I wish the ACA was a conduit to the real fix our healthcare system needed, single payer, covered by taxes, no employer involvement, everyone's covered. Sadly it's not. What it is a half assed, gutless attempt to fix what was a very broken system, and ultimately it will be that, a net gain for most Americans in providing more complete coverage at lower prices. For some, it will be more expensive. For others less. It fixes some of the previous problems(Pre condition exclusion, not qualified for coverage) There will be stories about more expense, that the right will jump on as representing 100%. There will be stories of less expense and more coverage, which the right will throw out as propaganda, as we see in this thread by the expected suspects, because it doesn't fit their rigid agenda. When some give real life experience of how it helped them, it will be dismissed because it doesn't fit their agenda. That's just how things have evolved, and since they control the media nowadays, they get away with it.
Actually, it would cut the Bureaucracy drastically, as it has in your Country Canada, and all the other Civilized Countries of the world, where it delivers Health Care that is far simpler and less expensive than in the USA. Pity we will likely never see such a simple solution in our lifetimes.
In some things, yes, Socialism is the most effective way to go. Like the NFL, about the most successful Socialist Organization in the US. Pity your CFL isn''t as successful. Most Professional sports are socialist, where striving for Parity is always the desired goal. Luckily, there are always going to be more effective organizations that prosper, and less successful organizations, which will suffer, just like in life. I'm not a Socialist, I'm not a staunch Capitalist, I'm for whatever works best. Usually it's a Combo, depending on the issue.The Guesser: I'm a socialist
Be done with it already.hno:
Your solution (tyranny) will result in an exodus of the best minds and technology in the medical field...the way the US has benefited from socialist models all the over the world.
Guess where all the new breakthrough drugs and medical equipment come from?
Socialized medicine may be "free", but then so is eating out of a trashcan.
Morally and economically, it's simply none of your fucking business to tell a doctor, health practitioner, drug manufacturer etc. how they should run their own businesses.
People who continuously try and outsmart "the market" (free people voluntarily making their own decisions) with their tyrannical pie-in-the-sky 5-10 year "plans" just aren't very bright.
Socialized medicine isn't "free". It's just paid for in a less expensive way, and covers more people. The health care systems in most of the civilized world, Israel, your Country Canada, Germany, England, France, Australia, Switzerland, etc. are far more than 5-10 years plans. They've been working effectively in various degrees for decades.
By "efficient" you mean if a treatment is too expensive and/or not effective enough (works only 30% of the time), it's not available and the patient dies - "death panels" as Sarah Palin called them. That is the moral equivalent of your ricin example.
But what if you could have been the lucky 30%?
Sorry, I want doctors and patients making those decisions, not the government.
It always comes down to the same thing: do you believe in liberty or tyranny?
I believe individuals can and should be persuaded to do "good things"...I DON'T believe anyone should be forced to.
Why does every solution on the left begin and end with force?
Liberal Slate effectively admits Sarah Palin was right: Obamacare will have death panels
http://calwatchdog.com/2013/10/24/liberal-slate-admits-obamacare-will-have-death-panels/
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http://calwatchdog.com/2013/10/24/liberal-slate-admits-obamacare-will-have-death-panels/
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Nope, since Obama Care/ACA isn't Socialized Medicine, there are no Governmental Death panels in the US. What your Country Canada has, may be open to a different interpretation, and if that Dingbat Palin moved to Canada and started living with Rob Ford, she would be where she belongs, and could comment on your County's health care system to her heart's content. You deserve her. And she can probably see Canada from her window.
BOCare is soooooooooooo fucking efficient at keeping costs down that a bailout will likely be needed.
Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius is in Tampa today, Monday, January 13, for an ObamaCare outreach event, and she owes Floridians an answer. Why should taxpayers have to bail out health insurance companies in the increasingly likely event that ObamaCare leaves them with financial losses?
The answer should be simple. Whatever larger differences we have about ObamaCare, we should completely eliminate any chance of a taxpayer-funded bailout for health insurers.
Unfortunately, this possibility exists and is growing more likely by the day.
Washington’s authority for this bailout was buried deep inside ObamaCare, in the law’s section 1342. This provision authorized what are known as risk corridors that limit the amount of profit insurers could extract from the program and, most significantly, limit their losses.
This is government favoritism and corporate cronyism at its worst, and it’s taxpayers that will pay the price unless we stop it.
Now that health insurance companies have begun filing key disclosure documents with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), we see clear evidence that we’re heading for an ObamaCare bailout.
