First Fidelity are nothing but scammers!!

[DellDude]

How Do I Collect My Winnings?

Many clients prefer to keep their winnings on deposit in their Accounts to
maximize their future wagering, however, this is Absolutely Unnecessary.
Whenever you decide to "cash in" some or all of your winnings, we will immediately UPS Next Day Air, Western Union or Bank Wire you the funds requested that day. In fact… WE GUARANTEE IT!

UPS Next Day Air - Bank Check
Call us by 12 Noon E.S.T. Monday thru Friday,
and a U.S. Bank Check is in your hands the
Following Day…GUARANTEED!!

Western Union - Cash
Call us by 12 Noon E.S.T. Monday thru Saturday, then Pick-up
your Cash at a Western Union Office in your area
within 4-6 Hours... GUARANTEED!!

Bank to Bank Wire
Call us by 12 Noon E.S.T., Monday thru Friday, and a Bank Wire
is sent by our Bank within 24 Hours... GUARANTEED!!

Neteller
Call us by 12 Noon E.S.T. Monday thru Saturday and
we will have your transfer deposited into your Neteller account.
Neteller accepts Mastercard and Visa.

Any Questions call our customer service number
Toll-Free 1 (877) 946-6697
Any operator standing by can help you.

 

[DellDude]

If accurate, that would be good. If accurate.

 

[jls626]

Dell Dude,
Everything you just posted bout their payouts are true! They PAY SAME DAY! Yes after 6pm but its the SAME DAY! They don't like BONUS WHORES and what sports book does?? Aggresive marketing, yes but who doesn't! Your advertisers here don't have to cold call anyone they post specials here every day! First Fidelity is now advertising back across the street! So now maybe they won't have to call so much!

 

[DellDude]

I'll give em a test drive tomorrow...

 

[studbolt]

jls626,
I have noticed that you areposting in every thread about First fidelity. Of course every thread right now regarding FF is a negative thread about scamming customers. But you are the only poster who is defending these clowns for scamming customersout of promised bonuses. You are a shill for these bastards and I wouldn't piss on Nate if he was on fire. Any possible customers out there of First Fidelity, you need to stay far away.

 

[jls626]

Studbolt,
Believe me and if you don't no problem, I'm no schill for any sportsbook! Right now First Fidelity is the only book I am dealing with! I'm looking for some solid books for football! Hey if a sports book has been great to you wouldn't you give them a plug! Once again , I'm with them for a long time, NEVER had a phone call, ALWAYS GOT PAID SAME DAY, Yes I get mail from them but I discard it most of the time! They do advertise a 20% reload bonus but I get only 10%. You see I'd still deal with them if I recieved NO bonus at all! Hell my local guy NEVER gives me a bonus,lol! Bottom line is I speak well bout books that treat me well! Please tell me WHY YOU HATE FIRST FIDELITY!! I'll listen and if I find things to be true I might look elsewhere! Hey by the way if the Yankees are playing on Thursday( DERECK JETERS & MY BIRTHDAY) Bet the ranch on the Yankees!

 

[jls626]

Hey Studbolt,
Forgot to ask, who do you schill for? Who do you play with? Who do you praise offshore?? Its Bonus whores like, well whoever who is scamming the offshore industry! Any book who offers large signup bonuses guaranteed will close shop earlier than the ones who don't! Tell me who you deal with offshore , I'll give them a shot! Heck if its bonuses you live for, I'll even give you the signup bonus for me signing!

 

[Limelight]

I beat them for 15K in 2 weeks, and they never once called for me to re-up.
And had no problems getting paid.

LL

 

[jls626]

Studbolt,
Don't know what problems you had with Nate Evans at First Fidelity! He's a dynomite guy! Did you get stiffed by him at all? All I know and I'm not Schilling for him is that when I dealt with Nate he was honest and a great acting manager that if i owned a sportsbook he would be my choice to run things for me! Hell anyone from New York is Ok in my book!

 

[NATE]

Thanks Studbolt for the offer but I'll pass, save your pissing for your forum buddies.

