Has everyone started to realize we’ve wildly overreacted to this situation?

[festeringZit]

How he judged it is just that - a prejudgment - this was coming here no matter what - only things he could have done is ban all flights from China in December and all European flights in January - I live in downtown Miami in a condo - we have several people with corona in the building now - CDC and Florida Department of Law tracked the cases to people that came from NY recently and did not self quarantine for 14 days which DeSantis mandated - people were bringing it to us - there is no great answer outside of a sure treatment or vaccine - all be we can do is try to balance between lockdown and keeping the economy afloat - the only ones that have it all figured out are the far left - their solution - everything is Trump's fault

I don't think Trump did anything unreasonable. Though, I think he was a bit too assured for a while that the thing was going to blow over after a few weeks. But even the Director
of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Dr. Anthony Fauci was saying as of late February that: the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%). So how can Trump ultimately be blamed when that was the narrative from experts at
that time? Hindsight is always 20/20. He was hopeful that this thing wasn't going to be as bad as it is... Maybe he could have been more circumspect? No matter
what he did, the left was going to excoriate him.

 

[PatsFan1283]

I'm sure both party handlers realized it was going to be a big deal at about the same time. And the Dems pushed it hard knowing that there was political headway to be gained from it considering how far behind we already were.

So then the Republican's guarded the wrong foxhole and pushed narrative it wasn't a big deal, their media handlers pushed it and then their sycophantic followers ate it up. We had people on this board saying it'll blow over in a month based on this commentary.

The correct play would've been to say yes, it is a big deal and deal with it. As well as properly label China/WHO the cause of this mess.


Another issue, is you gotta really go back in time. Biden beat Bernie on Super Tuesday, he can barely string more than 1-2 sentences together without fucking up, things are going relatively well domestically, the Ukraine thing is over....We're talking smooth sailing here. To then have to do a 180 pivot to a crisis from that is very difficult. You could almost reduce it to "Ohh shit, do we have to? Lets let a few more days go by and see..."


And lastly, I don't think it really would've mattered too much who is President in modern times because Americans a pretty dumb lot. You're not gonna be able to articulate the severity of this to them when there is like 34 deaths in the country. And we have plenty of evidence of that over the last month.

 

[bodyforlife]

That is called a guess, dart throw. I was wrong. I will be closer than the so called experts who said 2.2 million or 1 million.

Yep, it certainly appears you will be. Not to mention you're quoting a person that is considered the foremost authority by the media on this virus. Most of my Liberal friends have told me I just need to listen to Fauci if I want to get accurate information. Ok, so I am. And straight from the horse's mouth, he claims a fatality rate of considerably less than 1% and more akin to .1%. He has predicted 100k to 200k deaths (so now it looks like 2x to 4x that of the flu). Again, this is the foremost expert on the subject. It certainly doesn't look like 1-2.2 million, and it sure as hell doesn't look like 14 million plus (that's what the people in the "exponential" camp were quoting that now look like they should be wearing tin foil hats).

And throughout this and many other posts on this board and all over the internet, we have people implying that this virus is a death warrant. And yet, the CDC has continuously said most people have mild illness and are able to recover at home without medical care.

And of course, we have the regular cast of idiots who think they have to post death counts and contracted cases on a day-to-day basis as though they're impressing someone (anyone can easily find this information if they choose). They never mention that we have 320 million people that live in the United States and 7.7 billion in the world, which typically makes their numbers pale by comparison (especially when you put it into a percentage). But I guess they think they're impressing people (much like the deceitful media) when they shout to the world that we had 30,000 cases (wow because less than .01% of the population is just so impressive).

Vito knew he wasn't gonna be run out of here - so, like his amigos, he set up a shit load of ghosts - who really know how many different names these guys go by

Yeah, admittedly it's more than just him. I never understood the need for it, but I guess these people wear out their welcome and somehow think if they change their names, no one is going to know it's them. For most, it's pretty easy to figure out (once an idiot, always an idiot).

 

[StevieRay]

Yep, it certainly appears you will be. Not to mention you're quoting a person that is considered the foremost authority by the media on this virus. Most of my Liberal friends have told me I just need to listen to Fauci if I want to get accurate information. Ok, so I am. And straight from the horse's mouth, he claims a fatality rate of considerably less than 1% and more akin to .1%. He has predicted 100k to 200k deaths (so now it looks like 2x to 4x that of the flu). Again, this is the foremost expert on the subject. It certainly doesn't look like 1-2.2 million, and it sure as hell doesn't look like 14 million plus (that's what the people in the "exponential" camp were quoting that now look like they should be wearing tin foil hats).

And throughout this and many other posts on this board and all over the internet, we have people implying that this virus is a death warrant. And yet, the CDC has continuously said most people have mild illness and are able to recover at home without medical care.

And of course, we have the regular cast of idiots who think they have to post death counts and contracted cases on a day-to-day basis as though they're impressing someone (anyone can easily find this information if they choose). They never mention that we have 320 million people that live in the United States and 7.7 billion in the world, which typically makes their numbers pale by comparison (especially when you put it into a percentage). But I guess they think they're impressing people (much like the deceitful media) when they shout to the world that we had 30,000 cases (wow because less than .01% of the population is just so impressive).



Yeah, admittedly it's more than just him. I never understood the need for it, but I guess these people wear out their welcome and somehow think if they change their names, no one is going to know it's them. For most, it's pretty easy to figure out (once an idiot, always an idiot).

Are these numbers true?

 

[DogDaze]

I think most in the “exponential” camp realized that the curve was only exponential in the beginning and then it moved to linear.

 

[bodyforlife]

Are these numbers true?

