Discussion: How do we fix the education system?

[Mr NJ Sports]

How about making teachers accountable. So if the kids they are supposed to teach are complete frickin morons after they allegedly taught them they are disciplined or fired.

In High School some "teachers" I had were the laziest bastards in the world (and i went to school here in Central NJ a great school system on the whole) they would just write notes on the board and you would copy em. Other teachers would actually teach and would even give a shit if you learned.

Also when I went to Rutgers (great home team in hoops and made everyone some football $ this year) and every other college, you go to class you learn and you go on your way.

I think the amount of time kids spend in school is F'N ridiculous. How the hell can you expect to keep kids attention from 8am-330pm FIVE DAYS A WEEK from SEPTEMBER UNTIL JUNE???? Plus these asshole teahcer give the kids 75hours a night om homework. Its bullshit. In high school I was a shit student because I didnt feel like doing the work in classes I didnt give a shit about.(2.1 GPA, but got an 1140 on my SATs)
In college where I gave a shit about the classes I took I was over 3.0 .
Maybe you lighten the load a little and then in high school have more elective type courses that can help in the real world such as "ITS WHO YOU KNOW 101"

 

[KMAN]

Making teachers somewhat accountable is a good idea. I'm not sure how you would do that but sounds like a good idea.

My school was different than yours. I don't remember having to much homework in High School. I do however remembering having a sh!tload of homework in college. Man was I glad to graduate. I'm never going back to school!!!!!

 

[Mr NJ Sports]

But atleast in college you werent in school 8 hours a day 5 days a week, so you could actually go get you work done

 

[BuckFush]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Don't you think that if we got parents to care about their child's education that that would be a good place to start? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sure, and I'd like to hit the Powerball too but that ain't happening either. The problem is that in many families (that actually have two parents) the parents are both working so they can "keep up with the Joneses", living beyond their means and paying off their overextended credit cards.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> The hard part is getting the parents to take responsibility. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Which they have refused to do, and this is something that can't be blamed on "liberals" or "conservatives". And even if there were a student who wanted to learn and had responsible parents, many schools have been allowed to be taken over by gangs who scribble all over the walls, smash windows, run amok, and turn the school into a cesspool of violence and sex. Which gets back to my original statement in this thread.

I spent about a year going to (what used to be called) Charles Evans Hughes HS in NYC, and was the ONLY white student out of a student body of about 2400. I finally dropped out because I couldn't take any more spending a week learning the difference between to, too, and two... IN THE FUKKING 11TH GRADE! And no one in the class could grasp such a basic concept even after wasting that week on it. I realized that I would learn more hanging around the OTB than wasting my time in that zoo.

Face it, some people just aren't educatable.

 

[UncleMoneybags]

I think that public schools should be disbanded, all property sold at auction and everyone's taxes lowered. My parents had menial jobs yet still sent us to a private school. It might be hard but it can be done. I did home school in the eleventh grade and that might be a cheaper alternative but your kids have to have some integrity for it to work. Just about anything is better than public schools.

 

[dickman]

One good idea is to take away basic level courses which the majority of lazy students take in order to have an easy A, and only provide advanced courses.

That would help America's system tremendously. In the states, any student can succeed, but they have to work hard. If they decide to select only basic level courses than the fault lies with themselves. It is called accountability.

On my behalf, I have always tried to take the most advanced courses possible while I was in Highschool.

 

[KMAN]

Mr NJ Sports - Actually I was playing baseball in college, so between studying and working out I had very little free time.

 

[UncleMoneybags]

Alex the Great,

Your idea sounds great in principle, but in Nevada they tried a similar approach and it increased the drop-out rate to epic proportions. We were one of the lowest but all of a sudden we were one of the highest. They didn't take away the easy courses. They increased the credits to graduate from 19 to either 22.5 or 23.5 (I don't remember). In essence, if you failed even 1 subject and it wasn't offered in the summer that's one extra year.

Fortuneately, I escaped unscathed but I can see why others would throw in the towel.

The reasoning behind all this was:
More subjects = Smarter kids

 

[PatPatriot]

Vouchers more private schools...but no, the democrats insist they need more money for smaller class rooms..a code for more teachers and bigger union....kind of like a car thats blowing oil..fix the engine?...nah just put more oil in it.

[/QYou improve the education system by encouraging smart people to have children and dumb people not to, the direct inverse is what has led us to where we are now.UOTE]

I would change the word smart to responsible.

 

[xpanda]

Just how bad ARE your schools??

 

[Mr NJ Sports]

The schools here in the USA are good enough to have a country that keeps Canada in line.