Evaluation of MrMartingale System: CONCLUSION

[krh7]

just get picks from ace ace in his "win the money or lose the bankroll" thread. he has a great martingale run going since march.

 

[Akillies]

i thought monty python already made this movie
search for the holy grail

 

[nyyanks]

First, I must admit I haven't looked at this system close. Are you guys serious, though, thinking any type of progressive system gives you an edge. No doubt you can win with it, but only if the picks are solid. It isn't the progressive system that is doing it. The gambling literature is definately clear on this point.

 

[99steak]

First, I must admit I haven't looked at this system close. Are you guys serious, though, thinking any type of progressive system gives you an edge. No doubt you can win with it, but only if the picks are solid. It isn't the progressive system that is doing it. The gambling literature is definately clear on this point.

i thought monty python already made this movie
search for the holy grail

Well thats the thing, most people see the word martingale and they think its search for the holy grail because of progression going for ever.

But this progression does not go for ever. Upto six games and then you stop if it goes to six games. Whenever it goes to 6 games, you restart instead of continuing the progression.

The system is explained in less than 3 paragraphs. Read it and read the rules. Well let me copy and paste the system from mrmartingale page since most of you cant get past the term "martingale".

MrMartingale Betting System is my modified version of the actual martingale strategy with a set of rules. I highly suggest that you read the rest of this page before you walk away thinking that this doesn't work. It is true that basic martingale strategy is road to failure but this version is highly profitable when followed as explained in this page. I have been using my version of the system ever since the autumn of 2006 and it is yet to fail as of today. Many who doubted they system ended up using it and they are all regretting not joining sooner.
I will avoid all mathematical explanation using sequence, series and functions etc in order to make it understandable to everyone--instead I will use simple words and numbers to tell you what exactly to do. In this modified version we will use 2.1 factor after each loss instead of 2 (doubling up) and set the boundary to 6 instead of infinity. Lets say the starting bet amount = 1 Unit = U. Then using 2.1 factor after each loss we get the following sequence of bet amounts:
Bet 1 = U
Bet 2 = U(2.1)<SUP>2 </SUP>= 2.1U
Bet 3 = U(2.1)<SUP>3 </SUP>= 4.41U
Bet 4 = U(2.1)<SUP>4 </SUP>= 9.26U
Bet 5 = U(2.1)<SUP>5 </SUP>= 19.45U
Bet 6 = U(2.1)<SUP>6 </SUP>= 40.84U
Total (Bankroll) = U + U(2.1)<SUP>2</SUP> + U(2.1)<SUP>3</SUP> + U(2.1)<SUP>4</SUP> + U(2.1)<SUP>5 </SUP>= 77.06U. Therefore, this system requires a 77.06 Units of bankroll if you are to do 1 unit bets.

Tip for dummies:If you have a certain bankroll (lets say £1000) and want to calculate the starting bet amount, divide the bankroll by 77.06 (so the starting bet amount is 1000/77.06=£12.98). On the other hand, if you want to calculate the required bankroll for a certain starting bet amount, multiply your starting bet amount by 77.06 (for example, if you want to do £15 bets, you would require a bankroll of £15*77.06=£1155.9)
A failed session (6 bet losing streak) would cost us 77.06 units. Therefore, a successful session is when we gain 77.06 units without losing 6 in a row.​

Rules of the system:

