It's easy to remember when it's zero.
that's funny...
back on Topic....
I was 8 (my B-Day) Balmoral Park...
I bet (my Dad bet) 8,then 8 then 8 again all (3 races) won...
the forth race...yep....8 again...my Dad laughed (ha)...
It lost...my Dad just looked @ me an smiled..(had NO clue what odds meant) ha...
to the other half of the question...
16.....and still know where she lives as I type....