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I still haven't tallied up the recap yet, but I probably should since I'm now two weeks behind. Looking at my week 14 numbers is probably safer anyway... but I made a pretty good time of futures betting, as an Orlando win over New Orleans is something very possible and will give us either a relative push for New Orleans and Orlando futures combined or win Orlando's over and push New Orleans'. Before I play anything, can someone post the Pinny openers from yesterday here?

Here's the scoop on this week...

Colorado/New York is an absolute crap shoot. Colorado needs to win, but not at any expense. The fact that they will be hosting a quarterfinal is probably enough motivation, but the difference between 1 and 2 in the American Conference I don't believe is important. What matters is which team plays San Jose and which gets either Chicago or Vegas... and since we don't know that yet...

LA needs to win, but again, not at a huge price in the American Conference since I think whomever plays San Jose (if they get in) is gonna get beat, ESPECIALLY if it's LA... it's real hard beating the same team 3 times in the same season, especially when it's the defending champs you're going after. Grand Rapids might suck, but who the hell had them winning in Chicago this weekend or against Colorado a couple weeks back?

San Jose: THIS IS YOUR TIME SABERCATS! The Kitties have had EVERYTHING working for them with Chicago and Vegas both going down last week after their embarassment at rival Arizona. But a win Friday night is enough to assure the Kittens they'll be going on to the postseason. The problem is that they're playing the statistically best team in the AFL. I'm not sold that Georgia is the end all of end all teams in the AFL, but they're certainly not stunning across the country in a game that means squat. The Kitties will have to pull out the stops though. Anything less than a W will likely leave them at home, unless Arizona helps them out with a win over depleted Vegas.

Arizona has enjoyed the role of spoiler this season, as the offense finally looks to be clicking again for the Rattlers. They take on Vegas, who has the most outs to get in, as either a San Jose or Chicago loss also puts them in. I can't see betting this game, as if San Jose loses Friday night, I can't see them starting Clint Dolezel, and as we've seen, that makes for some ugly Vegas games.

Chicago takes on Nashville in a game they are probably an appropriate dog in. The Rush have been embarassed the past couple weeks and know that this is their last shot. Hohensee is the best coach of the 3 in the race, and I think that he'll get the guys up in this one and take care of a gritty Nashville team, which isn't giving up until the season is over, even though they are again reduced to the spoilers we thought they were the majority of the season.

Philly/Dallas means squat and I feel sorry for anyone required to watch this game on Sunday...

Tampa travels to Columbus to try to knock off Columbus. Game means a lot to Tampa, but they know if Orlando holds serve at home, they'll be travelling to Georgia regardless of the result. Coach Marcum will be watching the scoreboard, and if he can rest Stafford, he probably will. Columbus is much inferior in this game, but I don't know what Marcum is thinking... if he's got the "kill radar" on like he normally has, Tampa will win this game handlely... but if he's more interested in his team's chances of winning a game in the playoffs, the 2nd half of this game could get real ugly.

Game of the week: New Orleans/Orlando. This is basically a playoff game for these two teams. New Orleans knows if they lose they're out. Orlando knows if they lose, they need Columbus' help to get them in. Though Orlando won't be hosting a game, all worked out very well for them, as the two teams they could be facing in the postseason match up horribly against the Preds. Orlando is the team no one wants to face if healthy, and for the first time since week 11, the Preds will be fielding their best 22 guys on Sunday. With the week off and plenty of time to mill over the scenarios, Coach Gruden knows only one thing... winning this weekend. A win this weekend sends the Preds to New York next week. A loss and they're stuck watching the scoreboard go by on the Tampa game to determine their fate.

What I believe is going to happen? The league is gonna rig it so San Jose and Vegas get in from the American Conference, so they can at least showcase 3 of the conference's elite marketing teams. I don't think they'd care who wins Colorado/Vegas, as either way you get a big name to face San Jose, who I don't think the league wants to see get beaten until the Arena Bowl. As far as the National Conference, I think Orlando holds serve, which makes the Tampa game obsolote. Orlando will travel to New York and Tampa will travel to Georgia, and an upset in either game wouldn't be really surprising. I still think you're gonna see the winner of this Orlando/New Orleans face the winner of Colorado/San Jose in the American Finals for the Arena Bowl...

But I just jumped to a lot of conclusions... Besides, the Preds are always dogs when I go to the game... They're 1-7 SU the last 8 games I've seen in person... And you know I'm gonna be at this one.... I'll throw some picks up here tomorrow, but for the record, this has just been extremely ugly lately...