• Bet only on events with 1.91 (-110) or better odds. Do not randomly pick games with 1.91 (-110) or better odds. Always handicap the game and find the edge--play the side that has a win estimation of 50% or better. Best way to maximize profit is to bet on good underdog odds with a win estimation of 50% or better.
• All bet amounts are for "risk", i.e. use the unit amount given in the bet table (bet1=1unit, bet 2=2.1units, bet3=4.41units, bet4=9.26units, bet5=19.45units, bet6=40.84units) regardless of the odd.
• Bet on the next game only after you are sure about the result of the previous bet. Whenever a bet wins, the next bet amount is bet 1 (1 unit). Whenever a bet is cancelled or voided, repeat the same bet amount on the next bet. Whenever a bet loses, use the progression until you win. If you ever encounter a six game losing streak, start over with a new bankroll.
• Do not change your unit amount until you have completed a successful session. For example, if you start at 1 unit = £10 with a bankroll of £770.60, you should remain at 1 unit = £10 until your bankroll is doubled (1 successful session). Now that you have double the capital, you may increase your unit size to £20 or you may withdraw half your earnings and increase your unit size to £15. Once you start with the increased unit size and bankroll, you should wait until you complete a successful session with the new unit size and bankroll before increasing it again. It is recommended that you select a desired unit amount and stick to it forever instead of increasing it after each successful session--increasing strategy is for those who don't have big bankroll to start right away at big unit size. It is highly recommended that you go no more than 1 unit = £100.
• Play only at safe and reliable sportsbooks. I highly recommend using Pinnacle and Bookmaker when you play my picks because both of those books grade wagers really quickly. They also have the best odds and the highest betting limits in the industry.
• Never randomly pick a game. Always cap your games and play only valuable bets with good odds. It is highly recommended that you use my picks to minimize risk and to maximize profit and minimize failiure.

Success to the system depends on the ratio of gaining every 77.06 units to having a 6 game losing streak. By playing under dog odds, this can be used for profit. Just test your own picks with 1unit=$1

 

[tld1962]

This sounds fine for beginners, but I prefer my special “Birthday Bazookas” system. Let’s say your birthday is February 21, 1965, or 2/21/65. Your first bet is 2 units, and if you win, you then bet another 2, then 1, then 6, then 5. But any time you lose, you go back to the beginning and bet 2.
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If you ever win all five in a row without having to start over, then you make one big bet equal to the hottest girlfriend of your life’s chest measurement. So if she was a 40-26-38, then it would be a 40 unit play. Win or lose that, you start over.
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The key is I only recommend the system when you’re betting moneyline underdogs that have at least a 55% chance of winning straight up. You never want to just randomly pick games. In fact, your best course of action would be to purchase my Super Duper 5 Star picks to use with the “Birthday Bazookas” system.
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This system is absolutely mathematically sound, but I won’t bore you with a lot of complicated calculations you wouldn’t understand anyway. Instead, I suggest testing the system in real life to see how you do. I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised. And if you do have success with it, feel free to contact me and (for an additional small fee) I’ll set you up with my even more sophisticated “SAT score, even/odd, penis size, reverse triple up” system.

 

[99steak]

Last 2 weeks SERIES 1: sep 11 to sep 24

Notice how during the ncaa and nfl time, majority of the plays are underdog moneylines, some of themr eally huge. that is why when you dont want to use the system you can still bet these games flat for equal amounts for a good ROI. when you bet them straight without the system, the void games are not void unless it was void because of postponed games.

Bet #1778: Sep 11: MLB: Kansas C - Minnesota
Pitchers: Ducksworth & Liriano
Kansas city +1.5 (2.27) Won +5.60 units

Bet #1779: Sep 11: MLB: Milwaukee - Philadelph
Pitchers: List Sheets & Moyer
Philly win (2.09) Won +1.09 units

Bet #1780: Sep 11: MLB: San Diego - San Francis
Pitchers: List Cain & Geer
San Diego win (2.18) Won +1.18 units

Bet #1781: Sep 12: MLB: Minnesota - Baltimore
Pitchers: List Baker & Cabrera
Baltimore win (2.40) Void +0 units (game postponed)

Bet #1782: Sep 12: MLB: Seattle - LAA Angels
Pitchers: Saunders & Rowland-Smith
LAA Angels -1.5 (2.34) Won +1.34 units

Bet #1783: Sep 13: NCAAF: California - Maryland
Maryland win (6.16) Won +5.16 units

Bet #1784: Sep 13: NCAAF: S Carolina - Georgia
South Carolina win (3.48) Lost -1 unit

