Colorado Sells $19 Million in Cannabis in March: $1.9 Million Goes to Schools and Crime Down 10%

[Enfuego]

Raise your hand if you believe for one second that this money will get to the schools, as stated.

Also..... this just in..... The reason crime was down 10%......... More than 10% of the cops where HIGH during their shifts and failed to arrest or detain anyone. This 10% in addition to the group that were already asleep after eating their allotment of donuts.

I raise my hand. It's mandated by state law as is a certain amount of money that must go to anti-drug campaigns as well.

 

[SECplayer]

if they banned booze do you think people wouldn't get it somehow? Same goes with Pot and whatever drug you want to name .

'This Is Working': Portugal, 12 Years after Decriminalizing Drugs

By Wiebke Hollersen

Twelve years ago, Portugal eliminated criminal penalties for drug users. Since then, those caught with small amounts of marijuana, cocaine or heroin go unindicted and possession is a misdemeanor on par with illegal parking. Experts are pleased with the results.

http://www.spiegel.de/international...tion-in-portugal-12-years-later-a-891060.html

Im ok with the decriminalizatiin of marijuana. Inevitable and not surprising that we are behind other countries in doing so.

But decriminalizing heroin??? Now that is a crazy move by Portugal.

 

[scottcarter]

Im ok with the decriminalizatiin of marijuana. Inevitable and not surprising that we are behind other countries in doing so.

But decriminalizing heroin??? Now that is a crazy move by Portugal.

I say legalize everything. Making it illegal will not prevent people getting it. Who are we to decide?

 

[SECplayer]

I say legalize everything. Making it illegal will not prevent people getting it. Who are we to decide?

I see your point. But marijuana is arguably a pretty harmless drug. Never been a marijuana user but it's arguably no worse than alcohol and I drink plenty of that.

But heroin is a flat out nasty drug. I think it should stay illegal just because it is so much more dangerous and addicting.

Keeping it illegal will not prevent people from still getting it (admitted) but it will make it more difficult to get. Just my two cents.

 

[MikeB]

I say legalize everything. Making it illegal will not prevent people getting it. Who are we to decide?

I disagree with that logic.

Let's follow what you said one or two steps forward....dealing drugs to children.......robbing banks....maybe murder?

If that is where we set the bar then everything will eventually be legal.

 

[TheComputerGroup]

Bottom line for all this is M-O-N-E-Y.......the politicians, police, dea, , etc..could care less if you OD on drugs or you spend your last dollar on the stuff.

The entire drug war is a 100% scam, always has been & always will be. It employs way too many people to legalize.......in fact, agencies & other high ranking officials bring in the drugs by the ship load, only to arrest & send you to prison for doing the same drugs they brought in.

Its called the revolving door.......it keeps going round & round.

Nixon help start the drug war & the dea & they know its not winnable, it was never started with winning the war, if they did win, they would be out of a lot of money & there would be a lot of people out of jobs

War on drugs is a complete joke & if the US decriminalized all drugs like Portugal, we would see dea agents become drug dealers themselves or getting jobs working at McDonalds .......

 

[JustinCruise]

The amount of potheads in this country is pathetic

 

[Shub]

The amount of potheads in this country is pathetic

What is a pothead? Are you against marijuana? Why? Just because it's not your cup of tea doesn't mean you have to down those that choose to partake. You're pathetic.

 

[GoSooners]

Not even close...they would much rather move Meth, Coke, MDMA or heroin than weed.

Legalizing weed (which they should) will only make cartels more profitable in the long run. This isn't 1970 anymore

Losing billions in Colorado alone???????? That's some laughable shit there. Ever since Colorado made psuedo ephedrine illegal... the cartels have put all the meth labs out of business and making billions.

Meth is more a local drug that can be cooked up anywhere. The cartels would be left with coke and heroin. But losing the pot market is like Wal Mart losing their entire food section. It would take a huge chunk out of their business. It would also allow the DEA to concentrate 100% on the other drug markets. Which would take more money out of the pockets of the cartels. But like I stated before, the DEA is going to fight tooth an nail to make sure pot is never federally legalized. They stand too much to lose. They would no longer get their big boy toys and huge budgets. I'm still not totally convinced that legalizing pot is going to work in these legal states. The DEA could still walk into any marijuana dispensary in Colorado and arrest everyone, and also seize their money if they wanted to.

 

[TheComputerGroup]

The amount of potheads in this country is pathetic

Of course there are a lot of pot smokers, its the #1 illegal drug in the states.


I'm assuming you don't do drugs, well neither do I, nor do I drink alcohol........I think alcohol is the worst drug in this world & its definitely more toxic to your body.

The number of alcoholics & cigarette users in the country is pathetic & they both kill more people than all other drugs by a landslide & they're legal.

You don't have to be a drug user to understand a logical argument & how the public has been deceived & brainwashed.