--AFLGuru:toast:
 

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Ok Goo, here's what I played this weekend:

SJ -2 (bought a 1/2 point down from -2.5)
PHL-DAL over 104
AZ +7 (bought a full point up from +6)
NAS +3
CHI-NAS over 92

Also played 1/2 unit on 2 middles, took TB-CMB over 95 at PIN and under 102.5 at OLY, and took DAL -3.5 at PIN and PHL +7 at OLY.

GOTTA REMEMBER: If SJ loses to Georgia Saturday night, Chicago's game at Nashville Sunday means NOTHING to them. They go in as the 3 seed regardless. Something to keep in mind, as if it works out that way, they can rest a lot of players, and we know how banged up they have been.
 

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GOTTA REMEMBER: If SJ loses to Georgia Saturday night, Chicago's game at Nashville Sunday means NOTHING to them. They go in as the 3 seed regardless. Something to keep in mind, as if it works out that way, they can rest a lot of players, and we know how banged up they have been.

WRONG WRONG WRONG! Right now Chic, SJ and LV are all 8-7 and ranked in that order in the standing. let's assume SJ loses to GA (i doubt they will since this game means SQUAT to GA and I can't see them putting up much of a fight for the entire game - choosing to rest guys like Chris Jackson and others in what is - for them - a meaningless game) and falls to 8-8

this means the Chic/Nash and AZ/LV games - which start at the same time sunday (Noon - PDT) means nothing to Chic as far as making the playoffs - for they would be in no matter what. but should Chic lose to drop to 8-8 that gives LV the chance to win and move to 9-7 and the #3 seed and drop Chic to #4

no matter how SJ does saturday the Chic game means EVERYTHING - as far as seeding and if SJ wins - Chic is potentially faced with a "win or else" situation

and Chic might not be in the playoff race at all had the refs not missed a blatantly obvious PASS INT in the end zone in the last few seconds of the LV/Chic game

having said all that - SJ and LV win and not so sure about Chic
 

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i havnt been up with the arena football this year neither did i bet on any of the team. Blizzards holdin down the defends, Does Bowers deserves to be named arenafootball2 defendsive player of the week?

the blizzards tied 5-1 in the eastern division

can the blizzard keep up in the last week
 

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playoff scenarios

see the AFL web site for the playoff scenarios

http://www.arenafootball.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3500&ATCLID=120186&SPID=1563

After 16 weeks, only four teams have clinched playoff berths. That means there are still four postseason spots available heading into the final week of the regular season. Check out what each team needs to do in order to make the playoffs.<o:p></o:p>



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<u>AMERICAN CONFERENCE<u1:p></u1:p></u><o:p></o:p>

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Colorado is the Central Division champion and Los Angeles is the Western Division champion. The top seed will be determined by the outcome of this weekend’s games. The Chicago Rush, Las Vegas Gladiators and San Jose SaberCats vie for the final two wild-card berths heading into the final weekend.<u1:p></u1:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>

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DIVISION CHAMPIONS<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
COLORADO CRUSH: Clinched the Central Division title<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>

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Can clinch the top seed in the American Conference with a victory over New York OR a Los Angeles loss to Grand Rapids<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>

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LOS ANGELES AVENGERS: Clinched the Western Division title<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>

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Can clinch the top seed in the American Conference with a victory over Grand Rapids AND a Colorado loss to New York<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>

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CHICAGO RUSH: Can clinch a postseason berth with a victory over Nashville OR a San Jose loss to Georgia OR a Las Vegas loss to Arizona<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>

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LAS VEGAS GLADIATORS: Can clinch a postseason berth with a victory over Arizona AND a Chicago loss to Nashville OR a San Jose loss to Georgia<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>

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SAN JOSE SABERCATS: Can clinch a postseason berth with a victory over Georgia OR a Las Vegas loss to Arizona<o:p></o:p>

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<u>NATIONAL CONFERENCE<u1:p></u1:p></u><o:p></o:p>

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The Georgia Force clinched the top seed in the National Conference and are the Southern Division champions, while the New York Dragons captured the Eastern Division crown. The New Orleans VooDoo, Orlando Predators and Tampa Bay Storm vie for the final two wild-card berths heading into the final weekend.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>

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DIVISION CHAMPIONS<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
GEORGIA FORCE: Clinched the Southern Division title and the top seed in the National Conference<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>

