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kids with cell phones are a big problem. my daughters friend who is 16 dropped his phone while driving, bent down to pick it up, lost control of the car and hit a tree. had to be cut out and is now in a wheelchair for life.
kid had a 4.7 in school and was going to college on a scholarship for sports, all gone because of a stupid phone.
 

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Good law. I've got a bluetooth hands-free link. I would never use my hands for the cell phone while driving. Too dangerous. And I'm a good driver and I can handle it. Most morons outs there can't drive with two hands and two eyes. Give them a cell phone and my life is in imminent peril. Pay attention to the fucking road assholes.
 

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I was behind someone and she was on the phone and had a clipboard on the stearing wheel and was writing something while driving. It's only a $25 fine for the 1st time and a lot of drivers will wait till they get caught. $25 is nothing to people in calif.
 

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kids with cell phones are a big problem. my daughters friend who is 16 dropped his phone while driving, bent down to pick it up, lost control of the car and hit a tree. had to be cut out and is now in a wheelchair for life.
kid had a 4.7 in school and was going to college on a scholarship for sports, all gone because of a stupid phone.

:WTF: is a 4.7? when i went to school a 4.0 was the top grade

and are you sure that the cell phone casued the crash and not his mistake of taking his eyes off the road
 

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I haven't seen cheapseats get this fired up, since a poster referencing 'McDonalds.'
 

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You can do what ever you want too.

Stop listening to what Congress tells you you can and can't do.

I've been making my own laws for years. For example,. i don't have car insurance because I knows it's a big scam and I have saved thousands because of this.

You have to deicide for yourself what is a law and what isn't. The government has proved they aren't bright enough to do this.

Come on they "work" 2 months of the year and in that time, they mess with if an NFL coach is stealing signals and who in MLB took steroids 10 years ago and now its time to mess with if fags should be married or not.

You decide what is law. That is a democracy

Can't say as there's much in the above post with which I could disagree.
 

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this is the most ridiculous statement I have ever read.. if i did not have car insurance I would be completely fucked having had two cars totaled from other peoples mistakes.. sure there are dumb laws and scams, but anyone who had been in a major accident is thankful for insurance.

Ayuh, but for those of us who have peaceably ignored the purchase of automobile insurance for upwards of 10 years (with a few random months of purchase in that time) and not had any collisions or need for a claim, it's a pretty sweet savings of near $20K - coincidentally about the amount it cost to buy my wife's current 2003 model Toyota Camry three years ago.
 

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kids with cell phones are a big problem. my daughters friend who is 16 dropped his phone while driving, bent down to pick it up, lost control of the car and hit a tree. had to be cut out and is now in a wheelchair for life.
kid had a 4.7 in school and was going to college on a scholarship for sports, all gone because of a stupid phone.

Obviously if the dead kid had been a high school dropout, you would have noted that as well.

Meanwhile, the problem in your anecdotal case was not "talking on a cell phone". It was "bending over to pick something off the floor of the car while driving".
 

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I rarely use my cellphone while driving on accounta I've got my hands full trying to eat my chicken nuggets, drink my Big Gulp and read the sports page while steering with my knees.
 

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Obviously if the dead kid had been a high school dropout, you would have noted that as well.

Meanwhile, the problem in your anecdotal case was not "talking on a cell phone". It was "bending over to pick something off the floor of the car while driving".

i don't think the kid is dead. unless youre implying that people with wheelchairs are basically dead already
 

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I overlooked the part about the wheelchair because my cell phone rang just as I was reading the post.
 

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kids with cell phones are a big problem. my daughters friend who is 16 dropped his phone while driving, bent down to pick it up, lost control of the car and hit a tree. had to be cut out and is now in a wheelchair for life.
kid had a 4.7 in school and was going to college on a scholarship for sports, all gone because of a stupid phone.


no its gone because hes book smart with no common sense
 

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But a good lesson was learned never drop your phone.


kids with cell phones are a big problem. my daughters friend who is 16 dropped his phone while driving, bent down to pick it up, lost control of the car and hit a tree. had to be cut out and is now in a wheelchair for life.
kid had a 4.7 in school and was going to college on a scholarship for sports, all gone because of a stupid phone.
 

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Washington state going with the cell tax, as well. My crappy state of Oregon will soon jump on the bandwagon.

