I do lead I think, to the safe middle ground. I think its extremists like you that are dangerous, and at times laughable. If you don't like looking at these types of pictures then fine, but to call people degenerates for it is another thing. Just to me betting on little league games where the kids are hardly having fun because mom and dad and coach are pushing them to win years before they are really concerned about it strikes me as being a tad degenerate, but I am not going to tell anyone that. Bet on what you want, but personally I don't bet on LL games, wars, trials, etc...because as you say bets are investments and there are plenty of other investments for me to make without getting financially involved in something that could go without that aspect. I mean say you bet the Peterson case, are you going to stand up and shout out "damn frickin DA cost me a dime" if you bet guilty and he is acquitted??? Same thing with LL games, kids normally are trying to have fun and because the media, parents, coaches, etc. make them feel pressure they end up crying and broken hearted if they lose instead of just leaving saying how much fun they had. That is sick and your "example-setting" doesn't impress me.