Bet #1785: Sep 13: NCAAF: Memphis - Marshal
Memphis win (2.58) Lost -2.1 units

Bet #1786: Sep 13: NCAAF: Wisconsi - Fresno St
Fresno St win (2.10) Lost -4.41 units

Bet #1787: Sep 14: NFL: Green Bay - Detroit
Detroit win (2.50) Lost -9.26 units

Bet #1788: Sep 14: NFL: San Diego - Denver
San Diego win (2.03) Lost -19.45 units

Bet #1789: Sep 14: NFL: Pittsburgh - Cleveland
Cleveland +6 (2.02) Won +41.66 units

Bet #1790: Sep 15: MLB: Detroit - Texas
Pitchers: McCarthy & Willis
Texas -1.5 (2.37) Won +1.37 units

Bet #1791: Sep 16: MLB: Minnesota - Cleveland
Pitchers: List Jackson & Liriano
Cleveland win (2.57) Won +1.57 units

Bet #1792: Sep 16: MLB: Oakland - LAA Angels
Pitchers: List Lackey & Gallagher
Oakland win (2.36) Void +0 units (bet 1791 did not finish on time)

Bet #1793: Sep 17: MLB: San Francisco - Arizona
Pitchers: List Webb & Sanchez
San Francisco win (3.00) Lost -1 unit
<HR>Bet #1794: Sep 18: MLB: LA Dodgers - Pittsburgh
Pitchers: List Kershaw & Maholm
Pittsburgh win (2.16)Lost -2.1 units

Bet #1795: Sep 18: MLB: St. Louis - Cincinnati
Pitchers: List Lohse & Volquez
St. Louis win (2.27) Won +6.60 units

Bet #1796: Sep 19: WNBA: Detroit - Indiana
Indiana win (2.27) Lost -1 unit

Bet #1797: Sep 19: MLB: Seattle - Oakland
Pitchers: List Hernandez & Eveland
Seattle win (2.16) Lost -2.1 units

Bet #1798: Sep 20: NCAAF: Troy - Ohio St
Troy win (10.40) Lost -4.41 units

Bet #1799: Sep 20: NCAAF: Virg Tech-N Carolina
Virgnia Tech win (2.40) Won +12.96 units

Bet #1800: Sep 20: NCAAF: Toledo - Fresno St
Fresno St -7 (1.91) Lost -1 unit

Bet #1801: Sep 21: NFL: Carolina - Minnesota
Carolina +3.5 (1.91) Lost -2.1 units

Bet #1802: Sep 21: NFL: Pittsburgh - Philadelphia
Philadelphia -3.5 (1.91) Won +4.01 units

Bet #1803: Sep 22: MLB: Detroit - Kansas City
Pitchers: Miner & Meche
Detroit -1.5 (2.72) Lost -1 unit

Bet #1804: Sep 23: MLB: GM 1: TamBay- Baltimo
Pitchers: List Olson & Shields
Baltimore win (2.48) Lost -2.1 unit

Bet #1805: Sep 23: MLB: GM 2: TamBay- Baltimo
Pitchers: List Talbot & Simon
Baltimore win (2.21) Lost -4.41 units

Bet #1806: Sep 24: MLB: Chicago C - NY Mets
Pitchers: List Zambrano & Perez
Chicago Cubs win (2.20) Won +11.12 units

Bet #1807: Sep 24: MLB: LAA Angels - Seattle
Pitchers: List Hernandez & Garland
LAA Angels win (2.20) Void +0 units (1806 did not fnish on time)
<HR>

Last 2 weeks: Series 2 Sep 11 to sep 24


Bet #383: Sep 11: MLB: Kansas City - Minnesota
Pitchers: Liriano & Ducksworth
Under 8.5 (2.03) Won +4.54 units

Bet #384: Sep 11: MLB: Cleveland - Baltimore
Pitchers: Bass & Jackson
Baltimore -1.5 (2.78) Won +1.78 units

Bet #385: Sep 11: MLB: Texas - Oakland
Pitchers: Nippert & Braden
Texas win (2.13) Won +1.13 units

