This article is saying the CDC's best estimate is .4 % that show symptoms, it also links a CNN article that talks about it.
https://reason.com/2020/05/24/the-c...a-covid-19-infection-fatality-rate-below-0-3/
This article is saying the CDC's best estimate is .4 % that show symptoms, it also links a CNN article that talks about it.
https://reason.com/2020/05/24/the-c...a-covid-19-infection-fatality-rate-below-0-3/
“have 40% less deaths, in America, if @andrewcuomo
would not of mandated that covid19 positive patients return to the nursing homes to infect our elderly population.”
would not of mandated that covid19 positive patients return to the nursing homes to infect our elderly population.”
I have seen report after report after report after speaker after speaker telling us how overstated the original mortality rates were, and that they were well below 1%
So when I saw he posted a rate > 5%, I knew it was fucked up but I just didn't feel like fighting this fight again
Thanks for posting this
I think a lot of people are correct here. Current death rate based on current deaths and current cases are 5.2%. I believe the CDC is speculating a final death rate of less than 1%. There is evidence that we are heading that way, as cases skyrocketing but raw deaths not rising at the same rate.
Also true that a majority of deaths are in older folks. MSM doesn't discuss the death rate and the demographics of death rates enough in my opinion. There is an assumption by them that more cases means significantly more deaths, because they assume the same death rate. As this affects more younger people, the death rate will fall.
Poster that said we won't shut down again is also right. States may delay certain phases, but probably none will go completely backwards.
I have said it before here and gotten reamed for it - I was OK with the initial shutdown. We didn't know what this was, and it came from out of nowhere. But it should have had a timeframe so people could be prepared, and it should have never gone on for months on end.
Also true that a majority of deaths are in older folks. MSM doesn't discuss the death rate and the demographics of death rates enough in my opinion. There is an assumption by them that more cases means significantly more deaths, because they assume the same death rate. As this affects more younger people, the death rate will fall.
Poster that said we won't shut down again is also right. States may delay certain phases, but probably none will go completely backwards.
I have said it before here and gotten reamed for it - I was OK with the initial shutdown. We didn't know what this was, and it came from out of nowhere. But it should have had a timeframe so people could be prepared, and it should have never gone on for months on end.
I think most states will end up the same place regardless of timing and waves.
As for leadership from the top. I don't disagree with the concept of it. However, we are a country where states make their own laws. So, I don't think Trump was wrong for turning this over to the states. The problem is that there is such a division between the democrats and republicans overall, each state did it differently, and now blue states and red states are pointing fingers and laughing at one another for how they handled this.
And, even if Trump would have guided people, 50% of the states/people wouldn't have listened. Some because he is Trump. Some because he is Republican. Some because he is both. But it would be no different if you took out Trump and put in Obama.
We are a divided country, plain and simple. On everything from Covid to race to how you put on your underwear. Social media, MSM, and posting forums like these are widening the gaps. I believe Civil War is coming sooner than later. Just trying to figure out if it will be blacks versus whites, or Dems versus Republicans.
As for leadership from the top. I don't disagree with the concept of it. However, we are a country where states make their own laws. So, I don't think Trump was wrong for turning this over to the states. The problem is that there is such a division between the democrats and republicans overall, each state did it differently, and now blue states and red states are pointing fingers and laughing at one another for how they handled this.
And, even if Trump would have guided people, 50% of the states/people wouldn't have listened. Some because he is Trump. Some because he is Republican. Some because he is both. But it would be no different if you took out Trump and put in Obama.
We are a divided country, plain and simple. On everything from Covid to race to how you put on your underwear. Social media, MSM, and posting forums like these are widening the gaps. I believe Civil War is coming sooner than later. Just trying to figure out if it will be blacks versus whites, or Dems versus Republicans.
It would’ve helped not to dismantle the pandemic team. And it would’ve helped not to just look at China and expect them to take care of it. Which is what Trump did. He was praising China for how they handled the virus in the final days of January and into February before completely switching his point of view once our economy tanked
I agree. And even if true why doesn't any of the MSM tell us how many of floridas 3000+ deaths are long term hospice? In our state of 1200+ deaths 900+ are long term hospice. What does that leave? Thats why its called the corona hoax. florida isn't going backwards at any point. They will allow for saturation as long as there are enough beds. And why even say all of florida. Most of this is happening in Miami. You go to the gulf panhandle and the beaches are packed and people are living normal lives.
I have a question for you beach goers. How many times are you on the beach right up against people you don't know? I've been thousands of times and its never happened. The best part of the beach is that there is room for everyone to spread out. You stake out your chairs and umbrella and hit the water and walk the beach with your gal or your family. The beach winds are usually blowing a bit. There is no chance some stranger who is at least 6 feet away from you anyway can possible pass the hoax. But who gets the blame in MSM? Responsible beach goers or rioters and looters who are side by side?
