Exbookie Thread On Talking About This Coming Season 30 Days Before Preseason

ACE-ACE · Jul 22, 2007

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Given the offensive line keeps lose top veterans; new guys will have to step up!!! The quarterback situation is expected to put more pressure on RB Larry Johnson. The aging secondary was not given relief from the draft this year. Only time will tell how they do. This capper thinks they will win less than 8 games this year.
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Another new QB!!!! Trent Green 37, who was hurt much of last season and Ineffective in the playoffs. Ted Ginn expected to be kick returner as he nurses a foot Injury. The offensive line has question marks!!!
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Thomas Jones should bring life to the running game. One guy to watch will be no.3 overall pick Andre Wadsworth, whose career has been derailed by injuries. .Injury prone Chad Pennington stepped up and had a healthy season; it could be a playoff return.
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Key words “young unproven talent” The Raiders have much to prove!!! Last of key questions. Who will replace Randy Moss? Will the running game get back on track? Will the offensive line block anyone?
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This year we have a new coach Mike Tomlin. He has promised to open up an offense that lost only center Jeff Hartings. They want Lawrence Timmons top draft pick to take over the defense. Hope Ben Roethlisberger stays well.
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New head coach, faces enormous pressure as he inherits a super bowl team. Turner, who builds his reputation as a molder of QB, needs to continue the maturation of Phillip Rivers
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White, a disappointment as a rookie last year has to step up this year.QB Vince Yong, who led the Titans to six wins in the last seven games in 2006, looks to step it up another notch.

This is all 16 teams in the AFC...Nfc to come in a few days

best to all

ACE-ACE

Thomas · Jul 24, 2007

Colts long time left tackle retires, key position loss could prove to be a huge loss for the colts. Looks like he is serious but it could be a ploy by him to renegotiate as this is his final year on current contract.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2944430

sharky99 · Jul 24, 2007

thx for posting all your info ACE, wanted to wish you the best for the upcoming season, hopefully see you at the bash.

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ACE-ACE · Jul 24, 2007

sharky99 said:
thx for posting all your info ACE, wanted to wish you the best for the upcoming season, hopefully see you at the bash.arty:

THANKS...WHICH BASH ARE YOU GOING TO BE AT...AS OF NOW i CAN ONLY GO TO THE AUG 18 ONE AND THATS A 50-50 THING.

BEST TO YOU

ACE-ACE

ACE-ACE · Jul 24, 2007

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New coach Ken Whisenhurt is in. Matt Leinart is expected to open the season with Kurt Warner moving to 2nd string. Unless a revamp of the offensive plan, Leinart could find his development in danger!!!
5-11 last year odds 7 ½ games I like it under!!! 4-12 big edge <o></o>
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Another team and another new coach Bobby Petri no to make thing work. Key Issues is Michael Vick. So the decision to ship Schaub to <st1

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7-9 last year no line on the totals because of Michael Vick. Pass <o></o>
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Veteran wide receiver Key Shawn Johnson has departed. New to the fold as backup QB is David Carr. Jake Dellhomme’s future at QB might hinge on whether a shaky 2006 was just a blip on what has been an otherwise sturdy stay in <st1

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8-8 last year odds 9 and I think that what they will do. No edge<o></o>
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Thomas Jones was moved out despite solid production, and that puts the pressure on returnee Cedric Benson. There is no getting around the Qb situation, where Rex Grossman will have to improve his play if the bears want to get to the playoffs.
13-3 last year, odds 10. Don’t think they will do it again under 9-7 Big edge<o></o>
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New coach, Wade Phillips, who has a reputation of being a player’s coach. Whiz kid Romo was a surprise last year, but his hoped for progression will be a major issue for the cowboys.
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New is WR Calvin Johnson, taken with the no. 2 draft pick. Joe Barry arrives from the <st1:City w:st="on"><st1

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3-13 last year, odds 6 I feel they will be 8-8 this year Big edge on over<o></o>
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Brett Favre is still the man, having decided to return to the Packers for what will be his 17th season. The running game has become something of a great unknown, and the special teams have to improve.
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Who will be the man behind the center, Tarvaris Jackson or Brooks Bollinger? That’s the biggest issue the team has in camp. All and all the pass rush needs to step it up.
6-10 last year, odds 7 I feel it will be 7 so no edge<o></o>