Bet #386: Sep 12: MLB: Toronto - Boston
Pitchers: List Purcey & Wakefield
Toronto win (2.37) Lost -1 unit

Bet #387: Sep 12: MLB: Texas - Oakland
Pitchers: List Harrison & Smith
Texas win win (2.21) Void +0 units (bet 386 did not finish on time)

Bet #388: Sep 13: NCAAF: Toledo - Est Michigan
Toledo win (2.24) Won +2.60 units

Bet #389: Sep 13: NCAAF: Georg Tech - Virg Tec
Georgia Tech win (3.24) Lost -1 unit

Bet #390: Sep 13: NCAAF: S Mississ - Ark St
S Mississippi win (2.21) Won +2.54 units

Bet #391: Sep 14: NFL: Tennessee - Cincinnati
Tennessee win (2.06) Won +1.06 units

Bet #392: Sep 14: NFL: New England - NY Jets
New England win (2.00) Won + 1 unit

Bet #393: Sep 15: NFL: Philadelphia - Dallas
Philadelphia win (3.48) Lost -1 unit

Bet #394: Sep 16: MLB: Colorado - San Diego
Pitchers: Estes & Jimenez
Colorado -1.5 (2.27) Won +2.67 units

Bet #395: Sep 17: MLB: Pittsburgh - LA Dodgers
Pitchers: List Billingsley & Duke
Pittsburgh win (2.64) Won +1.64 units

Bet #396: Sep 17: MLB: LAA Angels - Oakland
Pitchers: Smieth & Weaver
LAA Angels -1.5 (2.53) Void +0 units (Bet 395 did not finish on time)
<HR>Bet #397: Sep 18: MLB: LAA Angels - Oakland
Pitchers: Saunders & Outman
LAA Angels -1.5 (2.45) Won +1.45 units

Bet #398: Sep 18: MLB: Minnesota - Tampa Bay
Pitchers: Perkins & Shields
Tampa Bay -1.5 (2.37) Lost -1 unit

Bet #399: Sep 19: MLB: Philadelphia - Florida
Pitchers: List Johnson & Myers
Florida win (2.22) Won +2.56 units

Bet #400: Sep 19: MLB: San Franci - LA Dodgers
Pitchers: Maddux & Zito
LA Dodgers -1.5 (2.17) Lost -1 unit

Bet #401: Sep 20: NCAAF: NC State - E Carolina
NC State win (3.43) Won +5.10 units

Bet #402: Sep 20: NCAAF: Rutgers - Navy
Navy win (2.90) Won +1.90 units

Bet #403: Sep 20: NCAAF: Kent St - UL Lafayette
Kent St win (2.18) Lost -1 unit

Bet #404: Sep 21: NFL: Arizona - Washington
Arizona win (2.58) Lost -2.1 units

Bet #405: Sep 21: NFL: Cleveland - Baltimore
Baltimore -3 (2.00) Won +4.41 units

Bet #406: Sep 21: NFL: Green Bay - Dallas
Green Bay win (2.47) Lost -1 unit

Bet #407: Sep 22: MLB: Atlanta - Philadelphia
Pitchers: List Happ & Jurrjens
Atlanta win (2.51) Lost -2.1 units

Bet #408: Sep 22: MLB: LAA Angels - Seattle
Pitchers: List Rowland-Smith & Santana
Seattle win (2.34) Lost -4.41 units

Bet #409: Sep 23: MLB: Boston - Cleveland
Pitchers: List Lee & Wakefield
Boston win (2.02) Won +9.45 units

Bet #410: Sep 23: MLB: LAA Angels - Seattle
Pitchers: List Weaver & Feierabend
Seattle win (2.30) Won +1.3 units

Bet #411: Sep 24: MLB: Texas - Oakland
Pitchers: Harrison & Eveland
Texas -1.5 (2.62) Won +1.62 units

