Favorite Handicappers

RidgeRider · Sep 7, 2009

Last two posters- I've followed people and tracked people for years not just weeks. Budin is up barely over his career giving football picks and down on everything else. The number of buys you claim that all of Budin's sites get come from who? I'll tell you who. It's from Steve Budin in an interview. I would bet he gets 30-40% of what he says he gets. He's a bookmaker and a former convict if I'm not wrong. Just because idiots buy his stable of picks doesn't mean they win on those picks. The masses also followed Bernie Madoff and he was a thief. I'm not saying that a few of his handicappers can't win each season but the chances of you picking out three of his best handicappers and tailing them this football season and winning is very, very unlikely. They all use fake names. In an interview in the last year Steve Budin claimed that Brandon Lang was a great handicapper. That is laughable. That is an outright lie. Brandon Lang and I repeat this so you won't be able to interpret this HAS NEVER HAD ONE WINNING YEAR HANDICAPPING. BRANDON LANG HAS NEVER HAD ONE WINNING YEAR HANDICAPPING. Stu Feiner the misfit and piece of trash he is came out and adnmitted that he made up the whole Brandon Lang has won every Super Bowl and spotted him a 12-0 record. Good luck buying anyone's picks from those site. I and anyone who is educated will move on and buy other better and more honest handicappers.

pensfan1919 · Sep 7, 2009

Stu Feiner the misfit and piece of trash he is came out and adnmitted that he made up the whole Brandon Lang has won every Super Bowl and spotted him a 12-0 record.

So Feiner is a misfit and piece of trash?

If that is the case why do you believe him about the Lang situation?

Wouldn't a misfit and piece of trash possibly lie about such a thing?

RidgeRider · Sep 7, 2009

The reason I believe Feiner is he's to stupid to realize that by admitting this he made it up he committed fraud. This is a marketing move that only someone like Stu Feiner could make up. Interesting if you watch Stu and his video's he admits on more than one occassion that he's flat broke. He talks about the money he made and then talks about the times when he's lost everything and comes back from nothing. Do I believe everything Stu Feiner says? No way but he also tells some stories that are very believeable.

RidgeRider · Sep 7, 2009

smit- No one I know has tracked these guys you mentioned. Are th3ey monitored anywhere? Someone mentioned Teddy Covers. If he is hot the first couple weeks then he is a guy you want. He has hit well above 60% on more than a few occassions. He also can hit 38-42% in a season. His seasons have more ups or downs than anyone I've ever tracked.

MetsFan44 · Sep 7, 2009

All guys on Swami's site are required to be monitored by Oklahoma Sports Monitor......seems like Swami has his hand in the cookie jar over there.

tjr4377 · Sep 7, 2009

what about ben burns

mjag21 · Sep 7, 2009

i followed computer crushers last year for NCAA F. They seemed to do well if i remember correctly.

RidgeRider · Sep 7, 2009

At The Sports Monitor all three handicappers aren't even listed in the handicappers directory. No Red Zone. No Silky Sullivan and no Blue Nu.

icethekicker · Sep 7, 2009

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so what i need to figure out is how to rank those picks.... right now i just have an excel spread sheet that has 40 different tabs with all the cappers, some dont rate their picks so i just have a Win/Loss column for both NFL and College (to see if they are better at one or the other), others have dime or star rankings systems and i keep track of their wins/loss and use their ranking system to figure out their profit... with these others i will just have to figure out their wins/loss with each of their types of picks and go from there... hope that makes scene... once the games go final tonight i will work on how most of the cappers did this college weekend...
one of the hard parts is obtaining every cappers pick everyday... sometimes they are post and sometimes they aren't... hard to make an acrurate documentation when i dont get all their picks...
so other than this site and betvega are there any other sites that list pics? someone showed me a site that you have to pay but they list pics as well... can't remember the site though... but anyway i do put together all this data but i just need to make sure i am going to be able to get each cappers pic so the data isn't skewed

Ol-G-Parker said:
This is just the post I decided to quote you on but there are many. You sound like such a KNOW IT ALL. You are extremely funny how everything you say you are so convinced about. Have you bought each of the 6-7 services for a week or a month and decided because you didn't win they all suck and are losers?

Get a clue with the things you say. Budin has been tracked for years here and his NFL and generally Football picks overall are extremely good. Also are ranked with realistic dime amounts rather than some that are on that list. He is also one of the easiest to monitor here as he may have 1 to 2 picks a week.

