Fat Frank for mod of this forum

[kayaman+]

Just to clear this up...

"Nigger" is a derogatory term derived from "negro" refering to the dark skinned, african decent peoples.

"Redneck" does not refer to any race. It is a stereotypical term refering to a type of white person (white, which of course isn't even a race itself, but rather a mix) literally coming from short very short hair that exposes the neck, and the neck becoming red from exposure to the sun, implying that the person in question is a rural farmer type. "Redneck" is also often taken to mean racist, uneducated, conservative.

Nigger is basically always understood as derogatory, excepting "nigga'" used primarily in hip-hop culture (Frank appears to be confusing "nigger" and "nigga'").

"Redneck" is more subject to context. It is not at all uncommon to hear, "I'm proud to be a redneck!" in some parts of the U.S.

Given, I don't think Radio meant it in a nice way.

 

You're weak, radio...

Everyone who reads this thread knows your intent when using "rednecks"... Just more hypocrisy.

 

>Given, I don't think Radio meant it in a nice way.

Of course not... It was used in a racist way.

 

[radiofreecostarica]

You are wrong kaya.

"Nigger" is NOT derived from negro, but rather from the word, "niggardly" meaning, lazy.
Frank, your case here, if there ever was one aside from mere childish harrassment, was lame and based on an incorrect parallel between two different terms with two different historical connotations.

 

[radiofreecostarica]

Since when did this thread turn into frank's rightwing witch hunt?

 

Niggardly doesnt mean lazy. Used in accounting some times.

 

[radiofreecostarica]

ok,...

stingy, begrudging.....either way, the term was taken from this word.

 

Not a witch-hunt, radio... Just that your racism reared its ugly head.

 

Frank, buddy, you look stupider with every post. I sure hope the RX is paying you some sort of fee to make an ass out of yourself.

 

Nice ad hominem post, Jake!

Come back soon...

 

[kayaman+]

Radio,

Here's Webster for you. I was English teacher, not to sound like a pompous ass, but when it comes to the English language if I don't know what I'm talking about I don't say it.

Main Entry: nig·ger
Pronunciation: 'ni-g&r
Function: noun
Etymology: alteration of earlier neger, from Middle French negre, from Spanish or Portuguese negro, from negro black, from Latin niger
Date: 1700
1 usually offensive, see usage paragraph below : a black person
2 usually offensive, see usage paragraph below : a member of any dark-skinned race
3 : a member of a socially disadvantaged class of persons <it's time for somebody to lead all of America's niggers... all the people who feel left out of the political process -- Ron Dellums>
usage Nigger in senses 1 and 2 can be found in the works of such writers of the past as Joseph Conrad, Mark Twain, and Charles Dickens, but it now ranks as perhaps the most offensive and inflammatory racial slur in English. Its use by and among blacks is not always intended or taken as offensive, but, except in sense 3, it is otherwise a word expressive of racial hatred and bigotry.

Frank,

He didn't say it in a nice way, but also he couldn't have said it in a racist way because the term is not racist. Again it refers to a perceived type of white person. Considering that and the fact that white is not even a race (for example I'm proud to be of Celtic decent rather than Anglo-Saxon) you can't say that "redneck" is racist.

 

>you can't say that "redneck" is racist.

YES I CAN! LOL

>Considering that and the fact that white is not even a race

Nor is Black... Following your logic: *IF* nigger = blacks and black is not a race because of integrated blood then "nigger" isnt racist.

 

[Seymour]

Frank, what state do you live in?

TX -421
IA -230
OK -188
WV -211
CA +289
CT +311
NY City +712

Lives on a piece of acreage -629
Goes to church every Sunday -972
Has a case of Bud in the fridge -1103
Is still furius that Clinton got a BJ -7824

 

[kayaman+]

Black the color no, but black the people, as in African decent yes. Black, as far as peoples, refers to the race of dark skinned peoples indiginous to Africa.

White is a generalization, including, Anglos, Saxons, Germanics, Celts, etc.

I really don't know what your point is here Frank, except for Radio using a prejudiced term. I mean we're debating word meanings, in other words opinion does not come into play. "Nigger" is a racist slur, "Redneck" is a stereotype most commonly used in a prejudiced context.

You're just arguing for the sake of it aren't you Frank.

 

I'll take California for the Max.

ANd don't be backing out like bodog..

 

Fat Frank for mod of this forum

Sure, if racism is your cup tea ...

 

>You're just arguing for the sake of it
>aren't you Frank.

You say arguing -- I say discussing in a "think tank" sorta way...

 

>I'll take California for the Max.

 

these type of discussions are never productive. they only lead to people being offended. time for it to go away...