49,000 flu deaths in the US in 2018. The whole state of Nevada is shut down. We've had around 100 cases and two deaths...one guy had ephasema and a woman was older and previously battled cancer. Seems like an appropriate response huh. My wife is a critical care nurse in a local hospital. Who shifts have been canceled because of the lack of elective surgical cases. Guess that means the hospital is not searching for beds or nurses.
People w/ IQ over 70: 1 Billion flu cases/646,000 deaths = .06% Death Rate
343,394 COVID-19 cases/14,773 deaths (updated 3/23) = 4.3% Death Rate
"Without mass quarantines, cities/countries on lock-down and social distancing.... we'd really be in trouble!"
Trumptards: "646,000 flu deaths vs. 14,773 COVID-19 deaths. See! Flu is far deadlier!!!!!!!! COVID-19 is a HOAX!!!!!!! Go outside, touch and lick everything, mingle with crowds and live life to the fullest!!!!!!"
343,394 COVID-19 cases/14,773 deaths (updated 3/23) = 4.3% Death Rate
"Without mass quarantines, cities/countries on lock-down and social distancing.... we'd really be in trouble!"
Trumptards: "646,000 flu deaths vs. 14,773 COVID-19 deaths. See! Flu is far deadlier!!!!!!!! COVID-19 is a HOAX!!!!!!! Go outside, touch and lick everything, mingle with crowds and live life to the fullest!!!!!!"
First off, I don't care about your Red team/Blue Team nonsense or listening to a bunch of Ad Hominems. I don't believe you can have a rational conversation with partisan people as they are unfortunately intellectually rigid and close minded. You can leave your politics at the door.
In regards to the 343k number you are reporting, the number is obviously not something anyone can hang their hat on as there simply wasn't a way to test people so no one would really know that accurate a number on it. About the only accurate number are the amount of deaths. When this post initially went up, there were 7,494 deaths. In 6 days, there have been 7,279 deaths, so 1200 a day out of 7.7 billion people (or 36k in a month if the trend stayed). So is it trending higher than the flu historically? Sure. Is it necessary for the media to give a daily death count and do all the fear mongering they're doing? No. Of course, the doomsday Chicken Little people try to point to this "exponential" thing and claim that it will result in 14-15 million deaths because they have to paint the worst possible scenario (works better for the Nielsen ratings and their narrative), even though the general estimate is 1.2 to 1.5 million.
With that said, my point in making the comment in post #21 is that if we knew how many deaths we had this year of the flu, the number should clearly reflect a reduction from the historical figures. Why? Well clearly when you isolate people there is less of a chance of them catching anything (that shouldn't be rocket science). And obviously that goes for any infectious disease. All the social distancing is doing is slowing down the amount of deaths that have been predicted to be between 1.2 and 1.5 million (just an estimate, as no one really knows). There were similar estimates for Ebola (I believe it was 1.2 million). The end result was a little over 10k (this one is trending higher). And the same "brilliant" people were making the estimates for that and many other diseases that they were dead wrong about.
I thought AzBob point was valid as most elective surgeries have been canceled freeing up people in the industry (I also know of people that had elective surgeries canceled). Regardless of the social distancing, I think the media has done a good enough job of fear mongering that many people in the highest risk group were already isolating themselves, but clearly forcing people to stay at home will have a greater impact. So the question remains, at what cost? Was it worth it to tank the Economy for this and put people at an absolute frenzy to the point where they are having problems just getting groceries? Obviously your answer is "yes" so no need to go beyond and listen to any more of your childish insults to others. Other people disagree with you.
Ultimately, when a vaccine is produced, as a matter of public policy, the government will be able to get a gauge on a more accurate prediction, deem if it is acceptable number (it probably will be) and move on. The mortality rate for those in the highest risk group is high for any disease (not just this one) and that is what is going to be looked. That will be the end of story.
If you think you can make a thoughtful reply to this, feel free. If you can't resist any more Ad Hominems, then don't waste my time as I won't be reading it.
Infections
COVID-19: Approximately 316,187 cases worldwide; 26,747 cases in the U.S. as of Mar. 22, 2020.*
Flu: Estimated 1 billion cases worldwide; 9.3 million to 45 million cases in the U.S. per year.
Deaths
COVID-19: Approximately 13,592 deaths reported worldwide; 340 deaths in the U.S., as of Mar. 22, 2020.*
Flu: 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide; 12,000 to 61,000 deaths in the U.S. per
COVID-19: Approximately 316,187 cases worldwide; 26,747 cases in the U.S. as of Mar. 22, 2020.*
Flu: Estimated 1 billion cases worldwide; 9.3 million to 45 million cases in the U.S. per year.
Deaths
COVID-19: Approximately 13,592 deaths reported worldwide; 340 deaths in the U.S., as of Mar. 22, 2020.*
Flu: 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide; 12,000 to 61,000 deaths in the U.S. per
At 4.3% death rate, it would only take 15 Million COVID-19 cases to equal the 646,000 flu deaths.
With 1 Billion cases (same as the flu), there would be 43 Million COVID-19 deaths.
If you still can't understand why this is serious and requires serious measures then you're probably too stupid to survive for long anyways so go out and have a good time.
With 1 Billion cases (same as the flu), there would be 43 Million COVID-19 deaths.
If you still can't understand why this is serious and requires serious measures then you're probably too stupid to survive for long anyways so go out and have a good time.
Where do you get this 4.3% bullshit
This website has actually been a Godsend. My daughter told me my son-in-law was freaking out. I simply told her to tell him to turn off the news and just follow this website to give him some perspective. I told her not to get too caught up with the number of people contracting the disease as that number was bound to go up since test kits weren't available (and there is still a deficiency in them...no one really can give an accurate figure on how many people had previously contracted this virus). With that said, despite the doomsayers predictions:
Deaths today (15374) less Deaths at the start of thread (7494). Divide by 7 and you get 1125 per day (big whoop). Over a 60 day period, we're looking at 67500. Over a year, it still won't top the high end on the amount of deaths by the flu (in fact, it's not even close).
Deaths today U.S. (473) less Death at the start of thread (85). Divide by 7 and you get 67 deaths per day. Over a 60 day period, we're looking at 4020. Over a year, it gets to 48000 or about the same as the flu.
Hmmmm?
You'd think the end of the world was here if you read the small amount of people on this site that continuously post as much fear mongering information that they can find.
Deaths today (15374) less Deaths at the start of thread (7494). Divide by 7 and you get 1125 per day (big whoop). Over a 60 day period, we're looking at 67500. Over a year, it still won't top the high end on the amount of deaths by the flu (in fact, it's not even close).
Deaths today U.S. (473) less Death at the start of thread (85). Divide by 7 and you get 67 deaths per day. Over a 60 day period, we're looking at 4020. Over a year, it gets to 48000 or about the same as the flu.
Hmmmm?
You'd think the end of the world was here if you read the small amount of people on this site that continuously post as much fear mongering information that they can find.
