You Are No Different Than Brian
I don't hate a winner chuck, I would love nothing more than to see one of you actually do what you say you can do. It can't always be, well I got the line at 1- I'm sorry you got 3, that is bullshit. If you are really winning games for people then why would you have any problem with letting someone accurately monitor your plays? Only possible reason is that over time you know that you won't win. As you can see from your buddy Brian's thread he sure as hell doesn't win over time. Thats what this is about, long term winning, not a day or two or a month or two. Can you actually win for people over time? You and all the touts of the world want everyone to think that is what they do, but you are all afraid of being exposed. Even the ones that win at the sports monitor are usually one of 5 or 6 services that operation has and they hang their hat on that one that is doing well at that time. Even your buddy brian uses his "front page" and other handicappers like he used you to create the illusion that were winning even if they(he, you) are costing their clients thousands. It is all bullshit and you know it. If you are the man you say you are than grow some balls and show us. Truth is your not.
I don't hate a winner chuck, I would love nothing more than to see one of you actually do what you say you can do. It can't always be, well I got the line at 1- I'm sorry you got 3, that is bullshit. If you are really winning games for people then why would you have any problem with letting someone accurately monitor your plays? Only possible reason is that over time you know that you won't win. As you can see from your buddy Brian's thread he sure as hell doesn't win over time. Thats what this is about, long term winning, not a day or two or a month or two. Can you actually win for people over time? You and all the touts of the world want everyone to think that is what they do, but you are all afraid of being exposed. Even the ones that win at the sports monitor are usually one of 5 or 6 services that operation has and they hang their hat on that one that is doing well at that time. Even your buddy brian uses his "front page" and other handicappers like he used you to create the illusion that were winning even if they(he, you) are costing their clients thousands. It is all bullshit and you know it. If you are the man you say you are than grow some balls and show us. Truth is your not.
VERY WELL SAID, JIMMY MAC!
I'm going to repost it for everyone to read it twice! Here's for the bump!
from jimmy mac
"I don't hate a winner chuck, I would love nothing more than to see one of you actually do what you say you can do. It can't always be, well I got the line at 1- I'm sorry you got 3, that is bullshit. If you are really winning games for people then why would you have any problem with letting someone accurately monitor your plays? Only possible reason is that over time you know that you won't win. As you can see from your buddy Brian's thread he sure as hell doesn't win over time. Thats what this is about, long term winning, not a day or two or a month or two. Can you actually win for people over time? You and all the touts of the world want everyone to think that is what they do, but you are all afraid of being exposed. Even the ones that win at the sports monitor are usually one of 5 or 6 services that operation has and they hang their hat on that one that is doing well at that time. Even your buddy brian uses his "front page" and other handicappers like he used you to create the illusion that were winning even if they(he, you) are costing their clients thousands. It is all bullshit and you know it. If you are the man you say you are than grow some balls and show us. Truth is your not."
I'm going to repost it for everyone to read it twice! Here's for the bump!
from jimmy mac
"I don't hate a winner chuck, I would love nothing more than to see one of you actually do what you say you can do. It can't always be, well I got the line at 1- I'm sorry you got 3, that is bullshit. If you are really winning games for people then why would you have any problem with letting someone accurately monitor your plays? Only possible reason is that over time you know that you won't win. As you can see from your buddy Brian's thread he sure as hell doesn't win over time. Thats what this is about, long term winning, not a day or two or a month or two. Can you actually win for people over time? You and all the touts of the world want everyone to think that is what they do, but you are all afraid of being exposed. Even the ones that win at the sports monitor are usually one of 5 or 6 services that operation has and they hang their hat on that one that is doing well at that time. Even your buddy brian uses his "front page" and other handicappers like he used you to create the illusion that were winning even if they(he, you) are costing their clients thousands. It is all bullshit and you know it. If you are the man you say you are than grow some balls and show us. Truth is your not."
Finished
Well...this does it for me. Jimmymac, I would like to speak to you via email correspondence, so please email me when you have the chance. You have done an incredible job with the MAC thread for the past year, and I cannot thank you enough for this!
Please continue to post the plays for MAC's service thru the Superbowl....I'm done with it.