As for real issues, if you'd like to call or email, I can look into and see if there is any merit to what you say. Or if you want to post your account #, we can air it all out here and see what your really up to.

But if you're won of those guys who defered your bonus until either-
A) you met your 6x rollover
or
B)you went bust

then the answer is no, when you bet balance every time, withdraw all your winnings after each bet, get (3) $5000 WDs and then lose a bet-THAT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE GOING BUST-by any human beings definition. And if you reup to meet your rollover-It costs me 4% Neteller to get your money back, just because you NEED to withdraw after winning one bet.

Don't know who you are Studbolt-are you a gambler or just another bonus whore looking for new loopholes?
Let me know.


GAMBLERS WANTED

 

[studbolt]

jls,
Gimmie a break. Nate is the joker I had problems with. One of his employees called me to reload and promised me a 30% Bonus Play to do so. However, I had to take it on the back end after I lost my post up and I could withdraw my winnings which I did. They then would not give me the bonus when I lost my post up. I don't care about your sign up bonus or any of that. My beef is the lie. They flat out lied to me about giving me my Bonus Play. And if a book will lie to you about that, then they will lie to you about anything. I am sorry jls you can try and justify the lying going on at FF under the supervision of nate. But lying by any institution to their customers is unacceptable and I won't condone it. You asked for books I play with. I play with Grande, BlueGrass, and Pinnacle, all of which are as solid as they come. Even royal is straight up. In fact Scotty at Royal personally called me about rule changes that they had made to make sure their would be no misunderstandings. Not Nate! He wants misunderstandings and ambiguity so he can back out of promises and gurantees made. I am sorry but all the defending you are doing for FF is worthless, because their is no justification to lie.

 

[PatrickMcIrish]

Stud - give Nate a call and see what can be worked out. What can it hurt? I don't want you to think I would defend them but they pay me when I ask for my money without fail. The only complaint I have seen from them is how their marketing works, not about anything else.

Give it a shot and let us know. I'd be curious to know how this ends if you give them a ring. Thanks.

 

[Slash]

Do books really pay 4% in Neteller fees when players deposit??? I thought books could choose to pay $15 per deposit instead?

 

[NATE]

waiting for your call or account # to reveal the TRUE nature of your gripe Studbolt-

Anyone else here think taking WDs afer every win and then losing one bet constitues going bust?

Or maybe you just want to look for likely rainouts to meet your rollover?

 

[NATE]

as I said-



GAMBLERS WANTED

 

[PatrickMcIrish]

Books can go different ways on Neteller from what I read. I think they can use a % or a flat fee. Maybe someone can correct that if I am wrong.

I would guess both Neteller and the books involved look over their own usage and make the decisions based on that.

 

[jls626]

Hey Nate,
These guys are bonus whores, you don't need there aggrevation and bullshit! First Fidelity will give you a reload bonus if you are in the red! Show me a book who will bonus you if you are in the black and I'll play there all the time! Bottom Line First Fidelity is a 1st class operation top to bottom and this ISN'T a schill. I guess if First Fidelity advertised here then there attitudes would be different.

 

[Halifax]

The Swami Halifax's 5-Star Prediction:


Unfortunately, the rule of "allowing any winnings to be withdrawn before rollover requirements are met, and still keeping your bonus" will have gone the way of the dinosaurs by this time next year. This rule gives the shrewd player a license to print money.

By this time next year, 99% of books will not allow any withdrawals before rollover requirements are met, or the bonus will be forfeited.

 

[PatrickMcIrish]

What are you talking about JLS? I see one person bashing them and me trying to get them to talk it out? In fact I said they have always paid me when I wanted my money. I would guess I have probably been one of their biggest defenders on this site.....

 

[jls626]

Sorry Mr. McIrish,
Your a good Moderator, Just get pissed when I here of a person losing thousands on an online casino game and accusing someone of stealing. Or a person in the black wanting a bonus that don't deserve it! All in all if a gambler loses he or she shouldn't complain. I enjoy reading your posts! Think you are great! Maybe someone does have a beef with a certain sportsbook but shouldn't be able to post unless they show you proof of their inquiry!!