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NEW YORK DRAGONS: Clinched the Eastern Division title<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>

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WILD CARD<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
NEW ORLEANS VooDoo: Can clinch a postseason berth with a victory over Orlando<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>

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ORLANDO PREDATORS: Can clinch a postseason berth with a victory over New Orleans OR a Tampa Bay loss to Columbus<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>

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TAMPA BAY STORM: Can clinch a postseason berth with a victory over Columbus OR a New Orleans loss to Orlando<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>

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The Arizona Rattlers, Austin Wranglers, Columbus Destroyers, Dallas Desperados, Grand Rapids Rampage, Nashville Kats and Philadelphia Soul have been eliminated from postseason participation.

 

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Yeah Winky, I know it does matter for the seeding, but CHI just wants IN. They have blown 2 chances already. To see SJ lose would put them at ease knowing they are in, and they may take it easy. Going to either COL or LA would be no picnic, but they probably would not care much either way, it's all about getting in.
 

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Alright, here's what I've grabbed... But this has been ridiculously ugly of late. You can either go under the logic that I'm due or under the logic that I'm just getting what I deserve... Tread carefully. I PROMISE that Sunday afternoon I'll do the recap for the rest of the season.

Los Angeles (-7.5) @ Grand Rapids (2 units +100): Avengers are hot right now... really hot. And they need this game for any hope of the #1 seed in the American Conference... a huge number to cover, but it's still Grand Rapids... and these guys are playing their best football since they were Arena champs. Maybe Sparky's righting the ship over there... but then again... maybe not. LA wants a shot at that 1 seed and only a win and a Colorado loss will give them that.

San Jose (-6.5) vs. Georgia (3 units +115): Alright San Jose... you know what the hell you've gotta do.... Unlike last week when I had a sick feeling about the situation San Jose was in, I feel that they're gonna make a statement getting into the playoffs in style, returning to the site of their romp at Colorado on their last game of that nice win streak that put them back in the playoff race. Saberkitties need to show their better face against an overrated team with squat to play for.

Arizona/Vegas under 104.5 (4 units -101): Arizona's defense has been playing impressive football of late, and with Clint Dolezel in question for this game against Arizona, seeing a final of 34-20 wouldn't overly surprise me. If Dolezel plays I think this is in question if Vegas still has something to play for.

New Orleans/Orlando under 99.5 (3 units +100): This game is very simple. Very very simple. If Orlando plays the game in the 80s, they're gonna win and win big. For the first time all season the Preds are healthy and ready to go. The game is sold out and the fans love their defense in Orlando. Coach Gruden has called for a pass rush all week, and even signed another "pass rushing specialist" to get after Andy Kelly. The deep balls aren't going to work this week with McEntyre healthy and playing center field, in a game that he's going to (likely) be named fan favorite of the year. And if the Preds keep the deep balls under 2 allowed, they're gonna win this game going away. Too much on the line to lose this week.

Orlando (-4.5) vs. New Orleans (3 units -104)

Chicago (-1.5) @ Nashville (2 units +130): Ballsy play... I don't think Nashville should have ever been a favorite in this game despite the strong football they've played of late. But Chicago... Ditka needs this game and I think that Mike Hohensee is gonna get the troops up. I think San Jose is gonna beat Georgia, making this one a must win for Chicago. After being embarasssed by Grand Rapids, I don't think the Rush are gonna tank it... I know it's a real ballsy play, but I think it's one worth taking now that the Kats are really done. If San Jose loses, I'm gonna take this bet back.
 

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Guru, I am with you on the Sabercats play tonight. Sometimes I wonder if I lose my objectivity with these guys (being so close) but I am convinced you will get their best effort tonight, and given the veteran players on this team, that should be a considerable advantage. I have not overly impressed with Georgia's pass rush over the past few weeks and that is what has given Grieb the most trouble in the 3 game losing streak they are currently on. I have been searching to see if Nagy is going to play for Georgia. I don't think he will play the entire game (if at all) as Georgia has zero to play for tonight, but due to roster limitations, expect the majority of Georgia's players to play a good chunk of the game tonight. San Jose has good matchups in this game with Georgia and I expect them to be able to take advantage.......all dependent on keeping the pass rush off of Grieb. Good luck to everyone tonight. Local articles are below:

Gerogia

This week, Georgia Force head coach Doug Plank had a lot of numbers bouncing around in his head. One was 59, the amount of points the San Jose SaberCats — this week's opponent — score per game, tops in the AFL. Another was 317, the total yards San Jose's offense gains per contest, also tops in the league.

