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the only thing I know is we watched the 2nd half in our room and I went downstairs to collect right after the game. there were 2 windows open and maybe 10 guys in each line. maybe, the winners wanted to wait till today to collect

no doubt...don't like wasting time to cash tickets.. I have a in game GS ticket at +2 1/2 still in my pocket...... Cavs +6 still in my pocket too..
 
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[h=1]LeBron’s 21-foot Game-Loser Worse Than Seahawks Superbowl Pass[/h] 4

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by John Pudner5 Jun 201559
[h=2]For all the abuse Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson took for the intercepted slant pass to lose the Super Bowl, LeBron James’ 21-foot fade away miss at the end of regulation was worse.[/h] It could well have cost Cleveland Game 1 of the NBA Playoffs.
This Breitbart Sports graph of LeBron’s shooting percentage over the last five years estimates that he hits less than 40% of his 21-footers:
FG DistanceFG% est
076.1%
349.2%
448.7%
548.2%
647.7%
747.2%
846.7%
946.2%
1045.7%
1144.5%
1243.3%
1342.1%
1441.8%
1541.5%
1641.2%
1740.9%
1840.6%
1940.3%
2040.0%
2139.7%
2239.4%
2339.1%
3-pt36.6%

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This table is based on graphing lines between the ranges shown at Basketball-Reference. In fact, that 39.7% is incredibly generous, since LeBron has hit less than 18% of his three-pointers this playoffs (compared to 36.6% over five years), so his chances just three feet closer don’t appear great.
In fact, by my unofficial tally, Thursday night LeBron went:
10 of 14 from 10 feet or closer
6 of 15 from 11 to 20 feet
2 of 9 from 20 feet or more.
So on all counts LeBron looks more like a 25% shooter from 21 feet away—so a one in four chance of hitting the game winner on a 21-footer.
The Cavs had the full 24-second clock for LeBron to get as close to the basket as he could, which could have given him close to 50% on the shot.
But to make matters worse, his 21-foot fade away left LeBron almost no chance of inducing a foul.
LeBron gets fouled about one in six times, so if he had attempted to move closer to the basket we would expect an even higher percentage.
Since the score was 98-98, the Cavs needed just one point. LeBron is a 75% foul shooter so if he was fouled there would have been a 94.5% chance he hits at least one of the free throws.
Add it all together, and LeBron appears to have a better than 50-50 chance of hitting the game-winning free throw or shot if he just attempts to get a bit closer to the basket.
Settling for the 21-foot fadeaway likley gave him a 25% chance.
 

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I been to the westgate for the super bowl the last 8 years and the lines are out the door after the game to collect. so the super crowd will wait hours to collect and for basketball they don't want to wait 15 minutes. I didn't know this. you taught me something. very interesting I just looked at the line and thought Vegas books had a good day
 

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LeBron’s 21-foot Game-Loser Worse Than Seahawks Superbowl Pass

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LeBron-James-Fadeaway-Game-1-AP-640x480.jpg
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by John Pudner5 Jun 201559
For all the abuse Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson took for the intercepted slant pass to lose the Super Bowl, LeBron James’ 21-foot fade away miss at the end of regulation was worse.

It could well have cost Cleveland Game 1 of the NBA Playoffs.
This Breitbart Sports graph of LeBron’s shooting percentage over the last five years estimates that he hits less than 40% of his 21-footers:
FG DistanceFG% est
076.1%
349.2%
448.7%
548.2%
647.7%
747.2%
846.7%
946.2%
1045.7%
1144.5%
1243.3%
1342.1%
1441.8%
1541.5%
1641.2%
1740.9%
1840.6%
1940.3%
2040.0%
2139.7%
2239.4%
2339.1%
3-pt36.6%

<tbody>
</tbody>

This table is based on graphing lines between the ranges shown at Basketball-Reference. In fact, that 39.7% is incredibly generous, since LeBron has hit less than 18% of his three-pointers this playoffs (compared to 36.6% over five years), so his chances just three feet closer don’t appear great.
In fact, by my unofficial tally, Thursday night LeBron went:
10 of 14 from 10 feet or closer
6 of 15 from 11 to 20 feet
2 of 9 from 20 feet or more.
So on all counts LeBron looks more like a 25% shooter from 21 feet away—so a one in four chance of hitting the game winner on a 21-footer.
The Cavs had the full 24-second clock for LeBron to get as close to the basket as he could, which could have given him close to 50% on the shot.
But to make matters worse, his 21-foot fade away left LeBron almost no chance of inducing a foul.
LeBron gets fouled about one in six times, so if he had attempted to move closer to the basket we would expect an even higher percentage.
Since the score was 98-98, the Cavs needed just one point. LeBron is a 75% foul shooter so if he was fouled there would have been a 94.5% chance he hits at least one of the free throws.
Add it all together, and LeBron appears to have a better than 50-50 chance of hitting the game-winning free throw or shot if he just attempts to get a bit closer to the basket.
Settling for the 21-foot fadeaway likley gave him a 25% chance.