When I came to these threads, the focus seemed to be Brian Mac. With people like Neverlose and Duke of Dildos, this shit is really getting old. When have either of them posted, in any thread, that didn't have to do with what Chuck Luck did last year?? The answer is never!!
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Neverlose...we all know your real name, your cell number, and worst of all...that you unfortunately call Mississippi your home. God help you.
Duke, you thrive on the past...and more importantly, cannot put it behind you. Go jump off a bridge, society is better off without you or your posts about THE SAME SHIT EVERYDAY!!! IT'S OLD, AND HOPEFULLY DONE!uppy:
As far as last year for Chuck, I cannot testify to that...I wasn't with him. On the other hand, everyone wants to put a monitoring thread on this man. Where was the monitoring thread during the entire football season, especially the bowl games?? About every bowl game was posted...and he fucking kicked ass..you all know it (W.VA, Texas....the list goes on!). Any so-called "tout" could post here, win, and get bashed in the process. It sucks. This man has never asked me for a dime, and helped me out after being down with MAC's service. If anyone was here during the bowls, and played the games Chuck posted, they made a fortune.
In the meantime...best of luck to everyone and their wagers thru the Superbowl, basketball, and baseball. We're all here to win money. If someone is stupid enough to pay hefty fees to do so...that's their problem. Nobody, and I repeat NOBODY, should feel sorry for them.
Double J
Well...this does it for me. Jimmymac, I would like to speak to you via email correspondence, so please email me when you have the chance. You have done an incredible job with the MAC thread for the past year, and I cannot thank you enough for this!
Please continue to post the plays for MAC's service thru the Superbowl....I'm done with it. When I came to these threads, the focus seemed to be Brian Mac. With people like Neverlose and Duke of Dildos, this shit is really getting old. When have either of them posted, in any thread, that didn't have to do with what Chuck Luck did last year?? The answer is never!!
ucking: Neverlose...we all know your real name, your cell number, and worst of all...that you unfortunately call Mississippi your home. God help you.
Duke, you thrive on the past...and more importantly, cannot put it behind you. Go jump off a bridge, society is better off without you or your posts about THE SAME SHIT EVERYDAY!!! IT'S OLD, AND HOPEFULLY DONE!
uppy: As far as last year for Chuck, I cannot testify to that...I wasn't with him. On the other hand, everyone wants to put a monitoring thread on this man. Where was the monitoring thread during the entire football season, especially the bowl games?? About every bowl game was posted...and he fucking kicked ass..you all know it (W.VA, Texas....the list goes on!). Any so-called "tout" could post here, win, and get bashed in the process. It sucks. This man has never asked me for a dime, and helped me out after being down with MAC's service. If anyone was here during the bowls, and played the games Chuck posted, they made a fortune.
In the meantime...best of luck to everyone and their wagers thru the Superbowl, basketball, and baseball. We're all here to win money. If someone is stupid enough to pay hefty fees to do so...that's their problem. Nobody, and I repeat NOBODY, should feel sorry for them.
Double J
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JIMMYMAC....
MY CLIENTS WOULD TELL YOU THAT I DO WIN OVER TIME....
HOW WOULD YOU KNOW THAT I DON'T??
AND I REALLY COULD GIVE A SHIT WHAT ANYONE THAT DOES NOTHING ALL DAY BUT POST NEGATIVE CRAP ABOUT ANOTHER MAN THAT THEY ARE JEALOUS OF THINKS ....
SPEND 'SOME' OF YOUR DAY DOING SOMETHING EXCEPT THINKING ABOUT ME... TRY IT.. YOU MAY JUST LIKE IT...
:money::money:
MY CLIENTS WOULD TELL YOU THAT I DO WIN OVER TIME....
HOW WOULD YOU KNOW THAT I DON'T??
AND I REALLY COULD GIVE A SHIT WHAT ANYONE THAT DOES NOTHING ALL DAY BUT POST NEGATIVE CRAP ABOUT ANOTHER MAN THAT THEY ARE JEALOUS OF THINKS ....
SPEND 'SOME' OF YOUR DAY DOING SOMETHING EXCEPT THINKING ABOUT ME... TRY IT.. YOU MAY JUST LIKE IT...