New Wash. law bans hand-held phones while driving

By MANUEL VALDES, Associated Press Writer Sun Jun 29, 2:33 PM ET

SEATTLE - Driving with one hand on the wheel and the other on a cell phone is no longer an option for Washington state drivers.
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On Tuesday, they join more than 28 million others nationwide who have to hang up their cell phones or use hands-free devices. Violators can face a $124 ticket.

"We'll continue to see more legislation as more devices go in a car," said Matt Sundeen, who has monitored cell phone laws for the National Conference of State Legislatures. "A lot of people agree these types of devices are distracting, but the real question is — are they so distracting they need some type of restriction?"

California and Washington are just the latest states to enact laws that prohibit the use of hand-held cell phones while driving. Both state permit hands-free devices.

This past year, 22 state legislatures considered similar laws, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. A handful of states — like New York and New Jersey — already have laws in place. Lawmakers in Louisiana recently sent a bill to the governor's desk.

But traffic-safety advocates say the new laws will have little impact.

"Laws like Washington's probably will have a big effect on making people feel good about passing a law but zero effect on highway safety," said Russ Rader, a spokesman for the Virginia-based Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.

However, the new laws could have a big effect on businesses that sell headsets and related projects.

In an investors report issued last week, analysts at Morgan Keegan said they expect a revenue increase of at least $12 million in sales from California and Washington from June into August for Plantronics Inc., a California-based headset manufacturer.

A study by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety found that drivers using cell phones are four times more likely to be in an accident. That study suggested that limiting cell phone usage to hands-free devices doesn't have much of an effect.

It's the talking that distracts people, traffic-safety advocates say.

"If you continue to allow hands-free phoning, you haven't addressed the safety problem," Rader said.

In 2007, there were more than 141,000 collisions in Washington state, and reports on 158 of them listed "operating" a hand-held device — such as a cell phone or an MP3 player — as a contributing factor, according to the state patrol.

"What we're trying to get across is that when you're driving, you need to be driving," said patrol Sgt. Freddy Williams. "It's going to help keeping both hands on the wheel, but you need to focus on driving, especially at freeway speeds."

New York, the first state to pass a law against hand-held cell phone chatting, issued more than 81,000 tickets in 2002, the first full year the law was in place. By 2007, the number of tickets jumped to more than 312,000, according to the New York Department of Motor Vehicles.

New York State Police Lt. Glenn Minor attributes the increase in tickets to police officers becoming more accustomed to looking for the violation.

In North Carolina, which banned teenagers from using cell phones while driving, cell phone use increased after the law took effect, the insurance institute report said. Teen drivers didn't think the law was being enforced.

Among people on Seattle streets, reaction to the new Washington state law was mixed, although people agreed that using a cell phones is a distraction and may lead to accidents.

"I've been in close calls ... because I was not paying attention," said Tony Championsmith, 55, who bought a headset after his latest close call. "Luckily, the other drivers were paying attention."

But 76-year-old Barry Jackson was disappointed that the new law allows headsets. He said conversation is the distracting factor and that letting people continue talking doesn't help.

"Why have the law then?" Jackson said.
 
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I rarely use my cellphone while driving on accounta I've got my hands full trying to eat my chicken nuggets, drink my Big Gulp and read the sports page while steering with my knees.

Good one!

If someone is 10 mph below the speed limit in front of me and weaving, 90% of the time it's an idiot on a cellphone.
 

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Fellas, just pay the $150 or less needed to fully tint the windows (within local legal limits) and in the daytime it will be very difficult for anyone to see inside your rig. At night, they can't see you with or without tint.

Second preemptive defense is to get a dark colored hair brush and have it next to you on the seat.

If you're pulled over, just lower your hand while closing the real cell phone. When the cop accuses you of cell phoning while driving, show him the brush and tell him you were combing your hair and that he made a mistake.

Most anyone should be able to easily defeat a cell phone while driving charge if you take it to trial - as is your right in nearly any jurisdiction.
 

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Barman, yea, I am actually thinking about going out today and wasting some 4.60/gal driving with cell in hand, and open, just not talking to anybody, to see if I can get pulled over. Tell the chump, not talking and see what happens. Can always get cell record to verify you were not using the phone at the time.
 

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