line opened at 9.....closed at 6....some places 5.5 but most had 6
i believe a lot of these NBA games are rigged in final minute. You see quick whistle or no whistle.....you see teamd guard the rim and not guard the rim on last possession....pending on what number they wanna hit.
Again, I think it's played straight up until the winner is decided....then spread nonsense comes into play
I hear you but there's no shot. Because what's the incentive? These refs get paid good money reffing honest. If the refs have money on a side why wait until the last 10 seconds to rig It? Why not rig it the whole game to ensure you got what you wanted. Because if they let them play straight up until a winner is decided what if the wrong winner is covering by a lot? It just doesn't make sense. Game 6 lakers kings as the youtube title states is the greatest sports tragedy of all time. Nothing compares to that. Shit went on non stop
Vit take a backwards step. You're off on this one.
You know I agree with your general premise and YES, NBA games with Lines of 6 to 9 are the most commonly rigged games AFTER the SU outcome is no longer in doubt. But you can't call somethning Fixed when it's a 30+ foot shot at the end where a layup would have produ$ed the same outcome. If it was definitely rigged there would have been no foul vs Harden. I've seen 4 point games when the last 6 seconds were ticked off with no fouls. Maybe the crowd groaned because they didn't want Harden to get 50. Maybe they cheered the last Sixer hoop out of habit (they hit a long 3).
You can pretty much remove the refs and coaches from the fix-fraternity here. These players all know each other. You want to rig a game and the spread is 7 and the favorite leads by 7 with 20-30 seconds left it's a piece of cake.
If you want the Dog to cash have the Dog foul a poor FT shooter on each possession who will deliberately clang FT#1. After he goes 1for2 or 0for2 give the ball to the PG on the Dog and let him drive in for a layup (while the coach of the 'Winning' team yells, "No Fouls! No Fouls!" Shake hands and bro hug after the game lands 5-6.
If you want the favorite to cash foul their best FT shooter every time. Then after he converts pass it to a guy who never shoots 3s. After he airballs and the Favorite rebounds all you have to do here is not foul if the margin is 8+ and foul if it isn't. If it's 8+ at 30 seconds or less the favorite doesn't even need to shoot. Bring it over halfcourt and dribble the shotclock out. Then the Dog's PG can dribble out the final 3-5 seconds in the backcourt.
Crazy Shit I've seen:
About 10 years ago the Raptors were +2 vs the Sixers, down by 3 with 3 seconds left. After a Timeout the Raptors inbounded and drove for a dunk a 'lost' by 1 point!
About 3 years ago the Sixers were +8.5 at Milwaukee. They trailed by 8 with 20 seconds to go. 8 players stood around while Jrue Holiday chased Brandon Jennings until he caught him and ran him over with 14 seconds left. After Jennings made both FTs Jrue yelled for the ball. He raced across halfcourt, then stopped and dribbled out the last 10 seconds. Scumbag!
Nick Van Exel was once caught by a TNT mic telling a Blazer opponent "GLASS" before heaving his freethrow off the very top of the backboard. Portland rebounded and drove for the final basket, a layup that covered the +7 after they had trailed by 25 with 6 minutes left.
You know I agree with your general premise and YES, NBA games with Lines of 6 to 9 are the most commonly rigged games AFTER the SU outcome is no longer in doubt. But you can't call somethning Fixed when it's a 30+ foot shot at the end where a layup would have produ$ed the same outcome. If it was definitely rigged there would have been no foul vs Harden. I've seen 4 point games when the last 6 seconds were ticked off with no fouls. Maybe the crowd groaned because they didn't want Harden to get 50. Maybe they cheered the last Sixer hoop out of habit (they hit a long 3).
You can pretty much remove the refs and coaches from the fix-fraternity here. These players all know each other. You want to rig a game and the spread is 7 and the favorite leads by 7 with 20-30 seconds left it's a piece of cake.
If you want the Dog to cash have the Dog foul a poor FT shooter on each possession who will deliberately clang FT#1. After he goes 1for2 or 0for2 give the ball to the PG on the Dog and let him drive in for a layup (while the coach of the 'Winning' team yells, "No Fouls! No Fouls!" Shake hands and bro hug after the game lands 5-6.
If you want the favorite to cash foul their best FT shooter every time. Then after he converts pass it to a guy who never shoots 3s. After he airballs and the Favorite rebounds all you have to do here is not foul if the margin is 8+ and foul if it isn't. If it's 8+ at 30 seconds or less the favorite doesn't even need to shoot. Bring it over halfcourt and dribble the shotclock out. Then the Dog's PG can dribble out the final 3-5 seconds in the backcourt.
Crazy Shit I've seen:
About 10 years ago the Raptors were +2 vs the Sixers, down by 3 with 3 seconds left. After a Timeout the Raptors inbounded and drove for a dunk a 'lost' by 1 point!
About 3 years ago the Sixers were +8.5 at Milwaukee. They trailed by 8 with 20 seconds to go. 8 players stood around while Jrue Holiday chased Brandon Jennings until he caught him and ran him over with 14 seconds left. After Jennings made both FTs Jrue yelled for the ball. He raced across halfcourt, then stopped and dribbled out the last 10 seconds. Scumbag!