As he finished his post-practice meal on Friday before heading to San Jose, Calif., for the regular season finale, two numbers concerned Plank: 1 and 22. As Georgia closes out the season and prepares for the playoffs, Plank wants to make sure his team (11-4) takes things one day at a time for the next 22 days.

What's the significance of that date? It's June 12, Arena Bowl Sunday.

"We all realize what lies ahead of us," Plank said. "Regardless of who we play, whatever sacrifices you have to make, whatever price you have to pay for the next [22] days, I think you can pay it, when you realize what's at stake."

Plank said he thinks the team has done a good job of staying focused, which isn't easy

"Staying focused hasn't been a problem for this team," said quarterback Matt Nagy, who took over five games into the season when starting quarterback Jim Kubiak suffered a season-ending knee injury. Last week against Dallas, Nagy threw a career-high nine touchdowns.

"When you look ahead and see what we can accomplish, [staying focused] is not difficult," Nagy said.

Closing out the season against San Jose, the defending ALF champions, who need to win to secure a playoff spot, certainly helps as well. Plank said Saturday night will be another test for the Force.

"It will be a very loud and the intensity level will be extremely high," Plank said. "I've conveyed to the team how important it is for us to have a sense of urgency to start fast."

San Jose

The SaberCats' playoff formula is simple: win and they're in.

If they lose Saturday night, the defending ArenaBowl champions could still reach the postseason, but they would need Las Vegas to lose Sunday against Arizona.

The SaberCats (8-7) would prefer to keep it simple by beating Georgia, the league's No. 1 team, in the regular-season finale at HP Pavilion. To do that, they must correct the mistakes that have plagued them during their three-game losing streak.

``You go back, when we were really good, we executed on the majority of our plays,'' offensive coordinator Terry Malley said. ``Right now, we're executing on 90 percent of our plays. That 10 percent is killing us.''

The biggest problem has been turnovers. San Jose has turned over the ball 10 times in the past three games. Quarterback Mark Grieb, the league's career leader in passer rating, has tied a team record this season by throwing 16 interceptions, seven during the losing streak.

``I can't remember a time in the last five years where we lost three winnable games in a row,'' Grieb said.

Malley said the timing of the interceptions -- a handful have come on first and second downs -- is troublesome. The SaberCats also have been turning the ball over on downs. Two weeks ago against Los Angeles, they did that four times and saw four other possessions end on turnovers.

``We need to make better decisions with the ball,'' Malley said. ``We can't throw interceptions. We can't turn the ball over on the 2-yard line. And we need to protect a little better.''

Three weeks ago, instead of concerns about qualifying, the SaberCats had visions of landing home-field advantage through the playoffs. They were coming off successive wins against first-place teams, having crushed Colorado 89-41 after beating Dallas 83-71.

But that was followed by losses to Nashville and Arizona, both sub-.500 teams, sandwiched around a loss to division champ L.A. Since scoring 172 points against Colorado and Dallas, the SaberCats have managed just 141 in three games.

Defensively, San Jose hasn't created many scoring chances, forcing three turnovers in three games. In the loss to Nashville, the SaberCats failed to force a turnover or make a stop on downs. In their loss to Arizona, the SaberCats allowed the Rattlers to score on eight of nine possessions.

``I know it's just a little funk the team is going through,'' said rookie Rodney Wright, a defensive back and receiver. ``This is when we have to buckle down and get tougher and realize we have a chance to make the playoffs.''

The SaberCats could be catching Georgia at the right time, as the Force (11-4) already has clinched the No. 1 seed in the National Conference. However, limitations on roster size won't allow Georgia to rest many starters. And even if Georgia rests starting quarterback Matt Nagy, the SaberCats would face backup Glen Gauntt, who engineered a victory over San Jose while with Dallas last season.

``If we go in and make a statement, tell the league San Jose is still here and go into the playoffs with some momentum, that would be good for us,'' Wright said.

It might not take much to spark a run. Last season, the SaberCats lost three of their last four regular-season games, then ran the table for their second ArenaBowl title in three years. One major difference: This time the SaberCats will open the playoffs on the road (against Los Angeles or Colorado), if they qualify.

``We just want to get into that second season,'' said offensive specialist Rashied Davis. ``Once we get there, all bets are off. That's where records don't matter.''
 