Naysayers don't like equivalency arguments. And of course, they'll no longer use Fauci's estimate as that doesn't work with their narrative. At this time, they'll simply point to the fact that there is no vaccine (yes, I will give them that). And when there is one, as a matter of public policy, the people in the Ivory tower will say, it looks like we're going to have "x" amount of deaths now. Do you guys think that's acceptable? Sounds good to me Joe, let's go play golf. And those policies are put in place whenever we have an infectious diseases (it's done with the Flu, Aids, etc.). It's always about "what's the acceptable amount of deaths" we think is reasonable. Hell, no one talks about Aids anymore. And yet, look at the number you just posted....411,000. No one is freaking out by that.

 

[exploited17]

Just a couple years ago. Not sure numbers last year. Quite the number. 80,000 in the US alone
https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/

 

[bodyforlife]

Just got this email from Walmart. Would love to see their revenue numbers with this implemented.

 

[exploited17]

Just got this email from Walmart. Would love to see their revenue numbers with this implemented.

Im sure they will practice social distancing while waiting in lines outside that stretch for miles with a minimum 6 feet between people
Waiting in long lines for food and supplies. Bernie would be proud

 

[Doug]

I was at my local Walmart Thursday, they were doing the count thing, but it was very early, like 8 am, then you have a shot of getting merchandise early

the store in Old Saybrook, CT is one of the smallest Walmart stores in existence at about 80,000 sf, nearly 2 acres, a superstore is more like 250,000 sf or 6 acres

even at 80k sf

at 80k sf, that still allows 400 customers at a time in a tiny store, or like 1,000 shoppers in a superstore.

Walmart is very well run once you get beyond store manager level, I'm a former employee

they know what they are doing

 

[bodyforlife]

I was at my local Walmart Thursday, they were doing the count thing, but it was very early, like 8 am, then you have a shot of getting merchandise early

the store in Old Saybrook, CT is one of the smallest Walmart stores in existence at about 80,000 sf, nearly 2 acres, a superstore is more like 250,000 sf or 6 acres

even at 80k sf

at 80k sf, that still allows 400 customers at a time in a tiny store, or like 1,000 shoppers in a superstore.

Walmart is very well run once you get beyond store manager level, I'm a former employee

they know what they are doing

Like I said, would love to see their revenue numbers once this is fully implemented. I think their standard average is like 20k to 25k customers a day.

 

[StevieRay]

I was at my local Walmart Thursday, they were doing the count thing, but it was very early, like 8 am, then you have a shot of getting merchandise early

the store in Old Saybrook, CT is one of the smallest Walmart stores in existence at about 80,000 sf, nearly 2 acres, a superstore is more like 250,000 sf or 6 acres

even at 80k sf

at 80k sf, that still allows 400 customers at a time in a tiny store, or like 1,000 shoppers in a superstore.

Walmart is very well run once you get beyond store manager level, I'm a former employee

they know what they are doing

opposite that I’ve seen. At 6:30 they are lined up waiting for store to open at 7:00

 

[slapshot]

Naysayers don't like equivalency arguments. And of course, they'll no longer use Fauci's estimate as that doesn't work with their narrative. At this time, they'll simply point to the fact that there is no vaccine (yes, I will give them that). And when there is one, as a matter of public policy, the people in the Ivory tower will say, it looks like we're going to have "x" amount of deaths now. Do you guys think that's acceptable? Sounds good to me Joe, let's go play golf. And those policies are put in place whenever we have an infectious diseases (it's done with the Flu, Aids, etc.). It's always about "what's the acceptable amount of deaths" we think is reasonable. Hell, no one talks about Aids anymore. And yet, look at the number you just posted....411,000. No one is freaking out by that.

crazy

 

[Doug]

Like I said, would love to see their revenue numbers once this is fully implemented. I think their standard average is like 20k to 25k customers a day.

that sounds realistic enough for a superstore

they have to operate as they see fit and maintain an image of protecting both customers and employees

I don't believe there is any governmental mandate about how many people per SF are acceptable, I believe it is a corporate call.

they are about as essential as it gets

 

[Doug]

opposite that I’ve seen. At 6:30 they are lined up waiting for store to open at 7:00

where did I say the store might not be busy at 7 am

in normal times it is dead then, but this ain't normal times....

 

[rolltide]

Are these numbers true?

it is interesting I have not seen ONE report showing how the Chinese Virus has impacted crime. I have to assume that DUI's are almost non-existent, traffic fatalities a thing of the past, and abortions slowing to a crawl

 

[Doug]

Like I said, would love to see their revenue numbers once this is fully implemented. I think their standard average is like 20k to 25k customers a day.

they will weather the storm as well as any other company

there is always

www.walmart.com

they have 100x more stuff than a 6 acre superstore and often ship for free with a $35 minimum order, and it is very fast

very well run company

not an elite , high quality store, customer service is poor, just find it yourself, and save.....they be watching you with their eye in the sky, casino style, don't steal from them

their stock is near an all-time high, now

Americans love cheap Chinese throwaway stuff, you almost certainly are wearing something made in China right now

socks, T-shirt, sneakers, underwear, something

your computer was most likely made in China, too !

 

[mango]

Funny how Trumptards wouldn't let Benghazi go for years (4 dead) yet say 66k deaths from Coronavirus is nothing.

 

[Knightrofins]

We lost over 75k mothers in the past 3 months due to child birth? I’m calling BS here

 

[StevieRay]

Funny how Trumptards wouldn't let Benghazi go for years (4 dead) yet say 66k deaths from Coronavirus is nothing.

Can’t compare the two scenarios I wouldn’t think