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How do you know all the allegations are true?

Lets just for example take a couple of the high profile allegations.

Weinstein denies it emphatically yet what 50 people come out claiming he did something similar to them. What does he do? Checks himself into a sex addiction clinic

Spacey comes out as gay then says he must have been drunk and apologizes

How about old George W Bush with multiple claims of basically being a dirty old man. Secret service warn women not to stand by him and later has a press secretary post an apology.

Seems like the allegations on almost all of the recent cases point to guilty as charged.

What is the motive of the women or men to bring shame on themselves. None. For every untrue false claim I would say there are 500 true claims
 

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What is the motive of the women or men to bring shame on themselves?

Wheres Shame in it? We have a Body, a SHELL in essence that we inhabit for how ever long that we do that, along the way say that Body gets touched penetrated or some fluid gets on it, thrust into it whatever, against the will of the mind/spirit/soul whatever is in that Shell, I don't understand a connection between perils that befall a Body and "Shame". That Body eventually returns to dust. This makes No Sense, this "Shame" stuff. Its just a Vessel. A very temporary Shell.
 

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Lets just for example take a couple of the high profile allegations.

Weinstein denies it emphatically yet what 50 people come out claiming he did something similar to them. What does he do? Checks himself into a sex addiction clinic

Spacey comes out as gay then says he must have been drunk and apologizes

How about old George W Bush with multiple claims of basically being a dirty old man. Secret service warn women not to stand by him and later has a press secretary post an apology.

Seems like the allegations on almost all of the recent cases point to guilty as charged.

What is the motive of the women or men to bring shame on themselves. None. For every untrue false claim I would say there are 500 true claims

Money, money and more money.
 

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Mike Ortiz says he dated Corfman (Roy Moore’s accuser) for 2 years around 2009. He says during that time, she told him about a sexual encounter w/ Moore when she was young.Again: Moore calls these claims “completely false & a desperate political attack.”#ALSen




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OK Yeah thats not good. What alternative would you suggest? Any Investigation and/or consideration of anything allowed within your alternative?

I seriously wanna know what you suggest be done, when a claim gets made.

for one it should be taken seriously...you are seeing this wave of allegations against people in powerful positions because there is strength in numbers. Women feel empowered to speak out now that others are doing it. Bill Clinton should have stepped down. He was a sexual predator as well. As long as people like that we’re getting away with it, no one was going to come forward. Nothing happened to Clinton...same with Anita Hill and C Thomas. It set a bad precedent. Now people see Weinstein taken down along with other powerful people in the media like Bill O’Reilly. The USA Gymastics team Dr and on and on. Hell, there were 14 damn women claiming Trump assaulted them. But no one believes them. No one takes women seriously if time has passed or if they already believe in the person being charged. Hollywood was an easy target.
 

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Criminally? By the letter of the law the answer is "no." Do I agree with that? No.

a person is either guilty or innocent. There is no in between.

cosby and OJ both guilty.

almost all of these other cases guilty. It needs to stop. So far the ones I have read about seem to be pretty heavily weighted against them and I think they are guilty.

whcih one isn't?
 

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a person is either guilty or innocent. There is no in between.

cosby and OJ both guilty.

almost all of these other cases guilty. It needs to stop. So far the ones I have read about seem to be pretty heavily weighted against them and I think they are guilty.

whcih one isn't?

Ok, they are not guilty then by the letter of criminal law (if you're talking the murder and rapes). To say otherwise is wrong.

Do I think they aren't guilty? No.
 

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Ok, they are not guilty then by the letter of criminal law (if you're talking the murder and rapes). To say otherwise is wrong.

Do I think they aren't guilty? No.

your wrong.

you are either guilty or not guilt of murder or rape in this case. Just because you are not convicted does not make you innocent you are still guilty.
 

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your wrong.

you are either guilty or not guilt of murder or rape in this case. Just because you are not convicted does not make you innocent you are still guilty.

Ok dude. If you're guilty, you're in jail. According to criminal law, they are not guilty. To say otherwise is just ignorant. Just stop.
 

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You said in this thread and it's not accurate.
Jesus Christ you will argue anything won’t you. I said this thread was a good example of why women don’t speak out period. Obviously no I’m in this thread has threatened their lives. I feel like I’m talking to a five year old (though mine is many times smarter). Do you feel a need to be validated as correct all the time? If it helps you to understand better I can go back and separate my posts into two paragraphs.
 