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i am paying attention to the SJ/GA line hoping it falls to -6 so i can get on SJ -3 for the 1st half
 

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Please, this just keeps getting more embarassing as the weeks go by now... I wonder if I'm even winning money this year any more. Another situation where greed paired with bad luck bit me... That's inexperience as a gambler and I'm sorry for anyone that followed me to the T with that one last night. I turned the game off after Mike Pawlawski, a former AFL starting QB called the Predators "red hot"... they've lost two straight games you idiot...
 

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Sabercats game was nothing more than bad luck Guru. Up to 40-13 at the half and only win by 6? The main problem here was not taking the lower numbers early in the week or giving up the points for the "+" money on the return. I knew not having Frantz kicking the EP's was going to hurt, but I did not think it would matter. Unfortunately for us, from the middle of the third quarter on, San Jose played to get the game over as fast as possible instead of trying to continue to score points. Even with that, they still should've covered, numerous 4th down penalties by the Sabercats kept drives alive in the 4th Q for Georgia (not to mention scoring with less than 10 seconds left by Georgia to cover). Best of luck today.
 

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Yeah I know Quest... This was one of those that I know I made the right call on, but things didn't turn out for the better. That happens in the world of gambling. I just got so pissed at those announcers for sucking I went to my computer to try to find an email address to offer my services as an announcer because I know how the game is played and who's on what planet in the AFL. Hell, while I'm at it, I should put in to be a referee too... That call of "tight end was uncovered" last night was ridiculous... and the scarier part is that I knew what they meant. The tight end has to declare himself as the tight end before every play and whomever's responsibility it was didn't stick his paw in the air to declare himself.
 

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Promise, I'm working on the recap during these games... by the time they're over I'll have the final recap done... Just FYI, I'm probably just gonna do a "playoff thread" in which all I'm likely going to play are moneylines and props, especially if there are individual player matchups, etc. Lots of plays for very small amounts that are simply percentage plays. General public will bet some of these props way in the wrong direction.
 

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Boy I went back and checked this out... I'm 0-fer my last 12 in sides... This is really embarassing.... But here's the recap to date... I didn't grab anything on the exact opening line since week 14, so the opening line and closing line numbers remain. I've dropped off the face of the earth on my sides though. Under 50% by a lot and losing units. I don't ever remember anything looking this bad for this long.

YTD through 16 weeks
Against the opening line: 40-24-2 (62.50%)
Against that same closing line: 37-28-1 (56.92%)

Sides Record: 29-36 (44.62%) (-2.80 units)
Totals Record: 29-17 (63.04%) (+31.38 units)
Parlays: 1-2 (+0.55 units)
1st half: 2-4 (-2.73 units)
2nd half: 14-15 (-3.23 units)
Teasers: 0-1 (-3 units)
Props: 11-10 (+1.72 units)

Composite Record

YTD: 86-85 (50.29%)
Net: +21.89 units
Actual ATS (Sides + Totals + 1st halfs + 2nd halfs): 74-72 (50.68%)

So in the midst of all of this, since came home for summer break, I've dropped some 40 odd units, which is completely embarassing and extremely unacceptable. My deepest apologies to all involved who have blindly followed. But looking back at it, though the year ended up being a bit of a failure in my eyes, I can't lose sight of the fact that money was made, and regardless of how ugly it was to get there, the ultimate goal was met. Hopefully we end the regular season today correctly and move on to a profitable postseason from there.

--AFLGuru:toast:
 

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Gonna add myself two more to this list...

Chicago/Nashville under 97 (3 units -103)

Chicago/Nashville under 48.5 1st half (2.5 units +100)
 

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Things have at least started off a lot better than they have of late... Preds about to go up 14-7 right at the end of the 1st, Chicago down 7-0 but ready to score going to the 2nd and 14-7 Arizona going into the 2nd in Vegas...
 

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Orlando's defense just picked off 2 passes, both called back, and then stopped New Orleans on downs. Incredible hold by the Preds D for 11 plays. New Orleans gets no points, Preds take over up 13-7, and only 5 and change left in the half.
 

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Can someone watching the Chicago/Nashville game explain to me what happened and why Abdul-Kaleq is in the game for Chicago according to gametracker?
 

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Preds are just all over New Orleans on defense. Kelly's now had 3 balls picked, two of them called back, the massive goalline stand, and only 7 points to show for the first 29 and a half minutes of this game. Preds take over up 13 with about 40 seconds left in the half.
 

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