:money::money:
I MUST ASK A QUESTION... WHAT IS UP ALL OF A SUDDEN WITH EVERYONE WANTING TO MONITOR MY GAMES????
WHY???
WHAT DOES IT REALLY MATTER IF I SUCK ANYWAY???
WHY WOULD YOU WANT MY GAMES?? HELL I'VE POSTED AT THIS SITE FOR YEARS FOR ALL TO SEE...
SOME WINNERS.... SOME LOSERS.... BUT MOSTLY WINNERS AND SOME VERY LARGE ML UNDERDOG WINNERS GOING BACK FOR YEARS....
YOU BASHERS ARE THE ONES WANTING TO MONITOR MY GAMES????
YOU HAVE ALREADY STATED THAT I SUCK.... SO GET OVER IT...
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OH, I GET IT YOU STILL WANT THE GAMES FOR FREE SO MAYBE YOU CAN GET A 2ND HALF WINNER... GOT IT
PICK YOUR OWN GAMES IF YOU ARE BETTER THAN ME... THAT'S COOL OR PAY SOMEONE ELSE... OR JUST LOSE ... OR JUST STOP BETTING..
OR... GET A FUCKING LIFE.............
YOU GUYS ARE UNREAL... ALL THE BASHERS HERE EXCEPT ONE HAS NEVER EVER BEEN A CLIENT OF MINE AND THE ONE THAT WAS... NEVERWIN... STIFFED ME AND DID NOT PAY ME AS HE PROMISED HE WOULD THEN STARTS CALLING ME DRUNK AT 2AM AFTER HIS MOMMY BEAT HIS ASS FOR WETTING THE BED AGAIN..
CHILDREN REALLY...
GET A LIFEuppy:
WHY???
WHAT DOES IT REALLY MATTER IF I SUCK ANYWAY???
WHY WOULD YOU WANT MY GAMES?? HELL I'VE POSTED AT THIS SITE FOR YEARS FOR ALL TO SEE...
SOME WINNERS.... SOME LOSERS.... BUT MOSTLY WINNERS AND SOME VERY LARGE ML UNDERDOG WINNERS GOING BACK FOR YEARS....
YOU BASHERS ARE THE ONES WANTING TO MONITOR MY GAMES????
YOU HAVE ALREADY STATED THAT I SUCK.... SO GET OVER IT...
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OH, I GET IT YOU STILL WANT THE GAMES FOR FREE SO MAYBE YOU CAN GET A 2ND HALF WINNER... GOT IT
PICK YOUR OWN GAMES IF YOU ARE BETTER THAN ME... THAT'S COOL OR PAY SOMEONE ELSE... OR JUST LOSE ... OR JUST STOP BETTING..
OR... GET A FUCKING LIFE.............
YOU GUYS ARE UNREAL... ALL THE BASHERS HERE EXCEPT ONE HAS NEVER EVER BEEN A CLIENT OF MINE AND THE ONE THAT WAS... NEVERWIN... STIFFED ME AND DID NOT PAY ME AS HE PROMISED HE WOULD THEN STARTS CALLING ME DRUNK AT 2AM AFTER HIS MOMMY BEAT HIS ASS FOR WETTING THE BED AGAIN..
CHILDREN REALLY...
GET A LIFE
uppy: Nice try ***. The reason we want your games monitored is to show people paying for services is stupid. That your a scammer and a joke. Hell you can read. We requested that your games be posted after they start. So you know god damn well we dont want your plays to play ourselves. So you can go think of some more excuses. As long as scum like you and Mac continue to try and take peoples hard earned money there will be people like us to expose your pathetic ass. You will eventually have to get a job like everyone else or become a bigger bum than you are now. Your choice prick.SmokeyWins said:I MUST ASK A QUESTION... WHAT IS UP ALL OF A SUDDEN WITH EVERYONE WANTING TO MONITOR MY GAMES????
WHY???
WHAT DOES IT REALLY MATTER IF I SUCK ANYWAY???
WHY WOULD YOU WANT MY GAMES?? HELL I'VE POSTED AT THIS SITE FOR YEARS FOR ALL TO SEE...