ACE-ACE · Jul 24, 2007

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6-10 last year, over and under on games totals by the odds maker is 7 ½ I see it at 5 one less game than last year BIG EDGE ON UNDER<o></o>
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12-4 last year, odds 11 ½ this line is tight….No edge<o></o>
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10-6 last year, odds 8, I think they will do at 9 and with the juice of +128 it’s a great value!!!! Over is the play<o></o>
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2-14 last year, odds 5, I think they will do better but for me I will pass. No value <o></o>
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8-8 last year, odds 8 ½, this will go over
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14-2 last year, odds 10 ½, why did they make this so low this will go over!!!<o></o>
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8-8 last year, odds 7, small edge under<o></o>

in_a_days · Jul 24, 2007

Hello ACE and board. I know a couple posters 'round these parts, but I've never more than glanced at the board. This is my second year living in Vegas and I am eager to learn. I look forward to reading your analysis and providing some of my own when I think it's worth something.

ACE-ACE · Jul 24, 2007

in_a_days said:
Hello ACE and board. I know a couple posters 'round these parts, but I've never more than glanced at the board. This is my second year living in Vegas and I am eager to learn. I look forward to reading your analysis and providing some of my own when I think it's worth something.

welcome to the forum...weall have something to share :thumbsup:

Dialer · Jul 24, 2007

KC will struggle early in the year. Croyle will have an opportunity to show that he is an NFL QB. He is very raw for the NFL. LJ may hold out, and most people around KC think he should get more money. The line is depleted so it will take a while for them to gel.
I like Houston in the opener and KC under for the season.

fivestarjake · Jul 25, 2007

andre wadsworth...wtf is he still doing in the league?

JustMe · Jul 25, 2007

Ace...

Looking foward to a good year. I'm glad to see Wilheim is clamping down on the BS this year. You have been a class act for the 3 years that I have been on here and I did not like the crap you had to put up with last year.

Do your best, hopefully win a lot but most important have fun and ignore the nay sayers.

ACE-ACE · Jul 25, 2007

JustMe said:
Ace...

Looking foward to a good year. I'm glad to see Wilheim is clamping down on the BS this year. You have been a class act for the 3 years that I have been on here and I did not like the crap you had to put up with last year.

Do your best, hopefully win a lot but most important have fun and ignore the nay sayers.

THANKS FOR THE KIND WORDS

I GOT A HARD HEAD 32 SEC' IN THE EAR :bbsmile: 10 SEC' OUT

ACE-ACE

ACE-ACE · Jul 26, 2007

32 TEAM AND HERE IS THE LAST 8 TEAMS

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Few teams kept their roster as healthy as the saints last season, but that’s a relatively rare event. Young WR Marques Colston is being counted on to build on what became a breakout rookie season. This team is not to be taken lightly.
10-6 last year, odds on season total game 9, this will go over big edge!!!<o></o>
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New coordinator Steve Spagnuolo, can he get the defense going? That’s nearly as important as whether QB Eli Manning finally shelves inconsistency and begins to approach the level of play expected.
8-8 last year, odds 8, sees this one going under big edge!!!<o></o>
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Qb Donovan McNabb has no guarantees the burn knee that keep him out of much of last season will be healed enough for the opener. WR Kevin Curtis needs to make a splash after arriving from <st1

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10-6 last year, odds 9 ½ to close to call. Pass<o></o>
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For the Rams to have a shoot at the playoffs, the defense must get better. The offensive line needs to mature, and Qb Marc Bulger must remain healthy.
8-8 last year, odds 8 they got this one right!!! No edge<o></o>
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Alex Smith needs to continue his growth at QB. Running back Frank Gore was abit of a surprise last season but can’t be expected to do it all himself
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Running back Shaun Alexander is getting older and missed a chunk of last season with a bum foot. The Seahawks need him!!! It is critical that the defense show improvement this season.
9-7 last year, odds 9, I feel it will go under. Small edge<o></o>
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Garcia as Qb starting role? Can 3rd year RB Carnell Williams step up to Elite status? But perhaps the biggest issue is the futures of Coach Jon Gruden, who probably must see his team do well to save his job. I say they step up this year!!!
4-12 last year, odds 7 big edge over!!!<o></o>
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Aging Mark Brunell at QB, but he will be under scrutiny this season as fans yearn for a uptick in his progress. Does he still have it!!
5-11 last year, odds 7 ½ too high small edge to the under<o></o>

