Dems Proposal of Bailout---20% to ACORN

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Actually the figures above have already been signed into law, they're
referring to already signed bills.

I heard the same quotes today in the news, I'll be
honest, I can't find the info online yet... we'll see tomorrow if
more details come out.

Oh good lord get your story straight and then come back and blow smoke.
 

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Sleazy, corrupt shit-heads.


As opposed to dishonest lying A-holes who want to trick people into thinking there's some organized effort to steal elections by posting every article they can find written by any right wing hack, regardless of how old it is.

Senate confirmed U.S. Attorney's have looked extensively into voter fraud allegations against ACORN (along with the FBI). Every one of them determined that there has never been an effort to skew an election. In order for the (politicized) Justice Department to get their convictions in 2006, they had to ask for the U.S. Attorney for Missouri's resignation and replace him with an interim U.S. Attorney who was just a GOP partisan hack, and have him go forward with the prosecution. Once he got the guilty pleas (for filing false registrations that were filled out in order to get a paycheck), the interim U.S. Attorney (i.e. hack) resigned because he did his one assignment and could never get confirmed in a million years.
 

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Recent Fraud

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 border=0><TBODY><TR align=middle bgColor=lightgrey><TD>State </TD><TD>Year </TD><TD align=left>Details </TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD>AR</TD><TD>1998</TD><TD>A contractor with ACORN-affiliated Project Vote was arrested for falsifying about 400 voter registration cards.</TD></TR><TR bgColor=lightgrey><TD>CO</TD><TD>2004</TD><TD>An ACORN employee admitted to forging signatures and registering three of her friends to vote 40 times.</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD></TD><TD>2005</TD><TD>Two ex-ACORN employees were convicted in Denver of perjury for submitting false voter registrations.</TD></TR><TR bgColor=lightgrey><TD>FL</TD><TD>2004</TD><TD>A Florida Department of Law Enforcement spokesman said ACORN was “singled out” among suspected voter registration groups for a 2004 wage initiative because it was “the common thread” in the agency’s fraud investigations.</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD>MI</TD><TD>2004</TD><TD>The Detroit Free Press reported that “overzealous or unscrupulous campaign workers in several Michigan counties are under investigation for voter-registration fraud, suspected of attempting to register nonexistent people or forging applications for already-registered voters.” ACORN-affiliate Project Vote was one of two groups suspected of turning in the documents.</TD></TR><TR bgColor=lightgrey><TD>MO</TD><TD>2007</TD><TD>Four ACORN employees were indicted in Kansas City for charges including identity theft and filing false registrations during the 2006 election.</TD></TR><TR bgColor=lightgrey><TD></TD><TD>2006</TD><TD>Eight ACORN employees in St. Louis were indicted on federal election fraud charges. Each of the eight faces up to five years in prison for forging signatures and submitting false information. </TD></TR><TR bgColor=lightgrey><TD></TD><TD>2003</TD><TD>Of 5,379 voter registration cards ACORN submitted in St. Louis, only 2,013 of those appeared to be valid. At least 1,000 are believed to be attempts to register voters illegally.</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD>NC</TD><TD>2004</TD><TD>North Carolina officials investigated ACORN for submitting fake voter registration cards. </TD></TR><TR bgColor=lightgrey><TD>NM</TD><TD>2005</TD><TD>Four ACORN employees submitted as many as 3,000 potentially fraudulent signatures on the group’s Albuquerque ballot initiative. A local sheriff added: “It’s safe to say the forgery was widespread.”</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD></TD><TD>2004</TD><TD>An ACORN employee registered a 13-year-old boy to vote. Citing this and other examples, New Mexico State Representative Joe Thompson stated that ACORN was “manufacturing voters” throughout New Mexico.</TD></TR><TR bgColor=lightgrey><TD>OH</TD><TD>2007</TD><TD>A man in Reynoldsburg was indicted on two felony counts of illegal voting and false registration, after being registered by ACORN to vote in two separate counties.</TD></TR><TR bgColor=lightgrey><TD></TD><TD>2004</TD><TD>A grand jury indicted a Columbus ACORN worker for submitting a false signature and false voter registration form. In Franklin County, two ACORN workers submitted what the director of the board of election supervisors called “blatantly false” forms. In Cuyahoga County, ACORN and its affiliate Project Vote submitted registration cards that had the highest rate of errors for any voter registration group.</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD>MN</TD><TD>2004</TD><TD>During a traffic stop, police found more than 300 voter registration cards in the trunk of a former ACORN employee, who had violated a legal requirements that registration cards be submitted to the Secretary of State within 10 days of being filled out and signed.</TD></TR><TR bgColor=lightgrey><TD>PA</TD><TD>2008</TD><TD>An ACORN employee in West Reading, PA, was sentenced to up to 23 months in prison for identity theft and tampering with records. A second ACORN worker pleaded not guilty to the same charges and is free on $10,000 bail.</TD></TR><TR bgColor=lightgrey><TD></TD><TD>2004</TD><TD>Reading’s Director of Elections received calls from numerous individuals complaining that ACORN employees deliberately put inaccurate information on their voter registration forms. The Berks County director of elections said voter fraud was “absolutely out of hand,” and added: “Not only do we have unintentional duplication of voter registration but we have blatant duplicate voter registrations.” The Berks County deputy director of elections added that ACORN was under investigation by the Department of Justice.</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD>TX</TD><TD>2004</TD><TD>ACORN turned in the voter registration form of David Young, who told reporters “The signature is not my signature. It’s not even close.” His social security number and date of birth were also incorrect.</TD></TR><TR bgColor=lightgrey><TD>VA</TD><TD>2005</TD><TD>In 2005, the Virginia State Board of Elections admonished Project Vote and ACORN for turning in a significant number of faulty voter registrations. An audit revealed that 83% of sampled registrations that were rejected for carrying false or questionable information were submitted by Project Vote. Many of these registrations carried social security numbers that exist for other people, listed non-existent or commercial addresses, or were for convicted felons in violation of state and federal election law.

