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waz, in trading commodities, each commodity has an overnight margin required to hold the position...... if your account drops below this, you go on margin call.....

Lets look at the emini sp 500..................... there is an initial margin required in your account to put a trade on........... this may vary, i can day trade the emini at my place with only enough money in there to cover my stoploss............... however when you stay overnight, its pretty much cut and dried everywhere....... the board will set the margin because each account is settled daily................ the Overnight margin for one emini sp contract is $3800.......... this means for every contract that your trading, you have to have a minimum of $3800 in your account to stay overnight..... if you fall below this, your firm may call for a bankwire to hold the position open, if you fail to comply, they can settle your position....

however to beat the emini sp 500 margin.......... all you have to do is get out of your position at (3:14 pm cst) one minute before market closes and then simply put it back on at (3:31 pm cst) one minute after market re-opens...... you see at (3:31 cst) you are on the next days trading and that wont go on the books, so you will then have almost 24hrs to hold the position, without having the margin money, simple as that....... this will however cost you another $25rt comm charge......... but its worth it, if you like your position and dont want to be blasted out of a trade......


wednesday jan 9:

low of 1393, high of 1406.50..... currently around (1400), so at the moment im glad that i exited my trade late yesterday........

im going to try and monitor for another selling opportunity....... in looking at the charts, if we get anywhere around (1415) ill become a seller again..

at the moment, i dont want to constantly be in the market....... id rather sit on the sidelines and bide my time........ trying to wait for another layup, like yesterday...........

looks like a little early morning strength..... we will see what the day has to offer............... there will be a little resistance near 1410, then stronger at 1420............ read a daily chart for this info.......
 

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well today (wednesday), consisted of watching the selloff down to 1385 and the short covering rally into an oversold market, back to 1416.50

i now have trade 2 working.........

2. sell 1 march emini 1418.00,,,,,,,,,, this is done with a Sell Limit Order.. this means it must touch or trade thru 1418

the market trades in (0.25 increments).........

if we are filled with our short position, i will place a stoploss order at 1438

there is some resistance right here, just under 1420.......... the 1438 stop is just over yesterdays high of 1437.75...

ok, trade 2 is going to work......... ill post the official trade, once we get filled.........
 

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we are now on to thursdays trading, the market trades with very light volume until the overseas markets re-open in several hours.... the high of this last run up is still 1416.50, so no fill on our working order..........

the order will work overnight for me and ill check it periodically to see if ive been filled......... my broker leaves his office in a couple of hours and the night desk will not call with the fill............

ive got a sell limit order working at 1418.00 and a stoploss (buy stop) sitting at 1438.00,,,,,,, both are working orders, so entire risk on trade is 20pts or $1000...... i strongly believe in placing the stoploss at the same time of the entry order, to protect against loss overnight, in case this market exploded up........

i think we will twist around for the remainder of week, i hope that i get filled short at 1418 and then the grind down begins.....

keep these 2 spots in your mind......... 1437.75 and 1385.00........ those are the lows and highs of the most recent trading runs......... guess which one comes out first......
 

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currently at 1415.25, i need a trade to 1418.25 to enter.......... will check in periodically....... make it come to you, could enter on a market order at anytime, you guys realize that........ im trying not to chase and be content with (2-3) trades per week......
 

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keep these 2 spots in your mind......... 1437.75 and 1385.00........ those are the lows and highs of the most recent trading runs......... guess which one comes out first......

If Initial Claims > 375k, than the low may come out today. Otherwise I expect to see some volatility with rally into OpEx next week, therefore taking out the High. If claims are high and we keep the down trend going I am looking to see if we can convincingly break the 1370ish floor from Aug. Overall I expect the bounce to take us back up to 1445-50 before we really rollover.
 

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desrat, nice thoughts, i appreciate those........

ok, i screwed trade number 2 up............. boys i had an order to sell at 1418 on a limit order, which means its got to get there before i have a sell.. we climbed as high as 1416.50 late yesterday and back to 1415.75 overnight, falling just short of my sell at 1418.....

my mistake was in trying to pick the spot............. i should have just used a market order sell late on wednesday............. but oh well, the market has since sold back off to 1403, as i had anticipated..

ive now canceled my working orders and will contemplate the next move.... but now ive got to hit the gym........ only wish i had time to be a real trader, maybe someday.....

back later with the next opportunity.............. selling into the rallies is what is working at the moment.......... no need to try and switch up, i dont pick bottoms.......

back later.......
 

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trade 2: short 1 march emini 1407.25, stoploss in at 1417.25, profit target for today only at 1390.25

so im risking 10pts ($500) to make 17pts ($850).......... the profit target is a day order only, the stoploss is a GTC order.....

back later, need a drop....
 

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boys i got drilled on this one............. great day for daytraders but it was a classic "whipsaw" day for me.........

tornado's headed my way, im on the sidelines and out for the day.........

trade 1: +38pts (+$1900)
trade 2: -10pts (-$500)

no orders working.......
 

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Love reading this stuff SSI.

I always have read this, but never understood it. Even though I don't know how the market is working I can actually understand what you are saying now, it's a great feeling! I have been studying my ass off and it is definitely paying off!
 

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just continue to sell into every rally.......

i expect a blood bath this week.........
 

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