THIS YEAR I WILL ONLY MAKE ONE BET ON THOSE TOTALS THIS BET WILL HAPPEN AROUND THE 2ND WEEK OF PRESEASON....AS OF NOW I GOT THE TOP 5 THAT I WANT TO PUT MONEY ON....MY GOAL IS TO BET THE BEST ONE....CALL IT THE BEST OF THE BEST:thumbsup:

ACE-ACE

ESQAJM · Jul 26, 2007

ACE-ACE said:
32 TEAM AND HERE IS THE LAST 8 TEAMS

Ace: I don't know, maybe its me, but I can only find 24 teams that you listed for the under/over totals-not 32.
I gat a post where you started with ARIZONA, another post with NEW ORLEANS and another with KANSAS CITY. Each post had 8 teams for a total of 24. Where is the post with the missing 8 teams?

ACE-ACE · Jul 26, 2007

ESQAJM said:
ACE-ACE said:

32 TEAM AND HERE IS THE LAST 8 TEAMS

Ace: I don't know, maybe its me, but I can only find 24 teams that you listed for the under/over totals-not 32.
I gat a post where you started with ARIZONA, another post with NEW ORLEANS and another with KANSAS CITY. Each post had 8 teams for a total of 24. Where is the post with the missing 8 teams?

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YOUR RIGHT GOT ONE THAT STARTED WITH BALT ...BUT NO OVER AND UNDERS

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13-3 LAST YEAR,ODDS 9.5 EDGE TO THE OVER SMALL EDGE
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7-9 LAST YEAR ODDS 6...THE ODDSMAKER GOT THIS ONE RIGHT...NO EDGE
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8-8 LAST YEAR,ODDS 9....THID IS TO HIGH SEE THEM DOING 7 BIG EDGE UNDER
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4-12 LAST YEAR,ODDS 6....I FEEL THIS IS ONE OF THE WORST TEAM LAST YEAR AND I DONT SEE THEM PUTTING IT TOGETHER SO SOON ....BIG EDGE UNDER!!
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9-7 LAST YEAR ODDS 9 1/2....NO EDGE FOR ME
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6-10 LAST YEAR,ODDS 6 1/2 SMALL EDGE OVER 7
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Legend-I-Aint · Jul 26, 2007

IF the Hawks, Rams and 49'ers all end up right around what is listed then we could have someone going to the playoffs out west with an 8-8 record?:thumbsup:

BigTymePlayer25 · Jul 30, 2007

hey ace,

you gonna be betting the pre-season this year big fella???

VoiceofReason101 · Jul 30, 2007

Lines are out

SUN 5 AUG.....HALL OF FAME GAME

261 NO-35.5
262 PIT-1.5

THUR 9 AUG.....

263 CIN-37
264 DET-1.5

265 IND-37
266 DAL-3.5

FRI 10 AUG.....

267 ATL-33.5
268 NYJ-4

269 NE-1 -105
270 TB-34.5

271 BUF
272 NO.....OTB

273 STL-36
274 MIN-2.5

SAT 11 AUG.....

275 GB
276 PIT.....OTB

277 JAX-33
278 MIA-2

279 KC-36
280 CLE-3 Ev

281 WAS-35.5
282 TEN-3 -115

283 CAR-35
284 NYG-1

285 CHI-1.5
286 HOU-33.5

287 AZ-35
288 OAK-2.5

SUN 12 AUG.....

289 SEA-37.5
290 SD-4

MON 13 AUG.....

291 PHI-33
292 BAL-3

293 DEN-35.5
294 SF-3 +105

ACE-ACE · Jul 30, 2007

BigTymePlayer25 said:
hey ace,

you gonna be betting the pre-season this year big fella???

UNDER $800 BETS ....BUT YES...GRASSHOPPER:banger:

AA

trentmoney · Jul 30, 2007

ace-

took miami u7.5 -145
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lions o6-130 yesterday...

was just skimming thru your thread and saw you like both as well...

i only see fins favored in 4 or 5 games this year..!!

also took lions +1200 to win that crappy division
see bears coming back down and at those odds figured there was value

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