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Im talking about Dempster, he was great all season especially at home.

He choked, i dont understand how you could say otherwise.

My point was that Dempster wouldn't be reliable and couldn't be trusted. And guess what. He wasn't.

Before this season, his career statistics as a starter were garbage.
 

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Not really. I posted this in another thread before the series started. They weren't that good to begin with.

"Cubs have a converterted reliever going in game 1, a headcase who probably isn't 100% going in game 2, and a pitcher who definitely isn't 100% going in game 3.


Dodgers have the starting pitching advantage. Raphael Furcal will likely be back for this series."

They have an overrated lineup as well and an average bullpen."

I was on the Dodgers to advance too, and it looks like it should be a nice payout, but the Cubs probably have the most talent on their roster in the league, and that quote might be some of the stupidest things I've ever read. The Dodgers were a massively underrated team and were the second best team in the NL. Lets take a look at your points though.

1) That "converted reliever" was one of the best starters the entire season. That can not be doubted or debated against. That is purely a fact.

2) Carlos Zambrano is better than any starter on the Dodgers. Again, a fact. If not for the errors he would have had a very good game.

3) Definitely isn't 100%? Harden has been one of the top 5 pitchers the second half of the season, and when healthy he is a top 5 pitcher without doubt. That guy has a TON of talent.

4) SP advantage? The Dodgers have a VERY deep staff. I love their staff. It is worse than the Cubs though, and it isn't even close. Give me Harden, Dempster or Zambrano over any Dodgers pitcher.

5) Furcal makes a difference, but a very small one.

6) Overrated? By who's standards? They have a good lineup. Not as good as it looked earlier in the league, but still a very good lineup.

Again, I was on the Dodgers and the series line was absolutely ridiculous. I saw this as a 50/50 series between the NL's two best teams. Your points are ridiculous and none are valid points on why the Cubs will likely lose this series.
 

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Red Sox had to come back from a 3-0 series deficit against the Yankees to break the curse.

Perhaps the Cubs can follow in those same footsteps to break there own.

Doubt it though...
 

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I was on the Dodgers to advance too, and it looks like it should be a nice payout, but the Cubs probably have the most talent on their roster in the league, and that quote might be some of the stupidest things I've ever read. The Dodgers were a massively underrated team and were the second best team in the NL. Lets take a look at your points though.

1) That "converted reliever" was one of the best starters the entire season. That can not be doubted or debated against. That is purely a fact.

2) Carlos Zambrano is better than any starter on the Dodgers. Again, a fact. If not for the errors he would have had a very good game.

3) Definitely isn't 100%? Harden has been one of the top 5 pitchers the second half of the season, and when healthy he is a top 5 pitcher without doubt. That guy has a TON of talent.

4) SP advantage? The Dodgers have a VERY deep staff. I love their staff. It is worse than the Cubs though, and it isn't even close. Give me Harden, Dempster or Zambrano over any Dodgers pitcher.

5) Furcal makes a difference, but a very small one.

6) Overrated? By who's standards? They have a good lineup. Not as good as it looked earlier in the league, but still a very good lineup.

Again, I was on the Dodgers and the series line was absolutely ridiculous. I saw this as a 50/50 series between the NL's two best teams. Your points are ridiculous and none are valid points on why the Cubs will likely lose this series.

Go smoke another joint.
 

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I was on the Dodgers to advance too, and it looks like it should be a nice payout, but the Cubs probably have the most talent on their roster in the league, and that quote might be some of the stupidest things I've ever read. The Dodgers were a massively underrated team and were the second best team in the NL. Lets take a look at your points though.

1) That "converted reliever" was one of the best starters the entire season. That can not be doubted or debated against. That is purely a fact.

2) Carlos Zambrano is better than any starter on the Dodgers. Again, a fact. If not for the errors he would have had a very good game.

3) Definitely isn't 100%? Harden has been one of the top 5 pitchers the second half of the season, and when healthy he is a top 5 pitcher without doubt. That guy has a TON of talent.

4) SP advantage? The Dodgers have a VERY deep staff. I love their staff. It is worse than the Cubs though, and it isn't even close. Give me Harden, Dempster or Zambrano over any Dodgers pitcher.

5) Furcal makes a difference, but a very small one.

6) Overrated? By who's standards? They have a good lineup. Not as good as it looked earlier in the league, but still a very good lineup.

