Duke-St.John's FINAL 2:00 MINUTES....doesn't make sense!!!

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They attempted three 3's the entire game and barley shoot 30% from 3 on the season. Maybe that had something to do with them not jacking 3's.
 

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I emailed the St Johns coach and told him to shoot the 3 next time because Mr FLAVA said so. I hope that helps you out in your next 1000 unit play.
 

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i know what a joke only the clown with the big play on duke seems to think they should have shot 3s. i guess he never played any hoops in his day. they werent conceding the game at all like gelo said they had cut it to 5 late, probably wouldnt have been that close if they went for 3s anyways. anyways if duke got up 12 13 game would hav ejust ended and st johns wouldnt have fouled anyways.
 

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stop being mad that you made a stupid bet. st johns knows they have no chance of winning so they are just trying to score. every level I played basketball at the same thing happened unless the team has a great 3 pt shooter. when its a double digit game late people just start going for stats, especially the losing team knowing they can get easy layups for the most part.


You can't honestly believe this. This is the dumbest post I have ever read on here.
 

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glad I had the Johnnies and for what its worth...they made EVERY layup they took. They scored 10 quick pts at the end off easy layups that Duke wasn't defending. So you are saying they should have hiked up a bunch of forced bad 3's to get some extra points??? So they went 5-5 on those layups....are you saying they would have scored more shooting 5 3s instead?? Well unless they are gonna shoot 80% and make 4/5 thats not gonna happen. Fact of the matter is they needed to score and they needed to score quick. I for one liked the approach they took. They took very high percentage shots and it nearly worked. Instead of losing by 20 (what they would have lost by if they chucked up 4 or 5 bad 3s) they kept it respecatable and lost by 8-10 (forgot final score)...These guys knew they weren't gonna win and as Chase said if you know the game or have played it you would know they knew this and just wanted to pad their stats with some wide open layups...People who took Duke never deserved to win this game. Keep laying 15 on the road
 

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so down by 10 late in games, because you can't shoot threes, you just fold and go for 2's and accept the loss?

get real please


Thats 100% what you do...lets see you have about a 30% chance of making a bad 3 and you have a 85-90% chance of making an uncontested layup...what are you gonna do? All people that have been around the game know this one thing. "Extend the game and you are not out of it"...if you miss a three and foul that is a huge swing...take the uncontested two points, go for a steal and then foul if you don't get it....end of story---It would be a totally different story if Duke was defending the basket and the post, but they weren't ...you would have to be stupid to not take the free uncontested layups
 

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Nobody ever comes back down 10 with 2 minutes left. The teams that jack 3's end up losing by 15 or 20. If they are GIVING you layups, you take them, which duke was. Your best chance to win is to make a bucket every time and try to get a couple steals or missed ft's.
 

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i just got home from msg i was at the wonderful game and i got a nice cover with the over......i would like to throw in my two cents.....st johns has nowhere near the talent that duke has outside of dj kennedy but coach k had duke nurse the lead instead of trying to stretch it out. ....i totally agree with the way st johns played the end of the game.....they had 4 guys foul out and still cut the lead to 5 with their meaningless layups at the end of the game.....if scheyer misses any more free throws or they get a turnover they could have cut it to a one possession game.....the point is any team that comes back in the end of the game does so by extending the game and putting pressure on the other team.....if someone jacks up a three and misses, the game is totally over.....before people complain because they lose a game understand the point of basketball and coaching.....if st johns jacked a 3 when they were down 10 and missed they would have fouled and then after another miss would have just backed off and you still wouldn't have covered....just my two cents



Pretty accurate post.

The reason why you go for 2 points is simple. First, the defense will concede the layup, if you have watched enough hoops, you know players are deathly afraid of fouling a guy going for a layup with a 10 point lead. Also, as stated Duke was guarding the 3 point line.

Honestly, if more teams would stop having a Grevais Vasquez(sp) type idiot on their team jacking up 3s down by 8 with 1:30 left, they would have a better chance of a comeback. As someone also statd, a missed 3 pretty much kills the rally.


Did not apply last night, but you obviously haven't watch Duke over the past 20 years. No team is better at getting quick layups when trailing then Duke. Coach K has drilled into his team that the opponent will let you score a quick bucket if you take it to the hole. Well coached teams always attack the rim when trailing, because unless its Michigan State Circa 1999, they aren't making every FT at the end of the game.

Also, Duke wasn't going to cover the 14. St. John's was down 10 and they scored and started fouling, Duke would have to hit every FT without a miss to even come close and if they game got above 12, SJU probably doesn't foul.

Laying 14 points in a road game was your first problem. I am not trying to attack your play or be critical of it. I mean seriously, what did you think Duke would win by 15, 16, 17, maybe 18, maybe 20 So even if you had SJU, you were going to be in the game until the final minute.
 

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Nobody ever comes back down 10 with 2 minutes left. The teams that jack 3's end up losing by 15 or 20. If they are GIVING you layups, you take them, which duke was. Your best chance to win is to make a bucket every time and try to get a couple steals or missed ft's.

Perfect summary
 

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so down by 10 late in games, because you can't shoot threes, you just fold and go for 2's and accept the loss?

get real please

depends how much time is left. if you can keep scoring easy buckets quickly, then put the other team on the free throw line and they keep missing, then YES! you want to extend the game as long as you can before you are forced to jack up threes.
 

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mista flava- do you ever watch the games you bet your monopoly money on? by this stupid post, it appears you don't. Step away from the PS3 and start watching the games you pretend to bet on.:ohno:
 

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If you watched the Niagara game vs ISU, now you know why SJU did what they did.

ISU missed 7 3 pointers in the final 89 seconds.
 

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