Bet #412: Sep 24: MLB: Kansas City - Detroit
Pitchers: Bannister & Robertson
Detroit -1.5 (2.55) Lost -1 unit

Bet #413: Sep 24: MLB: Colorado - San Francisco
Pitchers: List Hernandez & Sanchez
Colorado win (2.26) Won +2.65 units
<HR>

 

[yellowman]

Interesting thing...if you think of it as flipping a coin (50/50 prop with heads being a win and tails being a loss)...you would expect to have a run of 6 straight tails 1 out of every 64 trials (assuming you stop each trial when you hit a heads - win)...that is of course with a 50/50 prop...betting dog MLs etc is definitely not a 50/50 prop, so I would expect that the rate of hitting 6 straight losses would be a little higher than 1 in 64...of course the system rewards plays a little better with the >1 unit won per unit waged, so that is the tradeoff. I think this system is intriguing, although I still think this guy is whistling past the graveyard and has been pretty lucky so far. Just my opinion.

 

[nyyanks]

I give the guy credit for good picks, and that is why the system seems like it is good. It is the picks, not the system. If he makes bad picks overall, he will loose. I understand it isn't a full progressive system, but that doesn't change the fact that no system can produce a winning career without winning picks.

 

[Santo]

It sounds very much like the "SportsBettingChamp" system which has been panned on European forums for a few years now.

 

[99steak]

It sounds very much like the "SportsBettingChamp" system which has been panned on European forums for a few years now.

sportsbettingchamp system is not really a system. it is a marketing campaign for beted sportsbook. but on the surface, it looks like the guy is selling a system.

the system itself is a very simple rule to bet on mlb. you dont get that many plays with this system. there are favourites, sometimes big favaourites. it has failed couple of times this year. the guy keeps changing his rules to the system every time it fails, so that it looks like it hasnt failed.

but overall, its just a campaign for beted sportsbook. beded got truck load of europeans to sign up to their book through that campaign.

 

[Santo]

I think it was BetUS rather than BetED, but agree otherwise.

 

[99steak]

ya one of those books. i dont use any of those third string books, so i didnt even know those were 2 different books.

 

[99steak]

Crazy week for the mrmartingale's system picks with Series 2. sixth bet won with about +190 odds was huge.


Bet #414: Sep 25: MLB: Boston - Cleveland
Pitchers: List Lester & Sowers
Cleveland win (2.50)
This is a 1 unit bet because the bet before this was a winner.
Risked 1 unit to win 1.50 units
lost -1 unit

Bet #415: Sep 25: MLB: LAA Angels - Seattle
Pitchers: List Mosley & Jimenez
Seattle win (2.03)
risked 2.1 units to win 2.16 units
lost -2.1 units

Bet #416: Sep 26: MLB: Tampa Bay - Detroit
Pitchers: List Sonnanstine & Verlander
Tampa Bay win (2.10)
risked 4.41 units to win 4.85 units
lost -4.41 units

Bet #417: Sep 26: MLB: LA Dodgers - San Francisco
Pitchers: List Hennessey & Lowe
San Francisco -1.5 (3.12)
risked 9.26 units to win 19.63 units
lost -9.26 units I THOUGHT THIS WAS A POOR PICK BECAUSE ITS THE 4TH BET AND HE GOES WITH A HOME RUNLINE. WHEN THIS LOSS HAPPENED I THOUGHT IT IS A SIGN OF DOOM AND THAT SIXTH LOSS WAS COMING. BUT I STAYED FAITHFUL TO THE SYSTEM AND HIS PICKS AND CONTINUED.

Bet #418: Sep 27: NCAAF: Duke - Virginia
Virgnia win (3.43)
Risked 19.41 units to win 47.26 units
lost -19.45 units by now i am really panicking because the sixth game is a doggy, but i continued following.