Again, I was on the Dodgers and the series line was absolutely ridiculous. I saw this as a 50/50 series between the NL's two best teams. Your points are ridiculous and none are valid points on why the Cubs will likely lose this series.


Please explain to me how Dempster, Harden and Big Z are better starters than Chad Billingsley. I'll be waiting for your response. You call his comment dumb yet you say something like that.

A part of pitching is staying healthy. Harden, certainly can't be a top 5 pitcher when he can't go further than the 6th inning in any game and can't stay healthy for longer than a month at a time.

Big Z can implode and wasn't nearly as good as Chad this year. Move on as you lose that argument.

Dempster. The only pitcher on the Cubs staff you can argue is as good as Billingsley, but that's only this year. If you'd take him over Billingsley you're a fool. Dempster has been a good pitcher, not great, throughout his career. End of story. He finally realized he was Ryan Dempster.

Chad Billingsley is better than the three I named. End of story. So you sound like the dumb one my friend. Derek Lowe has also pitched HUGE games in the playoffs before so he gets the edge over Dempster as well.

Also the Cubs lineup is not better than the Dodgers lineup when they have Manny and Furcal in it. It's equal.

We usually agree on things OTK, but not this one.
 

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and that quote might be some of the stupidest things I've ever read

Your points are ridiculous and none are valid points on why the Cubs will likely lose this series.

Let's see. I will address everything I stated.



1> Dempster was horrible.

2> Zambrano gave up 6 runs.

3> Cubs lineup has had the bats shoved up their asses.

4> Furcal is hitting .333 for the series.

5> Cubs bullpen has been sh*t.

6> Lowe and Billingsly have been dominant.

It looks like I am 100% on my predictions so far.

Regardless of what happens the rest of the series your statments are assinine.

Go wipe the egg off your face.
 
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Let's see. I will address everything I stated.



1> Dempster was horrible.

2> Zambrano gave up 6 runs.

3> Cubs lineup has had the bats shoved up their asses.

4> Furcal is hitting .333 for the sries.

5> Cubs bullpen has been sh*t.

6> Lowe and Billingsly have been dominant.

It looks like I am 100% on my predictions so far.

Regardless of what happens the rest of the series your statments are assinine.

Go wipe the egg of your face.


Great. None of that means their overrated.
 

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How can you have any argument when I have been 100% correct with my predictions?


Because all im arguing is that you said they are overrated and not that they choked. It has nothing to do with your predictions.
 

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Because all im arguing is that you said they are overrated and not that they choked. It has nothing to do with your predictions.

This has clearly become a battle of wills for you.

I am done.
 

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Guys, this series is not over. 3 games is not that much. Cubs had 15 win streaks of 3 or more this year. A long-shot, but not over by any means.
 

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If the Cubs aren't cursed, they certainly played like it
 

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I was on the Dodgers to advance too, and it looks like it should be a nice payout, but the Cubs probably have the most talent on their roster in the league, and that quote might be some of the stupidest things I've ever read. The Dodgers were a massively underrated team and were the second best team in the NL. Lets take a look at your points though.

1) That "converted reliever" was one of the best starters the entire season. That can not be doubted or debated against. That is purely a fact.

2) Carlos Zambrano is better than any starter on the Dodgers. Again, a fact. If not for the errors he would have had a very good game.

3) Definitely isn't 100%? Harden has been one of the top 5 pitchers the second half of the season, and when healthy he is a top 5 pitcher without doubt. That guy has a TON of talent.

4) SP advantage? The Dodgers have a VERY deep staff. I love their staff. It is worse than the Cubs though, and it isn't even close. Give me Harden, Dempster or Zambrano over any Dodgers pitcher.

5) Furcal makes a difference, but a very small one.

6) Overrated? By who's standards? They have a good lineup. Not as good as it looked earlier in the league, but still a very good lineup.

Again, I was on the Dodgers and the series line was absolutely ridiculous. I saw this as a 50/50 series between the NL's two best teams. Your points are ridiculous and none are valid points on why the Cubs will likely lose this series.

I'm sorry but if you think furcal just makes a small difference you could not be more wrong
 

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Furcal makes a huge difference. The amazing thing is playing SF, SD, and Colorado, this team was THREE games over .500. And they have had solid pitching all year. Makes you wonder if they didn't piss all that money away on washed-up F/A's.
 

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