<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by THE SHRINK:
Vini,
It's the RIGHT thing to do and I will not let this die until these players are paid.
This is just the FIRST step...
THE SHRINK<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
LMAO, did you just find out that your new partner was a dead beat and/or a con artist?
Vini,
It's the RIGHT thing to do and I will not let this die until these players are paid.
This is just the FIRST step...
THE SHRINK<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
LMAO, did you just find out that your new partner was a dead beat and/or a con artist?
Sounds good Shrink.
Would be great if they would actually go over the accounts. The casinomanagement promised they would after 6 months - but now it's been 2 years and 4 months - and noone ever heard from them.
I have no idea how many accounts it could be, a couple of hundreds maybe way more. Marty knows - the balances are still there - transferred from the old software. In fact he could just contact everyone, pay them and apologize for the delay
What happened back then in mid August 2001 was that Main Street casinos and their affiliates pumped out promotional emails with the $100 signup offer (100% match bonus) on their brand new casino Twin Aces. Lots of players took up the offer since Main Street was known to be a first class operation.
After a few days all Danish accounts were locked and after a while players were told they would only receive their deposit back. Obviously Main Street didn't like the outcome of the promotion so they decided to turn back time and pretend it never happened. Kind of like when the poor loser player charge back the money he couldn't afford to lose in a casino. What Main Street did was the casino version of a chargeback.
Main Street never gave a GOOD explanation for their actions. This was what they answered after the first 6 months:
Dear Customer:
We have banned all players from Denmark because we found malicious gaming in most of the accounts. We are on the process to verify the games on each account, the documents as well as many other important factors, such as gaming location, IP's etc. This process is lengthy and is required for us to decide a procedure. As your can read in our previous mail, the winnings will remain on the account for a period no less than 6 months and that is the reason for it. Unfortunately, we have been unable to reach to a conclusion yet. We will notify you of any change or resolution as soon as we do. Thank you for understanding!
David Jones
Customer Service Representative
Twin Aces Casino
I'm sure there were players trying to scam the casino by opening more than one account. I'm sure there were players trying to pull out their money without meeting the wagering requirement - just like there always are when a casino offer an attractive promotion. But that's not a Danish "invention". Denmark is not a less developed country in Africa - we're one of the 10 richest countries in the world. Several of the big books are eager to get into the Danish market. Sportingbet has an office in Denmark. Ladbrokes buys commercials on Danish TV-stations and Stanleybet are ready to file a lawsuit against the Danish government for protecting the statemonopolized "sportsbook".
Bottom line is Main Street never made an effort to go through the accounts. They never requested further ID or documentation or anything, so they don't actually KNOW how many - if any - of the players that were scammers. They just ASSUMED since it would be the cheapest.
Reminds me of the VegasUSA incident (another group) - the manager claimed 200+ Danes were all fraudulent (chargebacks, cc-fraud etc). VegasUSA was sold (they were broke) and the new owner did fraudscreening on the playerbase - including Danish players. Didn't find any bad apples - and eventually a year later everyone got paid their winnings in full by the new owners.
[This message was edited by Jyde on December 08, 2003 at 07:49 AM.]
Would be great if they would actually go over the accounts. The casinomanagement promised they would after 6 months - but now it's been 2 years and 4 months - and noone ever heard from them.
I have no idea how many accounts it could be, a couple of hundreds maybe way more. Marty knows - the balances are still there - transferred from the old software. In fact he could just contact everyone, pay them and apologize for the delay
What happened back then in mid August 2001 was that Main Street casinos and their affiliates pumped out promotional emails with the $100 signup offer (100% match bonus) on their brand new casino Twin Aces. Lots of players took up the offer since Main Street was known to be a first class operation.
After a few days all Danish accounts were locked and after a while players were told they would only receive their deposit back. Obviously Main Street didn't like the outcome of the promotion so they decided to turn back time and pretend it never happened. Kind of like when the poor loser player charge back the money he couldn't afford to lose in a casino. What Main Street did was the casino version of a chargeback.
Main Street never gave a GOOD explanation for their actions. This was what they answered after the first 6 months:
Dear Customer:
We have banned all players from Denmark because we found malicious gaming in most of the accounts. We are on the process to verify the games on each account, the documents as well as many other important factors, such as gaming location, IP's etc. This process is lengthy and is required for us to decide a procedure. As your can read in our previous mail, the winnings will remain on the account for a period no less than 6 months and that is the reason for it. Unfortunately, we have been unable to reach to a conclusion yet. We will notify you of any change or resolution as soon as we do. Thank you for understanding!
David Jones
Customer Service Representative
Twin Aces Casino
I'm sure there were players trying to scam the casino by opening more than one account. I'm sure there were players trying to pull out their money without meeting the wagering requirement - just like there always are when a casino offer an attractive promotion. But that's not a Danish "invention". Denmark is not a less developed country in Africa - we're one of the 10 richest countries in the world. Several of the big books are eager to get into the Danish market. Sportingbet has an office in Denmark. Ladbrokes buys commercials on Danish TV-stations and Stanleybet are ready to file a lawsuit against the Danish government for protecting the statemonopolized "sportsbook".
Bottom line is Main Street never made an effort to go through the accounts. They never requested further ID or documentation or anything, so they don't actually KNOW how many - if any - of the players that were scammers. They just ASSUMED since it would be the cheapest.
Reminds me of the VegasUSA incident (another group) - the manager claimed 200+ Danes were all fraudulent (chargebacks, cc-fraud etc). VegasUSA was sold (they were broke) and the new owner did fraudscreening on the playerbase - including Danish players. Didn't find any bad apples - and eventually a year later everyone got paid their winnings in full by the new owners.
[This message was edited by Jyde on December 08, 2003 at 07:49 AM.]
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hanover00:
Wow, so these casinos lured people in with bogus bonuses and then, once they received deposits, froze the accounts?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
They promised to return deposits to both winners and losers. Of course they didn't refund all....
Wow, so these casinos lured people in with bogus bonuses and then, once they received deposits, froze the accounts?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
They promised to return deposits to both winners and losers. Of course they didn't refund all....
