Capping MLB 2007 #101a Ov/Un plus Las Vegas Q&A

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full, relaxed and ready to go out for a little r&r

the pdws for friday is already uploaded to the ftp, and the master is done less the scores of the final two games

does not get much better than today

the OL and CL lines are coming back together a couple more steps but easy. open will be about as simple as before, close is a little more tricky because of the history hard copy, but that should be solved soon

i'll be here for about 30 more min until my ride arrives. i'll upload the master less the scores of the games that just started so just add them and refresh all

back at you all in the morning
 
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Hey Pops I know you know all of the goings at Vegas sports books and was just wondering if you knew the max bets for MLB parlays at the major casinos as well as others if you know them. Thanks.
 

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i dont know if you have solved the opening and closing lines but covers.com has a line history for each game on their odds page if that helps, it lists pretty close to opening pitch for some games...otherwise if you are looking for consistency scoresandodds always have their opening and closing lines to always look at
 

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Hey Pops I know you know all of the goings at Vegas sports books and was just wondering if you knew the max bets for MLB parlays at the major casinos as well as others if you know them. Thanks.

almost every casino is different just like are all the OS's. is there a specific one your interested in? plus it depends on the sport as well.

the normal bet limits for every sports is on there lines sheets that each of them have.

no if you a regular at the casio you can get times limit increases

eg. if the posted limit is 20k on a ML bet and you have been give 3 times the posted limits, you bet limit would be 60k

ov/un tend to be the lowest of any bet you can make accross all sports, plus most of the casino (other than the coast's) dont even put up ov/un line until the morning of the games, approx 8 am

let me know if you need any additional info

t2b1: dont use anything put out by covers. they put out all the stats that go on the lines sheets that every bettor uses, and i sure dont see many of those people winning any money
 
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almost every casino is different just like are all the OS's. is there a specific one your interested in? plus it depends on the sport as well.

the normal bet limits for every sports is on there lines sheets that each of them have.

no if you a regular at the casio you can get times limit increases

eg. if the posted limit is 20k on a ML bet and you have been give 3 times the posted limits, you bet limit would be 60k

ov/un tend to be the lowest of any bet you can make accross all sports, plus most of the casino (other than the coast's) dont even put up ov/un line until the morning of the games, approx 8 am

let me know if you need any additional info

Well, I was mostly wondering what the limits were for two-team MLB parlays in Vegas, particularly at the Wynn, any of the Stations, maybe Cesars and ESPECIALLY any of the more reputable casinos off of the strip (these and the Stations are what I am really interested in). If you already know or could find out, that would be awesome. Thanks again.
 

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Well, I was mostly wondering what the limits were for two-team MLB parlays in Vegas, particularly at the Wynn, any of the Stations, maybe Cesars and ESPECIALLY any of the more reputable casinos off of the strip (these and the Stations are what I am really interested in). If you already know or could find out, that would be awesome. Thanks again.

stations will be the lowest, parly can be the same as you bet on the lines sheet if it a ML and it 5k, you can bet it as a ML parly for 5k. you might even get away with adding a circled game in with it as well. stations is one of the few casino that will allow you 8 teams off the board.

i just thru the few lines sheets i had for wynn's away a few days ago and cant recall what those limits were but you shouldnt have any prob with a 10k parly at either them or cesars

that's it got to go
 

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Friday August 3rd

let roll. everything was uploaded last night to the ftp, check the final scores for the late games, final in the cells were by best guess b4 i left for some r&r

remember only 1 game with a know ump and that the A's, all the rest are the 1st game of a series

i was going to write up a short procedure for lm and line tracking, but most would not read it anyway, plus it so fucken easy it does not need one

already have my stars and be up working for about an hours, so everything is ready to go

let the OS and casino open so the the betting can began

later

p.s. i already have a pdws and wa nps summary finished and will uploaded it once i do a final check of all the pitchers and OL lines etc. remind me around 9am vt if i forget
 

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i was going to write up a short procedure for lm and line tracking, but most would not read it anyway, plus it so fucken easy it does not need one


Pops, may be good if you did so it will be in the thread highlights that are posted, i personally am printing the highlight page out and this could be a valuable highlight for coming years. Also a couple of days ago you mentioned the cfb info from last year, are you going to post it?
 

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Pops, may be good if you did so it will be in the thread highlights that are posted, i personally am printing the highlight page out and this could be a valuable highlight for coming years. Also a couple of days ago you mentioned the cfb info from last year, are you going to post it?

teaz, it's basically the line diff plus or minus and the LM for your fades. the other key item is only in the master as part of the pivot table, so your shit out of luck there w/o the full master. i've posted it every once in a while, but right now your lookin for minus minus and fade those moves win over 60% of the time

the cfb for the last two year is only in the ftp right now but i'll post that in the pow thread for week #1 which will start about 10 days prior to the 1st cfb game of the season

the big prob i have with that data is how slow and un responsive it is, it's much smaller than my mlb with is almost 20 mb but just so fucken slow when you try to use the filters. i need some time to try and figure out why. that's a good job for ctp

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Could you explain a bit on this new/different opening line and close. I had one play yesterday in the system I spoke about. That was Balti over and wake up this morning and there are 3. I would not be pursueing this if they all lost. I know I had 9 for a close on LOS and it did not appear as a play last night but there it is this morning along with Cleve under. Need to get up to speed costing me. Post it here please or email me at yahoo. I watched the ticker at betcris so that was my close.
 

