Heisman Winner!

[Co-Captain]

Chuck, I totally agree. In fact I think that the Pitt QB was the one to get all the Heisman publicity before the season. Anyway, Carson Palmer was projected to win last year, but when was he predicted to win. I think it was a week maybe before he won it. If Jason White is so the favorite, why is it that Carib has installed him now as a +135 and Fitzgerald at E. Jason was at -300 as late as tues or weds of this week . This seems to be alittle strange. Maybe, I dont want to sound to suspicious, but maybe people are getting suckered in to betting on Jason White because all along he was the favorite to win it. But after his bad game , now the voters has changed their position . And since it is to late to change the odds as it would be telling to much, the books are just going to leave it as that, and take their chances. Still though at the same time , pump some investments into to advertising or rumor spreading , to make sure people bet on white, cause that is where they will make the biggest profit. I think they know he's not going to win it. That is the only way , I can figure out why the drop in the line for White at Carib. What does everyone think about this scenerio. Thoughts?

 

[sandmanfromlv]

no odds on the great Timmy Chang?

 

[Co-Captain]

sorry sandmanfromlv, you'll just have to bite down and wait till next year. I'm sure there will be a line on Timmy Chang for you to bet on. For now just have to sit tite, but since you have nothing but sit and wait till then. Would you like to share your opinion on this years Heisman Throphy winner. Hey I know you only had an opinion on Timmy , but who is your second choice. Please share.

 

[SunDevil]

+135

From Carib:

Odds To Win The 2003 Heisman Trophy (All Bets Action) 08:00 pm

Jason White (OKL)(c) -170
Larry Fitzgerald (PITT)(c) +140
Field (All Other Players)(c) +350

 

[Pretending]

Money talks and there is more liquidity at Sportsbook.com so we have a good idea as to what the $ are saying. Every one of these plays is a poor bet, unless you're the kind of player who wants that .10 for a 1-9 shot to show in horses.

Chris Perry (Michigan) 25-1
Eli Manning (Mississippi) 6-1
Jason White (Oklahoma) 1-6
Larry Fitzgerald (Pitt) 3-1

 

[Pretending]

If you want, take Manning to finish 2nd...another poor play option.

2nd - Manning Finishes 3-1
3rd - Manning Finishes 2-7
4th - Manning Finishes 5-1
5th - Manning Finishes 6-1
Manning Wins Heisman 6-1

 

[ChuckSims]

CC, Carib does not have White at +135. That must of been an old line. Eli will finish 3rd. White should win based on early returns. Some voters have made it public who they voted for.

 

[TheGeneral+]

Decision nears for Heisman hopefuls
New York, NY (Sports Network) - Oklahoma quarterback Jason White, Pittsburgh wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald, Ole Miss quarterback Eli Manning, and running back Chris Perry of Michigan are the four finalists in the running for Heisman Trophy, which will be presented Saturday night at the Yale Club in New York.

White completed 265-of-414 passes for 3,744 yards with 40 touchdowns and just eight interceptions, leading the nation in passing efficiency and taking the third-ranked Sooners to a 12-1 record.

Fitzgerald, only a sophomore, caught 87 balls for 1,595 yards and 22 touchdowns for the Panthers (8-4). He had at least one touchdown reception in all 12 games this year to tie Randy Moss' single-season record, and in a record-setting 18 straight games dating back to last season.

No sophomore has ever captured the Heisman. Two years ago, Florida's Rex Grossman finished second in the balloting.

Manning, winner of the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award for the best senior passer in the nation, threw for 3,341 yards and 27 touchdowns for 16th-ranked Ole Miss.

Manning hopes to break the family streak of falling short in the balloting, as father, Archie, and brother, Peyton were unsuccessful in their bids to bring home the prize. Archie finished third in 1970 behind Joe Theismann and winner Jim Plunkett. Peyton was the runner-up in 1997 behind Charles Woodson, and finished in the top-10 in the balloting two other times.

Perry was fourth in the nation with 1,589 yards on the ground and also caught 42 passes, accounting for 19 touchdowns.

He capped a stellar season with a 204-yard, two-score performance in a 35-21 win over rival Ohio State, earning the fourth-ranked Wolverines a date in the Rose Bowl.

Southern California quarterback Carson Palmer won the award last year.

http://sportsnetwork.com

 

[SunDevil]

More votes accounted for, projected margin down to 2.9%...

C'MON LARRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.heismanprojection.com/

 

[h_upmann]

Could someone have mistaken 1.35 (decimal) for +135 here?

 

[GrandSlam+]

Heismanprojection.com was dead on. They said White would win by 140 votes; he won by 128. Damn good job on their part.

 

[ChuckSims]

Impressive.

 

[JustinCruise]

Well guys I have a strong feeling this years Heisman winner will be Eli Manning. Here are my simple reasons why. Disagree if you must. Agree if you like. Either way, I am taking the odds on him to win.

Reason why I rule out the other two favorites above Eli.

#1 Jason White- He probably would have won it and is actually was still the favorite at Carib sports, but has now been listed as +135. That is a big drop from Tuesday, when he was still listed as a -400 favorite. He won't win it because he lost the Big 12 Championship Game. He had two int. and did not throw a TD pass. He was exposed to the put, and this wont set in good with the voters.

#2 Larry Fitzgerald- He was listed to be second, but now is listed as the favorite at Even. I think he wont win it because one he did not make an impact in the Miami game, which could have given Pitt a share of the Big East Title, something that they never have been. That game will hurt his chances. Secondly, I think he wont win the Heisman because he is just a Sophmore. I remember, when Rex Grossman was clearly a favorite to win the Heisman, but it was noted that because he is a Sophmore voters may not be so willing to vote on someone coming back for two more years. I guess, they want you to be a Junior or Senior.

#3 Eli Manning

A. He has led Miss back to the National spotlight and brought back a winning tradition to Ole Miss, and almost guided Miss to the SEC Championship.
B. He just won that other award that recognizes the best college athlete in the Nation. Dam its name is eluding me at this time.
C. He passed for over 3,300 yards this year, had 27 TD's, w/ only 9 ints.
D. He is a Senior and is projected by many to be the first player taken in the draft.
E. He comes from a great tradition of QB's. Following his father Archie and his brother Payton Manning.
F. His father has a vote and I think it'll be for Eli.
G. He succeeded at QB, although playing under the pressure of living up to his father and brothers accomplishments.
H. He is a scholar athlete and great role model.
I. He set 45 records as QB at Miss. Breaking even some of his fathers records.
J. He is a wholesome young man and comes from a family who has been nothing but great representatives of this sport. Who better to bestow this award onto then him.

- I am sure I missed some, but I am drained right now. So add in to this thread if you desire to. I wont mind ,and would love the input.

Currently , he listed with the rest of the field at +350 . I like it , should have locked it in alot sooner , but I will take this dog.

Let me hear what you think . Aloha, CC.

Let's see if he can look like a two time superbowl champ tonight