Do you like sports in general now as well as let say 25 to 30 yrs ago

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i wish they had daily fantasy sports when i was 10 years old. i knew every player on every team and all their stats.
 

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i think when someone bring up about the tv ect now against let say in the mid 80's or 90's and say sports is better is missing the point that the pros now suck from the nfl to the nba, just because we have a better viewing does not change the fact that sports in this day and time imo are nowhere as great as yrs ago......
 

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Pro sports is a shell of itself.
Pussiification of America continues .
Espn is part of the reason.
 

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i agree Pat, man has espn got very bad or what in a way it a little like mtv back in the day.mtv use to have great music and videos, now it crap with nothing, espn went the same way
 

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espn, the internet, mlb, nba, nfl channels, hdtv. all the games are being shown. things are waaay better. for once i agree w/FZ.
 

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I agree with what most posters have said in this thread, i get the crappy pic thing against what we have now to watch sports on, but that being said, imo too much of a good thing is not good either and imo sports are overkill on tv these days 7 days a week.but back in the day going to see live sports in person was 100 % better than today sports imo too.
Going to a game now, it's over the top marketing. We won't get into the commercial TO's , especially at ND football games.

I dont know know if the season is too long, but the playoffs are certainly too long.
 

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Way better way back when! I loved baseball befote free agency when fans could expect to see their
favorite players year after year in the same uniform. Geez, I even was an American League fan and
as such used to get excited about them beating the NL in the All-Star game. Now with half the players
having seasons in both leagues I don't think anyone is an All-Star game.

The NFL has way more commercial now so to me that makes it a poorer look. College Football I still watch
more than any other sport, but it was better in the old days before players switched teams if they didn't
get to start right away at the team that originally recruited them.
 

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NFL was way better years ago. Way better.
CFB was way better years ago. Way better.
NHL was way, way, way better years ago. Way Better.
Tennis was way, way, way better years ago. Way Better.
CBB unforunately mimics the NBA and as the NBA is disgracefully worse now compare to the eighties, CBB is as well. In addition, the turnover in CBB is worse. It was fun watching a kid develop and play for four years from Freshman to Senior. Now as soon as someone can make a run for the money they are gone (which I don't begrudge them but it has ruined CBB). No one runs an offense anymore.
NBA doesn't even have Centers anymore. This sport has the biggest disparity in watchability from back then to now.
Boxing was way better.

Baseball is about the same. I actually like it more now than the late 80ies and early 90ies when roids started.
UFC is new and I like it.
Golf - Putting it here but only because of Tiger. I watched almost every sunday when he was dominating. The problem with golf and tennis on the whole though is that the equipment got too good.

The common denominator for most of it is the pussification of Americans in general. Bunch of wusses. Took the violence out of football, took defense out of nba, took hitting out of hockey in a major way ...
 

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No, I think rules and officiating are over the top.

Freedom of movement (or like) rules in basketball and football are ridiculous and have changed the game. No advantage gained or lost, no penalty in my world as it used to be and like it is on the sandlot

Flopping sucks, and now we even have the offensive lineman flop when the defender moves, athletics never used to be about drama classes

Even baseball is getting into the act now with possession on catches, slides on the base paths and plays at the plate

Whenever you introduce more subjectivity into the game, you diminish the game and you create inconsistencies
 

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Way better way back when! I loved baseball befote free agency when fans could expect to see their
favorite players year after year in the same uniform. Geez, I even was an American League fan and
as such used to get excited about them beating the NL in the All-Star game. Now with half the players
having seasons in both leagues I don't think anyone is an All-Star game.

The NFL has way more commercial now so to me that makes it a poorer look. College Football I still watch
more than any other sport, but it was better in the old days before players switched teams if they didn't
get to start right away at the team that originally recruited them.

QFT, it's what happens when bureaucrats take over
 

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Most of you (actually all of us) just got older. Unless you are incredibly passionate about a sport, there is a novelty factor to all of them. You can only see so many dunks, 3 pointers, home runs, touchdowns before it really doesn't do much for you anymore. Throw in the fact that entertainment options were way less in number a few decades ago, you probably spent a lot of time watching sports that you maybe weren't as enamored with as it seemed.

I don't watch any baseball, hockey or college sports now. I just grew out of them. I don't really care who wins and I don't bet on those sports so why would I watch them. I don't think they've gotten worse, when I catch 5 minutes of an NHL game guys are flying around like mutants on skates. It looks way, way better than when I actually did watch. College basketball has gotten worse, but college sports was always a flawed model. Minor leagues would be better but then the fan passion isn't there because people love to root for their alma mater or local school. It is a market distortion in a sense.


Something like baseball is almost the exact same as it was 25 years ago, very little has changed about the game. You just don't feel like spending 3 hours a night watching a game. Your attention span just isn't there to watch something like that. It's a slow game in an increasingly fast paced society.

A few times this year, the primetime stand-alone NFL games the score would be like 16-13. And people would post like this was the worst thing in the world, like it was an abomination that nobody was scoring. You know how many games used to be like that? A much higher number. Watching an old NFL game is like watching a Charlie Chaplin movie, yeah you appreciate it but it is also horribly dated.

People talk about the officiating in the NBA, but it was always inconsistent. Go watch a game from the 80s, it is an endless parade to the free throw line. That is all they do all game is shoot free throws. Significantly more FTs were shot back then than are now. If people had the attention spans then that they do now, they would've turned the game off in the 2nd quarter every single night.