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OK Yeah thats not good. What alternative would you suggest? Any Investigation and/or consideration of anything allowed within your alternative?

I seriously wanna know what you suggest be done, when a claim gets made.


Support women. Support their stories, support their strength in coming forward, support them so it's slightly less of a nightmare for them.
 

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Jesus Christ you will argue anything won’t you. I said this thread was a good example of why women don’t speak out period. Obviously no I’m in this thread has threatened their lives. I feel like I’m talking to a five year old (though mine is many times smarter). Do you feel a need to be validated as correct all the time? If it helps you to understand better I can go back and separate my posts into two paragraphs.

Eat a grenade.
 

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Writer accuses Richard Dreyfuss of exposing himself and harassing her in the 80s :):)

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A female writer has accused actor Richard Dreyfuss of exposing himself and sexually harassing her when she worked for him in the 1980s - claims that the actor has emphatically denied, saying the relationship was one of mutual flirting.
Jessica Teich, 58, spoke out in an interview with Vulture released late Friday, claiming that Dreyfuss behaved lewdly when she worked as a junior writer on his ABC comedy special.
The special marking the bicentennial of the US Constitution, called Funny, You Don't Look 200: A Constitutional Vaudeville, aired in October 1987.
Teich says that in the run up to its air date Dreyfuss, the now 70-year-old star of Jaws and Close Encounters Of The Third Kind, called her to his trailer at a Los Angeles film studio lot.
She was in her late 20s at the time and he was 12 years her senior.
'I remember walking up the steps into the trailer and turning towards my left,' Teich said, 'and he was at the back of the trailer, and just - his penis was out, and he sort of tried to draw me close to it.'
She said the Oscar-winning actor didn't ask for sexual favors, but that the implication was clear.
'He was hard. I remember my face being brought close to his penis,' she continued. 'I can't remember how my face got close to his penis, but I do remember that the idea was that I was going to give him a blow job. I didn't, and I left.'
'It was like an out-of-body experience. I just tried to swiftly get out of the room. I pretended it hadn't really happened,' she said. 'I kept moving because it was part of my job, and I knew he was, at the time, a very important guy, and certainly important to me. I trusted him. That's what's always so weird. I liked him.'
Dreyfuss denied the exposure allegation in a lengthy statement to Vulture.
'I emphatically deny ever 'exposing' myself to Jessica Teich, whom I have considered a friend for 30 years. I did flirt with her, and I remember trying to kiss Jessica as part of what I thought was a consensual seduction ritual that went on and on for many years. I am horrified and bewildered to discover that it wasn't consensual,' Dreyfuss wrote.
Teich, however, claims that Dreyfuss sexually harassed her throughout the two to three years that she worked for him.
'He created a very hostile work environment, where I felt sexualized, objectified, and unsafe,' she said.
Vulture spoke with a family member of Teich who said she had spoken of the exposure incident years ago, as well as a confidante who recalled Teich discussing her discomfort with Dreyfuss hitting on her.
Teich said she has no plans to sue Dreyfuss, and came forward after seeing reports that the actor's son had spoken out with allegations that Kevin Spacey had groped him in 2008, when he was 18.
Dreyfuss tweeted a statement in support of his son Harry on Saturday, saying: 'I love my son @harrydreyfuss more than I could explain with all the words in the world. And I am so incredibly proud of him right now.'
Teich said that seeing that tweet 'bothered' her, adding: 'When I read about his support for his son, which I would never question, I remember thinking, But wait a minute, this guy harassed me for months.'
Dreyfuss opened up in his statement about his regrets about the aggressive way he flirted with women in the 1970s and 80s, noting: 'The rules are changing invisibly underneath our feet. I am playing catch up. Maybe we all are.'
Teich responded to Dreyfuss' statement, saying: 'I respect that he's trying to grapple with it, and I regret that he's not being totally honest. Sadly, what I regret even more is I'll never forget the sight of his penis because I was so surprised to see it there.'
Teich is the author of a memoir, The Future Tense Of Joy, detailing unrelated sexual abuse and molestation that took place when she was 16.




 

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