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race is an overblown issue. 10-15 years ago id say might have been a factor, but i dont see it playing big here. yea you'll have some who vote against him because of race, but you also have people who wont vote for mccain because he's old. as much i hate on america, i think the country is remarkably better on race relations today then 10-15 years ago. white favorability with mccain and obama are practically even.

the R next to the mccain name is what will kill him.
Don't kid yourself..Race is not an overblown issue..I've already talked to a few people who came right out and told me they wouldn't vote for him because he's black..Of course, they aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer...But there are alot of dull utensils out there..There is much more prejudice in this country than people think..But many just don't come out an announce it to everybody..And that's what makes the idea of a Obama win a little shaky.
 

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So who's their pick for the election, gtc?

Obama.

Seems you could make yourself lots of :money8: with this information,


exactly, rest assured I'm loaded up...in fact I'm still offering McCain +200


especially in any market that will be adversely impacted by Obama's massive capital gains tax hikes.

yes, one of the reasons the market has been selling off, smart money is baking an Obama presidency "into the cake" in advance, which is the definition of smart money, no?...I'm good to go in this area too, others should adjust portfolios as well
 

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obama is the perfect guy for the illuminati to choose. global background, change the currency to the amero, and form the north american union in his 2 terms. also complete the nafta superhighway.

now ron paul is who i was originally interested in because he said he'd get rid of the fed, but then i realized if he got elected he'd end up dead like kennedy for opening the mouth the way he did. best play along like mccain and obama.
 

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i would put some money$$$$$$$$$$$ on McCain.

small money.

something will crawl outta the woodworkd by October.

99% of Blacks will vote for Obama. Gee I wonder why?? Nah they are not racist !No not them !

I was thinking more along the lines that Obama is for change!


hehehehehe. TAKE McCAIN + the cash

Good Luck
 

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also look for a national drivers licensce and implant chips that will be used as more "convenience" for the typical lazy american. oh yea, i'll gladly put this bar code in my arm so i dont have to stand in line at the grocery store. there already using implant chips in iraq with soldiers.

you people are fools if you think your vote will have any say in the election.
 

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GTC if you interpret that like the 'narrator' in the last 20 seconds you've gone off the deep end. Oh, and did the background music frighten you?
 

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I think Obama is going to win easily and will have some big money on him at -200 or whatever it's at now. Race will have an impact on the election as most blacks will be voting for Obama. He will get a lot of white votes though. He is a great leader though and that is who I would vote for if I was an American.

Interesting conspiracy theory about the illuminati though gtc.
 

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I don't follow this shit as closely as you guys on here do but heres what I do know...Obama is a black guy, I will vote for him cause I think just the brand Republican is just bad. But America in general won't vote for him just cause he's black, He won't drill off shore, they say he flip flops on alot of issues, plus on top of all of that Mcbush is with in 4% of him if the election was held today, and we all know thats with in the margin of error. Some one please tell me how that adds up to that black guy being over a 2-1 favorite?

Congratulations Kevin. You have just joined the legions of empty headed bafoons that will vote for Obama just because he is not Republican.

Looks like CNN, CBS and NBC have done their job.
 

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I think Obama is going to win easily and will have some big money on him at -200 or whatever it's at now. Race will have an impact on the election as most blacks will be voting for Obama. He will get a lot of white votes though. He is a great leader though and that is who I would vote for if I was an American.

Interesting conspiracy theory about the illuminati though gtc.

He is a great leader? WTF are you talking about? He is a charismatic pigeon that was hand picked by the Democratic election machine. Please tell me ONE thing that he has done to be called a leader except change his opinions and comments on EVERY issue based on who he is speaking to and how far the election is...

GEEZ man...the one thing he is NOT is experienced and knowledgable...He will have Muslims and Mexicans prayers in every public school in the nation before he is done if he wins...
 

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He is a great leader? WTF are you talking about? He is a charismatic pigeon that was hand picked by the Democratic election machine. Please tell me ONE thing that he has done to be called a leader except change his opinions and comments on EVERY issue based on who he is speaking to and how far the election is...

GEEZ man...the one thing he is NOT is experienced and knowledgable...He will have Muslims and Mexicans prayers in every public school in the nation before he is done if he wins...

so what, its going to happen under mccain too. christian way of this country is dying which i think is great because i hate religiion, and other religions are becoming stronger, i dont like that but its evolution. all of these religions are the reason for world problems, all full of gullible people that we need to get rid of.
 