SOME WINNERS.... SOME LOSERS.... BUT MOSTLY WINNERS AND SOME VERY LARGE ML UNDERDOG WINNERS GOING BACK FOR YEARS....
YOU BASHERS ARE THE ONES WANTING TO MONITOR MY GAMES????
YOU HAVE ALREADY STATED THAT I SUCK.... SO GET OVER IT...
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OH, I GET IT YOU STILL WANT THE GAMES FOR FREE SO MAYBE YOU CAN GET A 2ND HALF WINNER... GOT IT
PICK YOUR OWN GAMES IF YOU ARE BETTER THAN ME... THAT'S COOL OR PAY SOMEONE ELSE... OR JUST LOSE ... OR JUST STOP BETTING..
OR... GET A FUCKING LIFE.............
YOU GUYS ARE UNREAL... ALL THE BASHERS HERE EXCEPT ONE HAS NEVER EVER BEEN A CLIENT OF MINE AND THE ONE THAT WAS... NEVERWIN... STIFFED ME AND DID NOT PAY ME AS HE PROMISED HE WOULD THEN STARTS CALLING ME DRUNK AT 2AM AFTER HIS MOMMY BEAT HIS ASS FOR WETTING THE BED AGAIN..
CHILDREN REALLY...
GET A LIFE
I understand now why you dont respond to many of my messages. Your are uneducated and very ignorant. Its not that you dont try to make valid points. You just cant do it. Your too stupid. You just repeat yourself over and over and have some idiot who writes the same shit in super large bold print over and over to defend you. Anyone who goes to the childish lengths you do to promote themselves has to be very desperate and ignorant. Like pretending you have a phone call when your posting plays,being drunk as hell on your comp line,bragging that you made the Titans mad,saying you and a hired thug will meet someone to beat them up, that the big players in Vegas give you their business cause your so good, etc etc..............................i can go on and on. Your a sad little man trying to scam good people. Youl get yours sooner than later.
BOB... MAYBE I AM MISSING SOMETHING BUT WHY WOULD MY CLIENTS KEEP PAYING MONTH AFTER MONTH FOR MY PLAYS IF THEY ARE NOT WINNING???????????
AND HOW AM I ROBBING THEM?? AND I HAVE A JOB ASSWIPE. OBVIOUSLY YOU AND NEVERWIN DON'T BECAUSE ALL YOU DO IS POST NEGATIVE SHIT ALL DAMN DAY...
GET A LIFE:finger:
AND HOW AM I ROBBING THEM?? AND I HAVE A JOB ASSWIPE. OBVIOUSLY YOU AND NEVERWIN DON'T BECAUSE ALL YOU DO IS POST NEGATIVE SHIT ALL DAMN DAY...
GET A LIFE:finger:
Good now that you responded to me. Answer this. How could you work along side a piece of shit documented lying scammer like Brian for so many years if your a good guy? How can you charge almost 500 bucks for picking plays? Did you promise a refund or not? If you are so good why charge so much for your plays , why not play them yourself? I got more questions but im sure you wont answer any because you would expose yourself. If your not a liar a cheater and a thief why not answer any questions?SmokeyWins said:
And since you have no problem pandering and starting threads to sell your picks to new clients, why not display your wonderful winning records to obtain more clients? Is it because that would be way to honest of a way to get clients? Or because you dont want fresh meat to see your record? Just try and answer at least one question dude. To at least save some face. You cant back shit up and your looking pretty pathetic. As for a couple comp wins. Congrats. You ought to post them every day and show new prospects how awesome you are. Hell you probably play your own plays so you should be a billionare by now. What do you care?
WHAT DOES IT MATTER TO YOU? WHY SHOULD I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ASK? WHAT WOULD THAT HELP?
I WORKED 'WITH' BRIAN LESS THAN 2 YEARS AND LEFT HIS TEAM WHEN I GOT TO REALLY KNOW HIM...
GET ON WITH LIFE...
IF I CHARGE $50 OR $1000 A MONTH WHAT BIZ IS THAT OF YOURS ????
DO YOU HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO??:cryingcry
I WORKED 'WITH' BRIAN LESS THAN 2 YEARS AND LEFT HIS TEAM WHEN I GOT TO REALLY KNOW HIM...
