Did anyone else want to throw up hearing the news? ARod to New York?!

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Even as a Yankee fan I was not excited about the deal. Will it work out for all involved..probably.

1) The transaction is not good for baseball. It highlights a few of the problems in the game.

2) As a fan, I get to spend 9 months reading and hearing about how the team I grew up with is ruining the game. (Very few remember the tough 80s for the Yanks...it was not easy being a fan or player then, ask Don Mattingly.)

In threads like this it is easy to lose sight of a few things:

1) Steinbrenner is working within the rules of the game and generally being a good business person. One can argue whether or not spending $200 million will win championships but there is also merchandising, gate receipts, TV contracts, and more importantly FRANCHISE VALUE that all play into why George does what he does.

2) The Yankees pay a luxury tax. Jesus, when does the rest of ownership accept accountability for the agreements and decisions made. For example, Tom Hicks decided to overpay for ARod not the Yanks. It is sad that a short time ago the game was almost halted due to these issues. A deal was struck yet people are STILL talking about the problems in the game?!?!? Give me a break!!!

3) Time and time again, this game shows that a team with good scouting and smart player signings can trump teams with large payrolls. Generally, a large payroll will keep a team in the heat of battle and win games. However, once the playoffs start it is truly "anyone's game."

4) Let us not forget that the O's tried to spend their way to a championship for many years and it didn't work. As I said in another thread, the Yankees get heat for it because they are CURRENTLY doing it better than other teams have done in the past.

Stop bitching, fix the system. (Comment not necessarily directed at you Jman.)
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WINNINGHAND:
Steinbrenner must really have no respect for money.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why do you say that? The team is profitable and the franchise's value is PROBABLY increasing.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WINNINGHAND:
Steinbrenner must really have no respect for money.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd correct that statement. Swinebrenner has no respect for BASEBALL !!
 

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The RED SOX scored more runs than anybody in the history of baseball in a single season last year!!

Granted the Red Sox lost Todd Walker for Pokey Reese at 2B......but this is still an awesome lineup

DAMON
REESE
NOMAR
MANNY
ORTIZ
MILLAR
NIXON
VARITEK
MUELLER

Not to mention
PEDRO
SCHILLING
LOWE
WAKEFIELD

And the best overall bullpen in baseball led by newly aquired and arguablly the best reliever in the game, KEITH FOULKE.

On paper, the addition of AROD brings the Yankees up to par with the RED SOX on paper but not over the top.

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Not to be picky but Foulke although effective is not nearly as good as the Dodgers Eric Gagne. Not that it matters seeing as how they are in different leagues.


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Thats for sure WIL.

Lets me rephrase and say TOP FIVE.

Course the Yanks have a pretty good one too.
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Frankly,

I hope the yANKEES lose every game they ever play. The games they win, I could care less. It is tough for me to understand exactly what a bully (Steinbully) expects to gain by pushing everybody else around. George will die (soon) an unhappy, unfullfilled egomaniac. Don't look for me to come in here with a quick "baseball man" story.

This guy is singularly as bad for the game of baseball as anyone with whom I have been familiar in the second half of the 20th century.
Baseball is the greatest game of all games. Major League Baseball is a poor representation of what the game really is all about.


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He who has the money rules the world!

I am NOT a Yankees fan, but they deserve a little compensation for losing Pettitte and Clemens!
 

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their payroll is like 200 million this year. hard to compete with that...
 

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Its not George`s fault IMO, its the owners collectively...if they think the same team being in position to win it all is good for baseball then they really all deserve each other....You never see any owner in public being called out on this bullsh1t!

Its sad , we all know it...When Oakland loses a Giambi in the prime of his career that says all we need to know...And this is the norm, no team should lose its franchise player...
 

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Folks, please remember the Yanks just didnt get AROD for NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They gave up a guy who has AVERAGED 38 HR and 38 SB the last two seasons!!!....and who had tremendous range at 2b!!....and may get BETTER!!
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FISHHEAD:
Folks, please remember the Yanks just didnt get AROD for NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They gave up a guy who has AVERAGED 38 HR and 38 SB the last two seasons!!!....and who had tremendous range at 2b!!....and may get BETTER!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks Fish
 

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Fish, how long is Soriano locked in his contract for, because to be traded for him and just one other player, is in essence salary-dumping by Texas.

Soriano is an bling-bling islander that has no discipline for a strike-zone, and without the competitive confines of a major team in the Yankees,etc..is gonna just be a miserable 'tude with lousy plate-discipline for a softball team going nowhere..then he walks back to a Seaboard team, LAD, or NYM in a few short years.

It's a big joke, I wouldn't be surprised if Texas gave him up so cheaply to NYY over being p!ssed at Boston for their deal falling apart, as much as the Yanks being the only other team with such fiscal insanity to win a World Series, as to eat that salary(even with a 'lil financial relief).

The new AAA of MLB is not in the minors, it's actual game experience in MLB small market teams & poor ownership teams, that eventually need to move their top salaries and start again in terms of players of the same age and direction philosophically.
 

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Soriano made 840,000 last year.

Not sure of length of contract.

That is what CBSSPORTSLINE as him quoted at.
 

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Soriano will be a free agent after to the 2006 season. Soriano will earn $5.4 million in 2004.



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Thanks Wil & Fish, I had a hunch it was probably only a couple of years..even Cashman and George have enough heart to only banish him to prison for two years.

Like Manny-of-FAO fame, Soriano will want to get back to NYC in a few years..it's like making free trades in the end.
 

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Foulke arguably the best reliever in the game?

the guy for the Dodgers
the guy for the Phillies now
the guy for the Braves
oh yeah, the guy for the Yanks

Foulke better hope he gets off on the right foot against the Yanks.
 

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Come on Fish, the Sox had alot of players who had career years....Foulke is not the best,lol...remember how close the Sox were to losing to Oakland? this team will be lucky to stay within 10 games of NY!

Shilling and Pedro are not automatic anymore, I realize they have future HOF Wakefield,lol...couldn`t resist lol...

No lineup in the history of the game has more potential....This is Murderer`s Row...

When Bernie Williams is your 6th best offensive player your team is AWESOME....Who on Boston could start on NY? not many...
 

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