Nick Van Exel was once caught by a TNT mic telling a Blazer opponent "GLASS" before heaving his freethrow off the very top of the backboard. Portland rebounded and drove for the final basket, a layup that covered the +7 after they had trailed by 25 with 6 minutes left.
I saw Charles Barkley take a ball over halfcourt and dribble out the last 20+ seconds by his team's bench when the Sixers were +6 and down by 7.
On the very next night they covered as a dog when he drove the length of the court for a jam in the same situation. Charles always knew the ATS.
By the way the "Win-Non-Cover" scenario above occurs a lot when the Home Favorite is playing with Revenge. Bettors can't resist revenge and will often get clipped in these scenarios when the avenging team Wins but loses their cash.
On the very next night they covered as a dog when he drove the length of the court for a jam in the same situation. Charles always knew the ATS.
By the way the "Win-Non-Cover" scenario above occurs a lot when the Home Favorite is playing with Revenge. Bettors can't resist revenge and will often get clipped in these scenarios when the avenging team Wins but loses their cash.
If you believe there is no outside influence on NBA basketball games (and other sports), you have to also believe a few other things.
Does that mean the Rockets game was fixed the other night? No. Was it possibly fixed. Hell yes. Nothing to do though except hope you're on the right side of the fix.
- There was ONLY ONE rogue referee, in ONLY ONE sport, and they caught him.
- This referee, Donaghy, stood up to the mafia for the integrity of the game and wouldn't actually fix games for them.
- Despite its having been exposed several times in the past, mafia influence is no longer an issue.
- People with former mafia ties who tell us they are still involved are not only lying, they're putting their lives on the line to tell lies.
Does that mean the Rockets game was fixed the other night? No. Was it possibly fixed. Hell yes. Nothing to do though except hope you're on the right side of the fix.
I had Houston too.
I used to think games weren't "influenced". Fixed is too strong. I've heard that the players absolutely know the lines and manipulate them. Most of them are totals, they are very easy to manipulate.
You think its great halftime adjustments when you see a team score 118 then 86 the 2H? Or 88 in the 1H then 120 the 2H??
They will speed the game up or slow it down when needed. Foul or not foul depending on the need. 2 on 1 breaks and they will pull the ball out and run clock.
I'm not saying it happens all the time, but the more I watch these outcomes the more it really makes me wonder. I used to swear up and down it didn't happen. Now, i'm not so sure.
I used to think games weren't "influenced". Fixed is too strong. I've heard that the players absolutely know the lines and manipulate them. Most of them are totals, they are very easy to manipulate.
You think its great halftime adjustments when you see a team score 118 then 86 the 2H? Or 88 in the 1H then 120 the 2H??
They will speed the game up or slow it down when needed. Foul or not foul depending on the need. 2 on 1 breaks and they will pull the ball out and run clock.
I'm not saying it happens all the time, but the more I watch these outcomes the more it really makes me wonder. I used to swear up and down it didn't happen. Now, i'm not so sure.
Other things influence halftime scoring too. Like teams getting off to slow starts and emphasizing getting easy buckets in the 2h during the break. Or certain teams choose to shoot against their bench in the first half in order to shoot with their bench/coach in the 2h. Those are influences. Also there is no other sport more influenced by travel in the world of sports. So put that in perspective when thinking rigged. Some teams don't ever plan to show up in the first place because of schedule bias....they arent going to tell anyone that but its the truth. Not because they know the total or spread. But because it is better for the long term of the team. Most of the guys who even would try to rig it or tip off the mafia or whatever, those guys don't even get the time on the court to be put in position to do that in the NBA. And why would they? When getting paid millions living the dream.
I used to scream everything was fixed now I know it when I see it. If you are saying the players knowing the spread or total is fixing or influenced then not sure what you expect. The players are suppose to influence the spread and total lol. That's the gambling part. If you can make the shot, take the shot. I've seen players so disrespect and shoot the ball last second many of times...and not all of those games were rigged.
I saw one player try to dribble out the clock in a college game and go to shake the players hand and the defender faked the hand shake and stole the ball and went in for a layup.
I used to scream everything was fixed now I know it when I see it. If you are saying the players knowing the spread or total is fixing or influenced then not sure what you expect. The players are suppose to influence the spread and total lol. That's the gambling part. If you can make the shot, take the shot. I've seen players so disrespect and shoot the ball last second many of times...and not all of those games were rigged.
I saw one player try to dribble out the clock in a college game and go to shake the players hand and the defender faked the hand shake and stole the ball and went in for a layup.
Also why does every nfl coach hide player injuries? They don't want to disclose the full information. I just don't believe players or coaches rig anything. Players and coaches manipulate spreads and totals. Yea that is their job lol. But if refs are doing it during the game then I have a problem with that but you can tell when a game might be rigged in the nba. Not any or every ref has the ability to rig shit correctly lol trust me on that. It has to be the old vets who the league feels comfortable getting the job done. Dick Labetta. Not every ref is tim donaghy separately rigging it for his own personal individual benefit. That's a wholllllle different story