 

[Shub]

Meth is more a local drug that can be cooked up anywhere. The cartels would be left with coke and heroin. But losing the pot market is like Wal Mart losing their entire food section. It would take a huge chunk out of their business. It would also allow the DEA to concentrate 100% on the other drug markets. Which would take more money out of the pockets of the cartels. But like I stated before, the DEA is going to fight tooth an nail to make sure pot is never federally legalized. They stand too much to lose. They would no longer get their big boy toys and huge budgets. I'm still not totally convinced that legalizing pot is going to work in these legal states. The DEA could still walk into any marijuana dispensary in Colorado and arrest everyone, and also seize their money if they wanted to.

legalizing it is the only solution. It's a crime that it's still schedule 1.

 

[GoSooners]

legalizing it is the only solution. It's a crime that it's still schedule 1.

I agree about legalizing it. They need to make it federal instead of these few scattershot states.

 

[carlspackler]

Those saying that pot coming over the border is the bread and butter of cartels are wrong. I live on the East Coast and for at least the last ten years pot has been a local cottage industry. It's all high quality and locally grown. If you ever found yourself buying something that came over the border you would be worse than desperate.

 

[GoSooners]

Those saying that pot coming over the border is the bread and butter of cartels are wrong. I live on the East Coast and for at least the last ten years pot has been a local cottage industry. It's all high quality and locally grown. If you ever found yourself buying something that came over the border you would be worse than desperate.

That may be true where you live. But where I live along the I-35 corridor, the main route for shipping drugs, I still see huge pot busts at least a couple times a year along that route. All coming from the Mexican Cartels. Before legalization in Washington and Colorado, about 10 million pounds of pot were grown in the U.S. every year. But 40 million pounds came from Mexico. About 40% of their business came from pot. Which is a huge chunk. So yes, I would consider pot the bread and butter of cartels. It's the drug of choice in the U.S. So it only makes sense.

 

[Shub]

That may be true where you live. But where I live along the I-35 corridor, the main route for shipping drugs, I still see huge pot busts at least a couple times a year along that route. All coming from the Mexican Cartels. Before legalization in Washington and Colorado, about 10 million pounds of pot were grown in the U.S. every year. But 40 million pounds came from Mexico. About 40% of their business came from pot. Which is a huge chunk. So yes, I would consider pot the bread and butter of cartels. It's the drug of choice in the U.S. So it only makes sense.

i agree 100% sooner.

 

[TheComputerGroup]

Those saying that pot coming over the border is the bread and butter of cartels are wrong. I live on the East Coast and for at least the last ten years pot has been a local cottage industry. It's all high quality and locally grown. If you ever found yourself buying something that came over the border you would be worse than desperate.

Carl, the cartels have gotten wiser in their methods of growing pot. They know the brick weed they use to sell back in the day isn't what people want to smoke anymore.

Its the high grade weed that everyone wants. The cartels have gone into growing better weed & with high grade weed comes bigger prices & more profits

 

[PatsFanatic]

Those saying that pot coming over the border is the bread and butter of cartels are wrong. I live on the East Coast and for at least the last ten years pot has been a local cottage industry. It's all high quality and locally grown. If you ever found yourself buying something that came over the border you would be worse than desperate.

I agree with you that the majority of pot in the East/Northeast is locally harvested. Atleast 100% of the pot I smoke is. Its way better. I haven't seen brick mexican junk since I was at UMASS 15+ years ago. Now that you have legalize medical marijuana in a few states up here EVERYONE is growing it. Saw my cousin in Maine for a bag last weekend. My wifes relatives in VT are into growing as well. Its everywhere. Why would you bother bringing it up from Mexico with that risk??

Now, maybe the Cartels are growing better stuff these days. But I just don't see it. Way more money in the white stuff IMO.

 

[loomis41973]

Meth is more a local drug that can be cooked up anywhere. The cartels would be left with coke and heroin. But losing the pot market is like Wal Mart losing their entire food section. It would take a huge chunk out of their business. It would also allow the DEA to concentrate 100% on the other drug markets. Which would take more money out of the pockets of the cartels. But like I stated before, the DEA is going to fight tooth an nail to make sure pot is never federally legalized. They stand too much to lose. They would no longer get their big boy toys and huge budgets. I'm still not totally convinced that legalizing pot is going to work in these legal states. The DEA could still walk into any marijuana dispensary in Colorado and arrest everyone, and also seize their money if they wanted to.

Most of the meth comes from Mexico now....they have easy access to the cold pills you need to makeit. Damn near impossible to get here in the USA in any quantity.

 

[scottcarter]

I disagree with that logic.

Let's follow what you said one or two steps forward....dealing drugs to children.......robbing banks....maybe murder?

If that is where we set the bar then everything will eventually be legal.

I never said making murder or robbing banks legal. How did you possibly make that leap from my comment?

Anyways, they are dealing drugs to children now and have been doing it forever. The difference is by making it legal you can create jobs, collect taxes, reduce the prison population and keep out the criminal element.

You will never stop people from using all sorts of drugs including alcohol and cigarettes. They have been fighting the "war on drugs" forever and how's that working out?

 

[GoSooners]

Most of the meth comes from Mexico now....they have easy access to the cold pills you need to makeit. Damn near impossible to get here in the USA in any quantity.

That may be true now. But we still have meth lab busts here in Oklahoma. Just not as many as we used to. The state with the most meth lab busts is a state you should be familiar with, Indiana. So they're getting the cold pills from somewhere...