For example, one insurer has disclosed that “as a result of the December 2013 federal and state regulatory changes allowing certain individuals to remain in their previously existing off-exchange health plans, the Company now expects the risk mix of members enrolling through the health insurance exchanges to be more adverse than previously expected.”
By law, health insurers are leveling with their shareholders about how ObamaCare will hurt their bottom line. Now President Obama, Secretary Sebelius and ObamaCare’s supporters should level with American taxpayers about the law’s true costs and eliminate any chance for a bailout.
Unfortunately, we can’t just take the administration’s word that it won’t happen. Congress has to act, and it should approve legislation I’ve introduced to repeal ObamaCare’s risk corridor provision and stop any bailout. At just a page long, my bill is simple but would instantly wipe away the taxpayer's exposure to millions – and potentially billions – of dollars' worth of a bailout for insurance companies.
If the only way ObamaCare works is with a taxpayer-funded bailout of insurers, it’s yet another clear sign that the law can’t survive and isn’t worth saving.
While in office, I have worked with others to protect Americans from ObamaCare's damage – as patients, taxpayers, consumers and workers. While some immediate relief is possible, it's become clear that all of ObamaCare's damage can't be prevented forever, unless the law is repealed and replaced with market-based reforms that will make health care more affordable and accessible for all Americans.
However, this law isn’t simply bad health policy. It has given a dysfunctional Washington that does few things right even more power and control over many aspects of our lives and our economy. It is strangling people’s dreams of a better life for themselves and their children and, in doing so, suffocating the American Dream.
ObamaCare needs to go, but at least in the meantime, Congress needs to protect taxpayers from an ObamaCare bailout of insurers by wiping away this possibility from the law.
Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius is in Tampa today, Monday, January 13, for an ObamaCare outreach event, and she owes Floridians an answer. Why should taxpayers have to bail out health insurance companies in the increasingly likely event that ObamaCare leaves them with financial losses?
The answer should be simple. Whatever larger differences we have about ObamaCare, we should completely eliminate any chance of a taxpayer-funded bailout for health insurers.
Unfortunately, this possibility exists and is growing more likely by the day.
Washington’s authority for this bailout was buried deep inside ObamaCare, in the law’s section 1342. This provision authorized what are known as risk corridors that limit the amount of profit insurers could extract from the program and, most significantly, limit their losses.
Whatever larger differences we have about ObamaCare, we should completely eliminate any chance of a taxpayer-funded bailout for health insurers.
This means that if not enough people sign up for ObamaCare, insurers will lose money and taxpayers will make up the difference. If not enough young and healthy people sign up, as is currently the case, taxpayers will have to pay even more.This is government favoritism and corporate cronyism at its worst, and it’s taxpayers that will pay the price unless we stop it.
Now that health insurance companies have begun filing key disclosure documents with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), we see clear evidence that we’re heading for an ObamaCare bailout.
For example, one insurer has disclosed that “as a result of the December 2013 federal and state regulatory changes allowing certain individuals to remain in their previously existing off-exchange health plans, the Company now expects the risk mix of members enrolling through the health insurance exchanges to be more adverse than previously expected.”
By law, health insurers are leveling with their shareholders about how ObamaCare will hurt their bottom line. Now President Obama, Secretary Sebelius and ObamaCare’s supporters should level with American taxpayers about the law’s true costs and eliminate any chance for a bailout.
Unfortunately, we can’t just take the administration’s word that it won’t happen. Congress has to act, and it should approve legislation I’ve introduced to repeal ObamaCare’s risk corridor provision and stop any bailout. At just a page long, my bill is simple but would instantly wipe away the taxpayer's exposure to millions – and potentially billions – of dollars' worth of a bailout for insurance companies.
If the only way ObamaCare works is with a taxpayer-funded bailout of insurers, it’s yet another clear sign that the law can’t survive and isn’t worth saving.
While in office, I have worked with others to protect Americans from ObamaCare's damage – as patients, taxpayers, consumers and workers. While some immediate relief is possible, it's become clear that all of ObamaCare's damage can't be prevented forever, unless the law is repealed and replaced with market-based reforms that will make health care more affordable and accessible for all Americans.
However, this law isn’t simply bad health policy. It has given a dysfunctional Washington that does few things right even more power and control over many aspects of our lives and our economy. It is strangling people’s dreams of a better life for themselves and their children and, in doing so, suffocating the American Dream.
ObamaCare needs to go, but at least in the meantime, Congress needs to protect taxpayers from an ObamaCare bailout of insurers by wiping away this possibility from the law.