GET ON WITH LIFE...
IF I CHARGE $50 OR $1000 A MONTH WHAT BIZ IS THAT OF YOURS ????
DO YOU HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO??:cryingcry
Every response is who cares or why do you care. I care because after being screwed by your partner I enjoy helping other people to not make the same decisions. Thats why I care. Now your running out of excuses not to answer. You should answer questions because your promoting yourelf here and people should know what they are getting into. You do have an ethical obligation to potential new costumers. Now i gave you a very legit answer. I understand why you dont answer these questions. Because it would hurt your business. But im sorry untill you do I will continue to call you out for other people to see. Ill even converse with you privately if that will make you feel better. Im also curious about alot of aspects of your business myself. If you look at my first 10 or so posts I defended you and I tried to converse with you about your business. But you ignored me. I know im getting to you. Because unlike other childesh remarks by people I am bringing up some great points. You could have avoided my public statements by contacting me. Oh wel.SmokeyWins said:
i Was Never Brian Mac's Partner...
When I Learned What Kind Of Man He Was I Left Him...
You Have Not Been A Client Of Mine.. I Treat My Clients Like I Would Want To Be Treated....
You Don't Know Me...
If I Sound Pissed It's Because I Have Been On This Site Since It Started And Posted Winners Here For Years...
Now All I Get Is This Shit..
Know Me... Then Bash Me If You Want
When I Learned What Kind Of Man He Was I Left Him...
You Have Not Been A Client Of Mine.. I Treat My Clients Like I Would Want To Be Treated....
You Don't Know Me...
If I Sound Pissed It's Because I Have Been On This Site Since It Started And Posted Winners Here For Years...
Now All I Get Is This Shit..
Know Me... Then Bash Me If You Want
I was a former client lest you forget chuck. I experienced your service for about 6 weeks last year, ouch. That said, I haven't bashed you, have only told the truth. You know how I feel about Brian and what he has done to me and countless others and it is hard for me to disassociate you with him. Only he and you really know if you are estranged. Hell he could just reinvent you as someone else. He has robbed people as far as I'm concerned. He is a liar and a thief and belongs in jail with a Big Black Cock as a bed mate. You have had an opportunity since he called you out to respond in kind and help us keep the deserved pressure on him in my thread. You haven't and I can't help but wonder why. You know that everything I have posted in that thread is 100% accurate. I am only sharing the truth with people.
I have always given you credit for accepting responsibility for your horrible season last year. I have also heard from people who have had your service this football and basketball season that you have in fact done very well. I am of the belief that if you want to charge people for your plays then you ought to be willing to show them how you do. I can not see any logical reason why you would be opposed to showing people that you do in fact win if you do in fact win. It is macspeak to hear you tell us you win. Mac tells us he wins all the time. Last week he was telling us he was up 200 units? Was he up 200 units chuck? I have all the plays documented. You know I have been giving out the plays just as he gave them. He is telling everyone he wins and if it were not for my monitoring him you would think he was up huge for the last year if you listened to what HE tells you. If you really want to show people you're legit, let myself or husker or another unbiased person monitor you.
I have always given you credit for accepting responsibility for your horrible season last year. I have also heard from people who have had your service this football and basketball season that you have in fact done very well. I am of the belief that if you want to charge people for your plays then you ought to be willing to show them how you do. I can not see any logical reason why you would be opposed to showing people that you do in fact win if you do in fact win. It is macspeak to hear you tell us you win. Mac tells us he wins all the time. Last week he was telling us he was up 200 units? Was he up 200 units chuck? I have all the plays documented. You know I have been giving out the plays just as he gave them. He is telling everyone he wins and if it were not for my monitoring him you would think he was up huge for the last year if you listened to what HE tells you. If you really want to show people you're legit, let myself or husker or another unbiased person monitor you.
It doesnt look like he will give any kind of legit answer to why he wont let you monitor him. He half answered one question about Mac and ignored the rest like usual becuase he just doesnt want to admit certain things. I guess im gonna lay off him unless he keeps posting self promoting bullshit. He pretty much showed what kind of scamdicapper he is by avoiding all questions.jimmy mac said:
