in LA....so long ago now....suitable entrance to that rabbit hole, Mena Arkansas of course too.....a passageway to why we have this scourge...

....those 2 things examples of similar "climates"....operations that exist now.....like, a ****snapshot*** of the concept...

.....difficult part to unravel is why Fentanyl Cut? Thats insane, Exterminates their Customer Base, impacts so much upon The Business Enterprise.

Feels like some one's Duterte-Like (Phillipines) Genocide-ing here.....with this. But not totally cuz if so couldn't they just poison a few massive shipments of Product and accomplish their goal much more rapidly?


I have no clue what The Cutting with Fentanyl is about at all, completely puzzles me. Like you or another said....on the Meth it might make it more addictive....But with Heroin?

*confused*
 

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It's not about changing something. It's about them getting what they deserve. Locking up or giving the death penalty to rapists and murderers does little to keep others from doing the same. It's about punishment and justice.

He can't get a real job that doesn't destroy peoples' lives? I'm dead serious when I say I would put a bullet in his skull, then drop his wife off handcuffed and gagged at the nearest crack house, and I would feel worse about running over a frog on the way back from doing all of it.

Yeah, hmm. As far as getting a real job, many dealers have an arrest record with felonies from drugs, parafanalia, whatever. So it's not like they can go make 10k month somewhere else. I'm not saying you're wrong, just telling the other side. Our govt brings the drugs here so realistically they are the problem imo. Everyone else is just doing what they do to survive. It's not like the dude has a poppy seed farm outback and manafafturing H.
 

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I have never seen heroin and don't have any friends that have ever used it - but it's all u heare about on the news - I don't see how turning urself into a zombie could be entertaining

Lots of H addicts smoke it. It's a lot different from what you see in the movies with a needle in the arm although that does happen obviously. Like someone mentioned a lot of people get addicted to Hydrocodones (same shit) and they get harder to get with regulations not to mention can get expensive once your tolerance increases and you need more. H is much cheaper and gets them by. Don't get me wrong I think H is a nasty drug. It stinks like shit and its messy and highly addictive. And from what I've seen once people do it for a while they can't stop.
 

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There has been plenty of H on the westside for a long time. I have a group of friends that moved to h from blow and they dropped one by one. A whole group of em dead. A few got straight but not much longevity in that drug. Most of it was mexican tar and one friend died on the operating tables because an absess in his leg went inward.
The mixing fentayl in other drugs or saying a pill is vicodin when it is fentanyl is just scary. Many more will die.
 

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Yeah, hmm. As far as getting a real job, many dealers have an arrest record with felonies from drugs, parafanalia, whatever. So it's not like they can go make 10k month somewhere else. I'm not saying you're wrong, just telling the other side. Our govt brings the drugs here so realistically they are the problem imo. Everyone else is just doing what they do to survive. It's not like the dude has a poppy seed farm outback and manafafturing H.

Apparently someone has already connected the dots. I suppose the Fentanyl could be getting used as Cut cuz it "strengthens" the H? Possibly just Dealers messing up The Mix? Screwing up The Ratio?

They Cut The H more massively than they otherwise could have then make up for that by tossing some Fentanyl into the mix?

Just "Spitballin' here, trying to understand this...




What a Genuine Plague of a fukkin time we live in though. Humans never had the problems that we have. Ever.
 

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I just found out an old friend of mine just overdosed on heroin. 32 years old.. we were best friends for years, than We had a falling out and kind of just went our seperate ways. But A falling out doesn't erase a decade of great memories and fun times we had together. I'm so glad I stopped hangin out with that crowd. I'm not looking for condolences from anybody , just trying to start a discussion... it's truely is a fucking epidemic out here in jersey. It's over 3 times The national rate.. the suburbs are worse than the city's. I personally know 5 people that overdosed and died from it this year. Is it an epidemic like this everywhere else or is it more of an east coast thing ? Any of you guys lose any friends / family to it? Lord knows I've done my fair share of partying.. I'll drink and smoke weed till my hearts content but I never once picked up that shit and tried it and I damn sure never will.




up here in my area of pennyslvania has been considered the worst in the state,.....people don't realize that its all garbage that is in this herion and they also don't really care......i know its cold,but i have no sympathy for these people lame enough to do this drug let alone any drug
 

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If you go to an AA meeting nowadays as an alcoholic, you are in the minority. It's almost like they don't even make plain old drunks anymore. Full of 20-something heroin addicts; almost exclusively middle-class white kids. It's sad.



i don't know how it is there,but here you go into an AA MEETING and its strictly alcohol issues,..talk about drugs is not tolerated
 

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Lol. Yeah I'm pretty sure if I did that the people buying from him would just go through someone else. Wouldn't change anything.


its not a laughing matter,you should at least turn him in to the police and get him off the street,...im sure if your kids were involved with this dealer you would do something about it,well how about saving someone elses kid
 

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