Is John Pudner an alias of Pete Carroll's?

He is leaving out some key info there but cool story anyway.
 

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These Lebron haters are something else,

If he takes the shot he's a ball hog.

If he don't take the shot he's scared and passive .

I never understood that hatred .

How a good guy like Lebron can be so hated and a low life(by many accounts off the court) Jordan can be so loved
 

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These Lebron haters are something else,

If he takes the shot he's a ball hog.

If he don't take the shot he's scared and passive .

I never understood that hatred .

How a good guy like Lebron can be so hated and a low life(by many accounts off the court) Jordan can be so loved

I don't think it really has much to do with a player. It is moreso just how polarizing athletes are now. Brady, Kobe, Tiger, LeBron etc

On this site in particular I can't really think of 1 athlete that everyone universally praises. Maybe someone that people are moreso indifferent about but anyone with a certain level of fame atleast someone is gonna nitpick.

Basketball is a pretty easy sport to makeup these narratives with as well.
 

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I remember a lot of people didn't like Jordan too. I think he'd be slammed on here like any other. Success breeds hate.
 

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I remember a lot of people didn't like Jordan too. I think he'd be slammed on here like any other. Success breeds hate.

He would probably edit his behavior and not go gambling in AC before games, cheat on his wife out in the open and punch teammates.

Just like Charles Barkley probably wouldn't spit on a little girl or throw a guy through a window nowadays
 

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It's tough to quantify the probability but Cleveland is like 35-40% to end the game there.

Seattle should've been like 80-85% to end the superbowl. I mean I know the dude is trying to get clicks but cmon you can't toss around how bad Seattle choked lightly. It was maybe the biggest blunder of all time.
 

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I been to the westgate for the super bowl the last 8 years and the lines are out the door after the game to collect. so the super crowd will wait hours to collect and for basketball they don't want to wait 15 minutes. I didn't know this. you taught me something. very interesting I just looked at the line and thought Vegas books had a good day

I stayed here for March Madness... Had a lot of tickets to cash but lines were way to long...waited till 3 weeks ago when rolling thru town to cash them....lets face it....some people live check to check....need the winners asap.....some don't....some aren't neccesarily around the shop when the game ends. Probably more then half the bettors wagering on this game here were no where near the Westgate when the game ended......just the degenerates getting free drinks with there 2 team parlays...Some in this town probably have accounts and don't even mess with this process.....
 

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I will say this, I'm fine with playing Kyrie all those minutes. Yeah he had tendinitis but he looked good out there. You're in the NBA finals, you're best player isn't getting any younger and even though GS is likely the better team you still got a good chance to win. Not like they knew the game was gonna go OT.

There is value in playing guys less minutes to preserve health but this is the finals and the dude makes 20 million dollars a year. If he can play like that then you need him on the court. What else are you saving him for?

Unless new info comes out that he was playing with a tear already then I don't think you can say they should've taken more precaution with him. Being able to steal last nights game was a big part of their chances to win the series.
 

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Irving is done.....He was a cripple coming into the series.

Did you see him walking off the court??

Breaking news....Irving is done for the rest of the series.

I gotta give myself props....LOL....I called it....He looked like a cripple walking to the lockeroom.....I knew it.
 

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Lebron just single handedly beat both the refs and Golden State. The Cavs just played to really good road games, and now they're coming home.
 

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Lebron just single handedly beat both the refs and Golden State. The Cavs just played to really good road games, and now they're coming home.


How so? His choking at the end almost lost it for them.
 

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Some of you haters are something else.

LJ could have scored 100 with 49 Rebs and 39 assist and some of you would come up with some kind of bullshit about LJ.

Just pathetic.

If Cleveland pulls off this series it will be a greateraccomplishment then anything Jordan ever did his entire career.


Lj taking a lottery team and bitch slapping a team on the road who had one of the best regular seasons in NBA history yet some of you clowns still invent shit to say bad about him.
 

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Some of you haters are something else.

LJ could have scored 100 with 49 Rebs and 39 assist and some of you would come up with some kind of bullshit about LJ.

Just pathetic.

If Cleveland pulls off this series it will be a greateraccomplishment then anything Jordan ever did his entire career.


Lj taking a lottery team and bitch slapping a team on the road who had one of the best regular seasons in NBA history yet some of you clowns still invent shit to say bad about him.


Hoope you don't think im a hater. LB is in the top 3 in the NBA.....he just didn';t play well the last 4 minutes of regulation or in OT. Guess getting stuffed and missing everything but ft's when the game was on the line makes me an idiot. 11-34 is not impressive


As usual.... you might wanna THINK before you type.
 

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