Boxing has gotten worse, a big reason for that is the other sports salaries skyrocketed so much that nobody is trying to box from the time they are 8 years old anymore. And that is really needed for mastery of the sport.
 
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Most of you (actually all of us) just got older. Unless you are incredibly passionate about a sport, there is a novelty factor to all of them. You can only see so many dunks, 3 pointers, home runs, touchdowns before it really doesn't do much for you anymore. Throw in the fact that entertainment options were way less in number a few decades ago, you probably spent a lot of time watching sports that you maybe weren't as enamored with as it seemed.

I don't watch any baseball, hockey or college sports now. I just grew out of them. I don't really care who wins and I don't bet on those sports so why would I watch them. I don't think they've gotten worse, when I catch 5 minutes of an NHL game guys are flying around like mutants on skates. It looks way, way better than when I actually did watch. College basketball has gotten worse, but college sports was always a flawed model. Minor leagues would be better but then the fan passion isn't there because people love to root for their alma mater or local school. It is a market distortion in a sense.


Something like baseball is almost the exact same as it was 25 years ago, very little has changed about the game. You just don't feel like spending 3 hours a night watching a game. Your attention span just isn't there to watch something like that. It's a slow game in an increasingly fast paced society.

A few times this year, the primetime stand-alone NFL games the score would be like 16-13. And people would post like this was the worst thing in the world, like it was an abomination that nobody was scoring. You know how many games used to be like that? A much higher number. Watching an old NFL game is like watching a Charlie Chaplin movie, yeah you appreciate it but it is also horribly dated.

People talk about the officiating in the NBA, but it was always inconsistent. Go watch a game from the 80s, it is an endless parade to the free throw line. That is all they do all game is shoot free throws. Significantly more FTs were shot back then than are now. If people had the attention spans then that they do now, they would've turned the game off in the 2nd quarter every single night.

Boxing has gotten worse, a big reason for that is the other sports salaries skyrocketed so much that nobody is trying to box from the time they are 8 years old anymore. And that is really needed for mastery of the sport.

Agree with your baseball comments. I used to love to watch baseball on TV, or in person. I can't remember the last time I watched a whole
game of baseball on TV, and the last time I went to a live game, I was bored to death. I can't get my kids interested in going to a pro game either.

Too slow, in today's fast-paced world.
 

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Baseball always has the reputation as a slow game but football is pretty slow as well. They only really play for about 6-7 minutes during a 3 hour game. When there isn't scoring it can be brutal to watch. Look at the superbowl this year, the Broncos defense was awesome. It was a superb defensive effort on the biggest stage as an underdog and after the game people said the game was horrible. Well what do you want? When they have these throwback games where defense dominates, people really don't like it. They want to see scoring, a lot of scoring, great QB's playing great. Even if they don't necessarily say that is what they want. If you played the Bengals/9ers SB when Montana drove for the win in 2016, I think most people would say something like this, "Terrible game, but great ending" when it was remembered as just a great game.

The officiating in the NFL has always been bad as well, they didn't even have instant replay a few decades ago. So the most basic, easiest to reverse missed calls weren't even changed back then because of that. If you had today's technology with 1995 NFL instant replay rules, it would not work. The fans would see the officiating was just as bad back then.
 

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Only reason I even watch football is because I can vet on it, if not, I wouldn't care less, & that goes for any pro sport. I can watch college sports w/o having any money on them.

As a kid & teenager, I actually enjoyed watching sports more than I do now.

I loved watching the NBA back in the 80's & 90's.......Larry Bird, Dr J, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley, Kareem Jabar, Rodman, damn I miss the old style & players of the NBA.
 

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People will even say this stuff with something as absurd as wrestling. "Oh wrestling was so much better in the 80s, I can't watch it anymore."

No, the reason you can't watch wrestling anymore is because you aren't 15 and it is wrestling.
 

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The computer group im with you on your entire post sir, as for the nfl they have run that sport into the ground, heck i cant even stand when they just talk about it on a sport talk show, i turn it off very fast these days
 
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People will even say this stuff with something as absurd as wrestling. "Oh wrestling was so much better in the 80s, I can't watch it anymore."

No, the reason you can't watch wrestling anymore is because you aren't 15 and it is wrestling.

That's some funny shit.
 

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Agree with your baseball comments. I used to love to watch baseball on TV, or in person. I can't remember the last time I watched a whole
game of baseball on TV, and the last time I went to a live game, I was bored to death. I can't get my kids interested in going to a pro game either.

Too slow, in today's fast-paced world.

I find The Great Game of baseball to be much more interesting these past seven to eight years. It has really been cool to see the evolution in both front office strategies and also on field with regard to how lineups are constructed, defenses are aligned and general matchups are worked in a more true "chess" -like fashion.

Baseball is a seven to eight month canvas, unlike the four month NFL and the NBA and NHL which have months leading up to a nine week tournament.
 

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I find The Great Game of baseball to be much more interesting these past seven to eight years. It has really been cool to see the evolution in both front office strategies and also on field with regard to how lineups are constructed, defenses are aligned and general matchups are worked in a more true "chess" -like fashion.

Baseball is a seven to eight month canvas, unlike the four month NFL and the NBA and NHL which have months leading up to a nine week tournament.

Basketball and football have had a lot of nuanced changes to the games as well, sure hockey has too. Coaching in particular has really evolved just in the last 5-10 years.

But again, that is really only something you're going to care about if you aren't a casual fan and very into the sport. All those changes in baseball are very subtle and not necessarily something that is going to bring people to follow the sport.
 

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