In a letter to ACORN, the State Board of Elections reported that 56% of the voter registration applications ACORN turned in were ineligible. Further, a full 35% were not submitted in a timely manner, as required by law. The State Board of Elections also commented on what appeared to be evidence of intentional voter fraud. "Additionally,” they wrote, “information appears to have been altered on some applications where information given by the applicant in one color ink has been scratched through and re-entered in another color ink. Any alteration of a voter registration application is a Class 5 Felony in accordance with § 24.2-1009 of the Code of Virginia."
</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD>WA</TD><TD>2007</TD><TD>Three ACORN employees pleaded guilty, and four more were charged, in the worst case of voter registration fraud in Washington state history. More than 2,000 fraudulent voter registration cards were submitted by the group during a voter registration drive.</TD></TR><TR bgColor=lightgrey><TD>WI</TD><TD>2004</TD><TD>The district attorney’s office investigated seven voter registration applications Project Vote employees filed in the names of people who said the group never contacted them. Former Project Vote employee Robert Marquise Blakely told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that he had not met with any of the people whose voter registration applications he signed, “an apparent violation of state law,” according to the paper.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 

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Senate confirmed U.S. Attorney's have looked extensively into voter fraud allegations against ACORN (along with the FBI). Every one of them determined that there has never been an effort to skew an election.

Do you happen to know the names and party affiliations of these US Attorneys?

Thank God various state attorneys (including WA, CO, MO, & OH) have found plenty of reasons to put many of their members under indictment and/or in jail for voter fraud.
 

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countdown to 10 trillion........


If you were to try to count 10-trillion seconds.. it would take you almost 317-thousand years!
 
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As opposed to dishonest lying A-holes who want to trick people into thinking there's some organized effort to steal elections by posting every article they can find written by any right wing hack, regardless of how old it is.

Senate confirmed U.S. Attorney's have looked extensively into voter fraud allegations against ACORN (along with the FBI). Every one of them determined that there has never been an effort to skew an election. In order for the (politicized) Justice Department to get their convictions in 2006, they had to ask for the U.S. Attorney for Missouri's resignation and replace him with an interim U.S. Attorney who was just a GOP partisan hack, and have him go forward with the prosecution. Once he got the guilty pleas (for filing false registrations that were filled out in order to get a paycheck), the interim U.S. Attorney (i.e. hack) resigned because he did his one assignment and could never get confirmed in a million years.

Oh, so you are telling me ACORN is not corrupt? Puhhlleeease.
You can't be serious?

OMG You can't make this shit up.

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OK. So the details are, the Dems are proposing that 20% of all profits
made from this bailout will go to the Housing Trust Fund — a boondoggle that Democrats in Congress has used to fund political-action groups like ACORN and the National Council of La Raza.

more details to come.
 

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Do you happen to know the names and party affiliations of these US Attorneys?

Thank God various state attorneys (including WA, CO, MO, & OH) have found plenty of reasons to put many of their members under indictment and/or in jail for voter fraud.

The names are available. Some that I recall are John McKay (Eastern Washington) and David Iglesias (New Mexico). Todd Graves is the name of the one from Missouri who was asked to resign in 2006 and was replaced by Bradley Schlozman. Schlozman had no prosecution experience, but he was willing to do their dirty work. McKay and Iglesias were part of the group that were fired on Dec 7, 2006 and led to the ongoing unresolved scandal that most likely led to Karl Rove's resignation. David Iglesias is most definitely a Republican, although he's very disenchanted with the party these days.


With the exception of 1 (out of 93), every U.S. attorney since Oct 2001 were Bush administration appointees. Without going into all the details about how a U.S. attorney typically gets appointed, I suspect the majority or each of them were/are Republicans. In any event, it shouldn't matter. The historic practice within the Justice Department is for all U.S. Attorney's to put aside partisan politics when deciding on prosecutions. Under Alberto Gonzales, the historic practice went awry and led to the ongoing scandal.

As far as putting ACORN members under idictment. I don't think temp employees could be characterized as ACORN members. I think you and others have a lot to learn and need to understand what real voter fraud is. People can't vote with invalid registrations. However, that isn't going to stop propogandists from trying distort reality.
 

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SIMPLY SICKENING....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080926/ap_on_bi_ge/bailout_paper_trail
A week ago, it totaled just three pages — the White House's request for $700 billion to rescue tottering financial institutions by buying their devalued mortgage-related assets.

By Monday, after an intense weekend of negotiations, the draft of the bailout legislation before Congress had swelled to 42 pages.

By Friday, after almost a week of marathon talks between Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and key lawmakers in both parties, the working version was up to 102 pages.

It likely will grow even longer as negotiators continue to tweak the proposal this weekend, adding and subtracting key elements.

Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., the House Financial Services Committee's chairman, was optimistic Friday that a final agreement could be reached by Sunday.
 

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I forget which coach, but he said the NCAA rulebook is over 300 pages hell most people cant even remember the 10 commandments.
 

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I forget which coach, but he said the NCAA rulebook is over 300 pages hell most people cant even remember the 10 commandments.
ya i keep fuckin' the main one "i shall not covet thy neighbors drink"
 

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SIMPLY SICKENING....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080926/ap_on_bi_ge/bailout_paper_trail
A week ago, it totaled just three pages — the White House's request for $700 billion to rescue tottering financial institutions by buying their devalued mortgage-related assets.

By Monday, after an intense weekend of negotiations, the draft of the bailout legislation before Congress had swelled to 42 pages.

By Friday, after almost a week of marathon talks between Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and key lawmakers in both parties, the working version was up to 102 pages.

It likely will grow even longer as negotiators continue to tweak the proposal this weekend, adding and subtracting key elements.

Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., the House Financial Services Committee's chairman, was optimistic Friday that a final agreement could be reached by Sunday.


NOW IS UP TO 451 PAGES...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081001/ap_on_bi_ge/meltdown_bill_grows

Two Saturdays ago, it totaled just three pages — the White House's request for $700 billion to rescue tottering financial institutions by buying their devalued mortgage-related assets.

After an intense weekend of negotiations, the draft of the bailout legislation before Congress had swelled to 42 pages.
The following Friday, after almost a week of marathon talks between Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and key lawmakers in both parties, the working version was up to 102 pages. It went down to defeat Monday in the House, mostly at the hands of Republicans.


Once the Senate was finished adding sweeteners Wednesday to entice reluctant House Republicans to change their minds and vote for the bailout, the bill heading for passage had grown to 451 pages.


It was unclear whether it would expand still more as House leaders hunted for the votes needed to clear the b
 

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senate passed it......friday house will....bingo bailout/investment
 

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