You use lines like "WASTE TIME" ? How is wasting time when at 29 bucks he will get between 2,000 to 5,000 buys depending on the Sunday. Super Bowl pick he will have close to 5,000 buys at 29 bucks a pop. If that is a waste of time to you then you should start buying more picks for the forum and contributing big timer.

There is a reason the guy who started this thread is picking between 12+ handicappers to SEE what is what and not hear it from lackeys like yourself who have bought into a site when they are smoking hot and then go cold, then claim a service sucks.

There are so many of you out there looking to make a quick buck and ride this guy and that guy. It is very rare you will be able to do that. Find a solid capper and follow him throughout the year. Chasing winners will drive you nuts, but find one guy and follow him consistently is the key.

That is what the purpose of this thread will be to find one or two cappers that are good for the football season and then we stick with it for the entire season. Will there be a weekend where the guy we are following will lose? of course, but if he can win more football weekends then he loses that is good. The problem is people like you will stop following after one bad week, then not cash in on the four week winning streak.

icethekicker · Sep 7, 2009

Demarco is Big Al right???

ARGLSG said:
Wow. Everything's a conspiracy, right? Budin's site is the most reputable one available. Budin's had a poor MLB season this summer, but he's still up almost 2000 dimes since he started his thing, over 1100 in football alone. If you were to follow nothing but Steve Budin, you'd be up a lot of cash and be a very happy dude.

Budin, DeMarco, Valentino, and Frank Patron get me to the promised land.

icethekicker · Sep 7, 2009

personally i am trying to limit the amount of "computer" pic cappers to a few... because most of the time the computer pics are on the same side
i know there are a lot of cappers out there... and i do enjoy the personal stories about things you have encountered or heard about certain cappers... but lets please not make this personal with one another... calling people names and fighting back and forth doesn't help me figure out what names to add and take off the list... i know brandon lang is a fraud and i know all the people that are with him on the same site he is.... however all the sites i went to last night to get names of cappers... there were quite a few people that had their names on multiple sites with different people... leads me to believe the scam of giving one side of the game to some buying customers and the other side of the game to the other customers... is very prevalent!!!
i do appreciate all the help and input... please keep it coming... and i will post the spread sheet after the games go final tonight... please keep posting about what cappers to follow or not follow... and keep it to a simple disagreement if you dont agree with someone else said... state your facts and dont call the other person names... just state facts

ARGLSG · Sep 7, 2009

icethekicker said:
Demarco is Big Al right???

I don't know for sure, but I don't think so. My buddies and I call him Big Al, but that's just a stupid nickname we've given him. Pretty sure the "Big Al" who gets posted on here is someone different.

khouston66 · Sep 7, 2009

smit said:
don wagner the www.swami.com & www.sports-watch.com tracks these guys & records are right on
red zone which i buy #1 cfb last year & silky who is pricy and chris moss are tracked
not advertising as redzone has net plays and phoine plays which is weird, but plays i buy are monitored

gracios

i thought redzone was linked hawaii sports wire?? you could spend $300 in a weekend buying all of their plays. they have so many different games and ratings.

silky and moss are tracked only by wagner, i am not saying he is lieing,but i find it funny for how long silky etc... has been on there winning at such a great % she is not monitored by the ok sports monitor....anyway wagner is a nice guy and his son is too.

khouston66 · Sep 7, 2009

ARGLSG said:
I don't know for sure, but I don't think so. My buddies and I call him Big Al, but that's just a stupid nickname we've given him. Pretty sure the "Big Al" who gets posted on here is someone different.

that is his last name

Joedogs · Sep 7, 2009

I believe big al is Al Mcmordie

mase34 · Sep 7, 2009

thesharpmoves was good last year they have blade and frank black and a few others....

steve114123 · Sep 7, 2009

So ridge which handicappers would you reccomend
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khouston66 · Sep 7, 2009

grabmyankles4services said:
All guys on Swami's site are required to be monitored by Oklahoma Sports Monitor......seems like Swami has his hand in the cookie jar over there.

not all of the cappers are on the ok sports monitor on the swamis site, ruth runs a pretty good service so i dont think she is getting paid off by the swami, the problem with the swami the plays are so expensive $100 - $200 on some shows per game. You would have to be betting 2k a game to pay for $200 a game because its just adding a lot of juice.

enpassant · Sep 7, 2009

Dr. Bob and RAS are the only two services I would trust.

khouston66 · Sep 7, 2009

cappers bettingjesus / footballjesus

from the guys on twitter the best one is bettingjesus he post his plays after they go off the board and you can talk to him, footballjesus does not post his plays, and then says he has a push when he lost but you can talk to him