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He is a great leader? WTF are you talking about? He is a charismatic pigeon that was hand picked by the Democratic election machine. Please tell me ONE thing that he has done to be called a leader except change his opinions and comments on EVERY issue based on who he is speaking to and how far the election is...

GEEZ man...the one thing he is NOT is experienced and knowledgable...He will have Muslims and Mexicans prayers in every public school in the nation before he is done if he wins...

A large part of being a great leader is management skills. In Obama's 1st presidential try he has run a much smoother and stronger campaighn than Hillary (her 3rd) or McCain (his 2nd).
 
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More spirited debate?:):)

While Joe certainly participates in the pissing contests down here, he also does participate in policy debate. It's a mixed bag, but he does add to the discussion (on the rare occasion we have a decent discussion down here) when he wants to.
 

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While Joe certainly participates in the pissing contests down here, he also does participate in policy debate. It's a mixed bag, but he does add to the discussion (on the rare occasion we have a decent discussion down here) when he wants to.

He will spew his conspiracy garbage on occasion but most of his reason for being here is me.

He tries to claim there was great debates years ago, when all evidence points to the same things happening then as well.....just different posters. He was banned several times under his previous name.....so how much civil debate was going on
 
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He will spew his conspiracy garbage on occasion but most of his reason for being here is me.

He tries to claim there was great debates years ago, when all evidence points to the same things happening then as well.....just different posters. He was banned several times under his previous name.....so how much civil debate was going on

The bold is obviously not true. He was here before you, he was here when you were gone for a year and he'll be here after you leave.

I also disagree with the second half of your post. If you look at many of the old threads that you bump, there's a lot of bull shit but it's mixed in with discussion about politics. Now every thread devolves into arguments about poker frauds and who's too soft to accept a bet.
 

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While Joe certainly participates in the pissing contests down here, he also does participate in policy debate. It's a mixed bag, but he does add to the discussion (on the rare occasion we have a decent discussion down here) when he wants to.

Well said. Deserves a "nailed it" meme.

If people want to debate policy, I'll debate policy. But it's not going to happen with the three stooges (poker fraud vtard: "Sheriff Howser", MIA +8; The Guesser: "vile terrorist kiddie diddling-supporting POS sick cult members"; dafinch and his felching/moose cock obsessions) soiling every thread.

I keep waiting for a Patsfan-like lefty to appear, but it just doesn't happen.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program:

"Vitterd Nation"

face)(*^%
 

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The bold is obviously not true. He was here before you, he was here when you were gone for a year and he'll be here after you leave.

I also disagree with the second half of your post. If you look at many of the old threads that you bump, there's a lot of bull shit but it's mixed in with discussion about politics. Now every thread devolves into arguments about poker frauds and who's too soft to accept a bet.

If you breakdown the percentages of his posts.....the large majority are about me or mention me in some way.....even in threads and discussions I'm not involved in. And even when I was gone for a year, many of his posts included me in some way.

There were posters in the past that discussed policy in those threads......most of it was not him. He turned them into the same cancer he does with today's threads.

I mean, why do yo think he had multiple bans under his previous name? Why do you think he's been banned from EOG ? Why did that place turn into a shit show when he was there? It wasn't from spirited debate.
 
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If you breakdown the percentages of his posts.....the large majority are about me or mention me in some way.....even in threads and discussions I'm not involved in. And even when I was gone for a year, many of his posts included me in some way.

There were posters in the past that discussed policy in those threads......most of it was not him. He turned them into the same cancer he does with today's threads.

I mean, why do yo think he had multiple bans under his previous name? Why do you think he's been banned from EOG ? Why did that place turn into a shit show when he was there? It wasn't from spirited debate.

None of what you've posted here refutes that Joe is capable of (and does at times) discuss policy. He may participate in the other bull shit but he has shown that he is capable of discussing policy.
 

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"We finally had to ban vitard because everyone was sick and tired of his big mouth" - mod at different forum

When poker fraud vitard came out of nowhere (yeah right!) and started defecating all over the forum with his usual antics, it became his forum.

It's like a nude beach - once the gays start going, everyone else stops going.

Many solid posters abandoned the poly forum the day vtard showed up and the ones remaining post, well, according to the "vtard standard"

The troll dumbs down every thread and ruins the forum for everyone. Long before 'I' arrived, vtard was threatening to rape people's wives and dogs - it's who he is and what he does.

His current sig tells you all need to know.
 

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