Those quarter backs on the bench are not NFL QBs. Why do you think no one gave a contract offer to Todd Collins after going 4-0? Could it be he was a product of Al Saunders sysetm and when asked to win a game vs Seattle in the playoffs-he threw interceptions galore. Colt Brennan really? Able? We've seen him in college and pre-season as a 3rd stringer but lets throw him in there. :nohead:
don't you think that big strong probowl lineman that are good at manhandeling defenders are usually good at both?
Chris Samuels is better than Diehl
Rabauch is above average
Thomas is pro bowl caliber
Jansen is more of a run blocker ( most RTs are)
but washington has a very good offensive line. OK, your line isn't as good as the cowboys line, but I don't know what you are complaining about.
If you want to see a shitty O-line, watch a seattle, lions or raiders game. Your line is good.
Todd collins had a qb rating over 100, had a great td int ration, more yards passing per game, better rythem, more wins ( against good teams too). Campbell was healthy enough to play at the end of last year, but Gibbs stuck with the vet.
Collins is old. To simply cast him off as a system qb is a joke.
Jason Campbell in fact had the best or 2nd best rb duo in college football history. If you want to get technical, with Brown, Caddy and Jacobs, he had maybe the most talented backfield in college football history at one point in time .... I'd say that awsome rb combo helped out his career. He isn't a 1st round qb.
I think you can say Brennan isn't an NFL QB, but quite unfair to say the same about Collins. He is a career backup, but a winning one. He also led game winning drives for WAS in that win streak. He definitely stunk it up @ SEA, but at that time, SEA's "D" was fearsome @ home. Brennan would definitely throw some picks too, but I tell you, I'd much rather have Colt or Todd if I was down a TD, with 2 min left in gm.
campbell is horrible in the 2 min and at the end of games...
How about the Giants game in week 3 of last year that ended because Campbell couldn't get the damn plays off. It ended at the goal line... 1 .. yard... short
How about throwing a pick in the endzone at the end of the tampa game last year?
How about the f-ups at the end of the dallas game... todd collins beat dallas.
How about the f-ups in the eagles 2nd game last year?
campbell is horrible at that.
well campbell certainly isnt the future of the skins in my opinion but in fairness he has had to learn a new offense for about 5 or 6 straight seasons now. the guy holds the ball way too long and doesnt try to get it down field. i expect the redskins to go after mcnabb or cassel in the off season.
So I am supposed to feel sympathy because Campbell had to learn different offenses his Junior and Senior year of college?????
Hey, don't hold it against the NFL rookie... he had to get adjusted to a new coach and new system.
Don't hold it against the college freshman, he had to adjust to a new scheme.
Don't hold it against the player that had a different coach his junior and senior year of college and is an NFL rookie.... he had to learn 3 systems in 3 years.
Anything to provide an excuse for Campbell. He is like Mike Vick and can do no wrong. When he takes a sack, he has no line, and when he throws a 2 yard pass on 3rd and 8, he has no receivers.
Funny how it worked for Todd Collins last year, and Matt Ryan this year.
Hey, don't hold it against the NFL rookie... he had to get adjusted to a new coach and new system.
Don't hold it against the college freshman, he had to adjust to a new scheme.
Don't hold it against the player that had a different coach his junior and senior year of college and is an NFL rookie.... he had to learn 3 systems in 3 years.
Anything to provide an excuse for Campbell. He is like Mike Vick and can do no wrong. When he takes a sack, he has no line, and when he throws a 2 yard pass on 3rd and 8, he has no receivers.
Funny how it worked for Todd Collins last year, and Matt Ryan this year.
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im not making excuses for campbell at all, i think hes an average at best qb, i think the redskins have given him all the chances in the world to be the qb that would be the future of the franchise. just making the point of him having to adjust to new systems and new coaches every year, no player would be a superstar in that situation, dont see that as saying hes a great qb by any means or feeling sorry for him.
im not making excuses for campbell at all, i think hes an average at best qb, i think the redskins have given him all the chances in the world to be the qb that would be the future of the franchise. just making the point of him having to adjust to new systems and new coaches every year, no player would be a superstar in that situation, dont see that as saying hes a great qb by any means or feeling sorry for him.
Well I just see that argument by washington fans all the time. They think that because he had a different offense in Junior year, Senior year, rookie year, and even again that he get's some get out of jail free card.
I've just never really seen a guy get so many excuses. Mike Vick had the most, but the Redskins were always talking about how stacked their team was... we signed randel el, Moss, cooley, portis, thomas, kelly, davis, their line...
but then Campbell fails and you see the blame pointed everywhere. I am supposed to feel bad for him because he changed offenses his junior year in college? I mean, the guy had the most talented RB class in college football in over a decade, and people act like he got a raw deal?
He wasn't even active for most of his rookie year. He got to sit back and take it all in. The Redskins fans want to defend their guy, but if they were smart, they would either let Collins take over to try and win now, or just start rebuilding with Colt Brennan.
I've just never really seen a guy get so many excuses. Mike Vick had the most, but the Redskins were always talking about how stacked their team was... we signed randel el, Moss, cooley, portis, thomas, kelly, davis, their line...
but then Campbell fails and you see the blame pointed everywhere. I am supposed to feel bad for him because he changed offenses his junior year in college? I mean, the guy had the most talented RB class in college football in over a decade, and people act like he got a raw deal?
He wasn't even active for most of his rookie year. He got to sit back and take it all in. The Redskins fans want to defend their guy, but if they were smart, they would either let Collins take over to try and win now, or just start rebuilding with Colt Brennan.
