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UCLA has been to three stragiht Final Fours (something like that), but can't finish. They are all about defense.
 

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Louisville is a solid dark horse. If Edgar Sosa steps up then they could be dangerous.
 

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North Carolina really should win the tourney, and I have them at +300 and think that is good value. They win this thing at least half the time with the weak field this year.

Not sure about the "value" plays on teams like Syracuse, ND, Texas, Georgetown etc. In reality these teams really have no shot at winning it all. Even the team I think makes a huge run as a darkhorse, St Marys, i would not put money on to win it all. Just can't see the winner being someone other than North Carolina, or Pittsburgh. UConn or Louisville maybe, but I don't think either can score consistently enough to win it all. Yes, defense really matters more, but to beat the top teams you'll need both, unless you're UNC.

Pitt at anything better than 10/1 is great odds and I'm hoping we get to see them in the finals vs UNC.
 

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Not sure how a team can be #2 in the country in steals out of 340+ teams but they don't play any defense.:think2:

Why not? Just because they get a high amount of steals doesn't mean they play defense. It means that they either go all or nothing for the ball or play at such a fast pace that they force a few more steals then other teams would.

How does this team play defense? They allow 74 ppg. Look at the totals they have allowed to quality teams out of conference:

83 to Gonzaga
94 to Michigan State

In Conference:

83 to Washington
61 to A&M
98 to Baylor
97 to Mizzou

Throw in some crappy teams:

88 to North Texas
73 to Tulsa
82 to Rhode Island

What is going to happen in the tournament if they play UNC, Wake, Duke, Clemson, ND, Louisville, Marquette or Tennessee? These teams all probably go for over 100 on Ok St.
 

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North Carolina really should win the tourney, and I have them at +300 and think that is good value. They win this thing at least half the time with the weak field this year.

Not sure about the "value" plays on teams like Syracuse, ND, Texas, Georgetown etc. In reality these teams really have no shot at winning it all. Even the team I think makes a huge run as a darkhorse, St Marys, i would not put money on to win it all. Just can't see the winner being someone other than North Carolina, or Pittsburgh. UConn or Louisville maybe, but I don't think either can score consistently enough to win it all. Yes, defense really matters more, but to beat the top teams you'll need both, unless you're UNC.

Pitt at anything better than 10/1 is great odds and I'm hoping we get to see them in the finals vs UNC.

Well for example playing something like Texas +3000 isn't exactly betting them to win. It is betting them to get into the Elite 8. If they do you hedge accordingly or sell the ticket. I sold my Texas ticket last year at 30 to 1 when they made the Elite 8. It was for $250 and I solid it for $1,500. I was in a good spot though. I had 4 tickets from Vegas last year in the tourny. I had Stanfordat 50 to 1, Davidson for 175 to 1, Texas for 30 to 1, and Butler 100 to 1.

Typically, I am in Vegas around early March so I can't see the bracket yet but I try to take 2 teams that are going to be a 2-4 seed and 2 long shots just for fun. I took Davidson at $50 and Butler at $50. I sold the Davidson ticket at a card club late in the Wisky game for $3,750 to some guy who had a woody for Stephen Curry. I took Butler and thought they had a legit shot to beat Tenn last year after the bracket came out, no go. I had a good spot with Stanford playing Texas in the Sw 16 so I had either a 30 to 1 sale set up or 50 to 1 sale set up depending who won. Also, sold it at a card club. They buy them either for the action or they think they can make a nice hedge or to show thier friends idk though.
 
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Why not? Just because they get a high amount of steals doesn't mean they play defense. It means that they either go all or nothing for the ball or play at such a fast pace that they force a few more steals then other teams would.

How does this team play defense? They allow 74 ppg. Look at the totals they have allowed to quality teams out of conference:

83 to Gonzaga
94 to Michigan State

In Conference:

83 to Washington
61 to A&M
98 to Baylor
97 to Mizzou

Throw in some crappy teams:

88 to North Texas
73 to Tulsa
82 to Rhode Island

What is going to happen in the tournament if they play UNC, Wake, Duke, Clemson, ND, Louisville, Marquette or Tennessee? These teams all probably go for over 100 on Ok St.


LMFAO...I thought we were talking about Missouri and not Oklahoma St.:ohno:
 

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