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Could you explain a bit on this new/different opening line and close. I had one play yesterday in the system I spoke about. That was Balti over and wake up this morning and there are 3. I would not be pursueing this if they all lost. I know I had 9 for a close on LOS and it did not appear as a play last night but there it is this morning along with Cleve under. Need to get up to speed costing me. Post it here please or email me at yahoo. I watched the ticker at betcris so that was my close.

OL is on the pdws in the ftp as well as the summary with wa nps i post here. for those that cant figure it out is in col AE rows 2 thru 17, and is a two diget number e.g 9.0. i know it's hard to find but if everyone looks hard enough they should have figured it out in the past 4 month. and what i put it down as that what the fuck it is period.

item #2 line moves.

for the time being use this link

http://lines.sbrlines.com/odds/baseball/game/total-points.html#

cris is page #2, which is the link above, and it's been responsive for the few days that i've checked it. you will know within 15 min b4 kick off what the number is going to close at. now for those with little experience in betting, when you see eg. a 9 -120 to -130 at cris on either the ov/un there's a strong possibility that the number will move up or down a half point b4 kickoff, so i wait a little longer. another guide is that if you see all the other OS at 9- with them as the only one at 9 -130, strong possibility that it will move as well.

when in doubt punt

i know the above is very difficult, and it much easier to listen to a bunch of talking heads or read a bunch of great threads with cant lose picks, but if everyone studies real hard they should have all of this figured out by october

now d/l the cbb spreadsheet and figure out why it's so slow
 

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Thanks for the kind answer. I found the problem and had nothing to do with the lines.

The month is now August. Doubt it makes any difference.
 

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Thanks for the kind answer. I found the problem and had nothing to do with the lines.

The month is now August. Doubt it makes any difference.

that was not just for you, it was for all the dumb fucks that cant find couldnt find there dick in a dark room
 

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Cant access your cbb stuff get a message about timing out. Then could not get to the directory for pdws. Maybe too many users in there. Will try again later.
 

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OL is on the pdws in the ftp as well as the summary with wa nps i post here. for those that cant figure it out is in col AE rows 2 thru 17, and is a two diget number e.g 9.0. i know it's hard to find but if everyone looks hard enough they should have figured it out in the past 4 month. and what i put it down as that what the fuck it is period.

item #2 line moves.

for the time being use this link

http://lines.sbrlines.com/odds/baseball/game/total-points.html#

cris is page #2, which is the link above, and it's been responsive for the few days that i've checked it. you will know within 15 min b4 kick off what the number is going to close at. now for those with little experience in betting, when you see eg. a 9 -120 to -130 at cris on either the ov/un there's a strong possibility that the number will move up or down a half point b4 kickoff, so i wait a little longer. another guide is that if you see all the other OS at 9- with them as the only one at 9 -130, strong possibility that it will move as well.

when in doubt punt

i know the above is very difficult, and it much easier to listen to a bunch of talking heads or read a bunch of great threads with cant lose picks, but if everyone studies real hard they should have all of this figured out by october

now d/l the cbb spreadsheet and figure out why it's so slow

So this explains why you rarely post your bets...you fade LM at the last minute. Do you ever get a bet down on ov/un at OL? And if so, is that decision based entirely on your spreadsheet or are there other factors? I know your standard response about "fishing", whatever that means. I am trying to learn more about the process, since I usually bet sides and I'm more square than a postage stamp.
 

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today pdws and wa nps below.

let me know of any pitcher changes etc

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So this explains why you rarely post your bets...you fade LM at the last minute. Do you ever get a bet down on ov/un at OL? And if so, is that decision based entirely on your spreadsheet or are there other factors? I know your standard response about "fishing", whatever that means. I am trying to learn more about the process, since I usually bet sides and I'm more square than a postage stamp.

yes i do bet early from time to time, but only because i'm looking for a number to go up and than go the other way when it happens. i do my best to try not to post any of my bets if possible. this is not a good old boy back slapping post your bets and track you units thread that kiss my ass cause it was right or bitch if you lost. there's at least 20 plus people working on collecting data and putting all these spreadsheet together so that they can use the information to make intellegent decisions.

it's only my job to lead people to the water, but not to make the drink it
 

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Below is the link for the meat and potatoes of this thread since it was started by Pops back in April. It contains all relevant posts which explain what everyone is trying to accomplish and what Pops is trying to teach many of us. Consider it the Holy Grail and Teazeman made a very good point today, he is printing it up and saving it. I have it in word perfect and it will always remain their because at some point years from now hopefully we still can be using this information to be making some moola. Enjoy the reading material and hopefully it comes in handy to all.


http://download.yousendit.com/4EA05FC43BA6EA9F
 

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Below is the link for the meat and potatoes of this thread since it was started by Pops back in April. It contains all relevant posts which explain what everyone is trying to accomplish and what Pops is trying to teach many of us. Consider it the Holy Grail and Teazeman made a very good point today, he is printing it up and saving it. I have it in word perfect and it will always remain their because at some point years from now hopefully we still can be using this information to be making some moola. Enjoy the reading material and hopefully it comes in handy to all.


http://download.yousendit.com/4EA05FC43BA6EA9F

good job IL, might be a place for you yet in the pow threads. not sure geppi is going to pull thru. prob is excel and data more important than the actual words that take place in cbb

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