Bet #419: Sep 27: NCAAF: Michigan - Wisconsin
Michigan win (2.95)
6tH bet!!!!!!
risked 40.84 units to win 79.64 units
WON +79.64 UNITS

Bet #420: Sep 27: NCAAF: San Jose St - Hawaii
San Jose St win (2.29)
risked 1 unit to win 1.29 units
won +1.29 units


PEOPLE WHO STARTED THIS WEEK WOULD HAVE HAD A MASSIVE EMOTIONAL SWING. BUT VERY HAPPY AT THE END. Thats 44.71 units in profit just only half way through the week. ofcourse this doesnt happen often but this is why this system is exciting and profitable. playing these dogs. these dogs increases the rate of bankroll doubling when it hits as 3rd, 4th, 5th, or 6th bet.

 

[Undefeated77]

how about this?

What if you found a way to pick only -110 picks about 50% of the
time and you never used any picks that go up into the + range like
+110 or +130 etc.??? Could you still do well with it?

 

[Akillies]

since when are tots allowed to advertise on the front page

 

[PatrickMcIrish]

THIS IS INCREDIBLE! NEVER HEARD OF ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO LOSE!!!

 

[Undefeated77]

question

Does he suggest that we only have one string going at a time if starting
off with say $10 in a $1,000 account?

Does he dissuade his followers from going with two $10 start offs in a
$1,000 account and encourage you to just do one string of betting
progression?

The risk in doing two is having both of them going up five or six times
with no wins versus working with only one that does that.

Thanks, Undefeated77

 

[99steak]

undefeated,

if you use only 1.91 (-110) odds, it wont be successfull because you will gain only about 1 unit after each win. When you use + odds, the gain is much higher when you hit a bet later in the progression. For a good example, take a look at last weeks picks in his records page. With series two he went 5 wins 9 lossess, but the profit was over 50 units because the bets won were later in the progression with huge odds.

so if you just do -110 odds the bankroll will grow very slowly and it will take much longer to double your bankroll. When you play big odds, you will double your bankroll very rapidly and when a failure comes you would still be in good profit.

He says that you must have 77.06 units reserved to use this system. So if you do one string of bets with 77.06 units and want to do another string at the same time then you must have another 77.06 reserved for the second string of bets. He does 2 strings of picks (he calls them series 1 and series 2).

 

[99steak]

Does he suggest that we only have one string going at a time if starting
off with say $10 in a $1,000 account?

Does he dissuade his followers from going with two $10 start offs in a
$1,000 account and encourage you to just do one string of betting
progression?

The risk in doing two is having both of them going up five or six times
with no wins versus working with only one that does that.

Thanks, Undefeated77

To do $1 bets you need a $77.06 bankroll. So to do $10 bets you will need $770.6 bankroll. You cannot do two strings of bets in a $1000 account because you need $770.5*2 to do two strings of $10 bets.

 

[99steak]

i have a feeling series 1 might encounter a 6 game losing streak this weekend. he released the picks for friday through sunday and some of the picks are crazy.

he is entering friday with 0 game losing streak and here is what he sent:

Bet #1824: Oct 3: MLB: Chicago WS - Tampa Bay
Pitchers: Buehrle & Kazmir
Tampa Bay -1.5 (2.25)

Bet #1825: Oct 4: SCR: German Bundesliga 1
Hoffenheim - Eintracht Frankfurt
Draw (3.77)

Bet #1826: Oct 4: NCAAF: Minnesota - Indiana
Indiana win (3.33)

Bet #1827: Oct 4: NCAAF: Kentucky - Alabama
Kentucky win (6.10)

Bet #1828: Oct 4: MLB: Chicago Cubs - LA Dodgers
Pitchers: List Krudoa & Harden
LA Dodgers win (2.24)

Bet #1829: Oct 5: SCR: Italian Serie A
Udinese - Torino
Draw (3.54)

Bet #1830: Oct 5: SCR: Spanish (premier) La Liga
Osasuna - Racing Santander
Osasuna win (2.13)

Bet #1831: Oct 5: NFL: Houston - Indianapolis
Houston +3 (2.05)

Bet #1832: Oct 5: NFL: Buffalo - Arizona
ARizona -1.5 (1.91)