Hey Judge!
Effective border enforcement is a matter of political will, not a law enforcement impossibility. Between a TRIPLE layer fence, a sufficient amount of heavily armed enforcement officers and high tech electronic surveillance, just about all narcotic trafficking (and people smuggling) would stop.
What I would say to you is, vote for those politicians who are serious about protecting our border from peasants, our kids from narcotic piranhas and our citizens from Islamofascist terrorists.
Effective border enforcement is a matter of political will, not a law enforcement impossibility. Between a TRIPLE layer fence, a sufficient amount of heavily armed enforcement officers and high tech electronic surveillance, just about all narcotic trafficking (and people smuggling) would stop.
What I would say to you is, vote for those politicians who are serious about protecting our border from peasants, our kids from narcotic piranhas and our citizens from Islamofascist terrorists.
"The many cops and judges." Show us the impressive list, barman. Oh, that's right...there isn't one.
Pretty obvious you're on the wrong side of the debate when you're forced to incessantly state those who don't support your Soros schemes "support drug dealers."
Carry on. I feel sorry for a sellout who will say or do anything in order to put food on his table.
What do you get $0.10 or $0.50 a post? How do you get into a career as a political Shill?
MARK declares: Between a TRIPLE layer fence, a sufficient amount of heavily armed enforcement officers and high tech electronic surveillance, just about all narcotic trafficking (and people smuggling) would stop.
SH: lol...Except for all the drugs that are smuggled in via the hundreds of thousands of vehicles which cross into the USA every 24 hours.
And not to mention the literal billions of dollars in illicit drugs produced within the USA itself.
Other than those sources....sure.
SH: lol...Except for all the drugs that are smuggled in via the hundreds of thousands of vehicles which cross into the USA every 24 hours.
And not to mention the literal billions of dollars in illicit drugs produced within the USA itself.
Other than those sources....sure.
Joe, have you ever thought that maybe border agents are being bribed to look the other way. If a high enough price is paid, there will always be guards willing to let shipments through?
I am for drugs remaining illegal and increased border security, but to think its going to end trafficking of illegal narcotics is a stretch.
"Build a THREE LAYER fence...yada yada..."
SH: JUDGE shouldn't be making jokes about "force fields" when we could easily just lay mines over about a 300 yard radius of each side of the border while meanwhile stocking the Rio Grande with alligators.
Any Mexican who could successfully navigate the Gauntlet would win free citizenship for life.
FOX could block out an hour in primetime every weeknight for "Best Of Border Crossings" video footage which is rated by a rotating celebrity panel.
The video rights fees would fund the alligator food and the cleanup crews.
We can all toke some good high THC dank grown right here in Ocala FL (or your own neighborhood supplier since all the imported stuff from down South would be "virtually eliminated") and gamble on the nightly outcomes.
Oh, the USBP would of course go out each Sunday morning and shuffle the placement of the buried mines to add that Random Factor we would all demand.
SH: JUDGE shouldn't be making jokes about "force fields" when we could easily just lay mines over about a 300 yard radius of each side of the border while meanwhile stocking the Rio Grande with alligators.
Any Mexican who could successfully navigate the Gauntlet would win free citizenship for life.
FOX could block out an hour in primetime every weeknight for "Best Of Border Crossings" video footage which is rated by a rotating celebrity panel.
The video rights fees would fund the alligator food and the cleanup crews.
We can all toke some good high THC dank grown right here in Ocala FL (or your own neighborhood supplier since all the imported stuff from down South would be "virtually eliminated") and gamble on the nightly outcomes.
Oh, the USBP would of course go out each Sunday morning and shuffle the placement of the buried mines to add that Random Factor we would all demand.
It goes much higher up the ladder than just "border security" getting brided. the majority of the cocaine imported into the united states comes from our very CIA. No this isn't a conspiracy theory, it is an admited fact. John Kerry even had to admit it, even though he whitewashed it big time. a $600 Billion dollar a year industry in heroin and coke alone, and most americans still think abunch of junkies run it. :missingte
Drugs are only illegal at the street level. at the highest level just another big federal business.
PWD aptly notes that Prohibitionists fight for the multi-billion drug market to remain on the streets and in control of gangs, cartels and unregulated financiers.
Reformers call for policies which would motivate dealing off the streets and into a regulated setting which can be monitored.
Our only opposition comes from two groups
1) Those in control of the illegal market
2) Those getting paid to "fight the war" (see the lead post from Mark which notes federal monies of $220million to cops for "illegal marijuana grows")
The feds refuse to pay millions to cops to invade legal drug dealers.
Drug cops are snout deep in the social welfare trough and insult responsible fiscal conservatives by their very existence.
Reformers call for policies which would motivate dealing off the streets and into a regulated setting which can be monitored.
Our only opposition comes from two groups
1) Those in control of the illegal market
2) Those getting paid to "fight the war" (see the lead post from Mark which notes federal monies of $220million to cops for "illegal marijuana grows")
The feds refuse to pay millions to cops to invade legal drug dealers.
Drug cops are snout deep in the social welfare trough and insult responsible fiscal conservatives by their very existence.
Fascist? I guess if my head were stuck in the clouds not knowing were I stood politically, I might think Joe C is a 'fascist'...
The truth is, every policy I've ever written about just so happens to be mandated by the Constitution.
Summing up government's purpose or responsibility in a single sentence risks oversimplification, but if I had to do it I'd settle for this:
Govt exists to protect us from each other.
This recognizes government's responsibility to provide police protection against law breakers; to maintain armed forces to keep our land from being invaded and our liberties lost. It covers govt's involvement in seeing we aren't poisoned, murdered, our food isn't contaminated; dangerous drugs aren't falsely advertised as healthy medicines; child predators are hunted down; rapists are prosecuted as are those who commit fraud.
In other words, govt's function is to protect us from all those harmful things that could be done by someone else.
Preventing terrorism covers this criteria, as does protecting our sovereignty and chasing down illegal trespassers. The free market handles the rest.
Social engineering and entitlements are a completely different categories (Marxism) and were never intended to be government functions. Also govt often overreaches it's intended purpose passing laws trying to keep us from hurting ourselves. Good example would be seat belt laws, helmet laws, gambling laws, possession of narcotics -- pretty much standard libertarian philosophy, X.
Again, as someone who has a very difficult time defining one's political views, other than childish mindsets such as "anti-war" and "anti-state" -- standard libertarian boilerplate -- you shouldn't be casting stones...better to sit back and absorb everything I write.
MARK muses: In other words, govt's function is to protect us from all those harmful things that could be done by someone else.
SH: So why would the US federal government then leave the production and commercial distribution of certain risky drugs in 100% control of unregulated dealers?
Morphine, coedine, oxycodone, liquor, tobacco, insulin, digitalis, phenementine, ibuprofen and literally several thousand other drugs - many potentially lethal and addictive - are deemed worthy of regulation and oversight by local, state and federal monitors.
Change it to marijuana, cocaine, heroin, street amphetamines and psychedelics and the Prohibitionist says, "Let's not regulate these. Let's leave them on the street 100% controlled by gangs, cartels and people who might do us harm."
Curious bunch, these Prohibitionists. They don't actually fit into any one slot of "conservative" or "liberal". Even "fascist" is a bit off. Most forms of fascism would insist at least some level of government having a say in something as prevalent as a multi-billion dollar market, you name the product or service. Prohibitionists surrender 100% of control to the street. Hardly a fascist notion if you ask me.
SH: So why would the US federal government then leave the production and commercial distribution of certain risky drugs in 100% control of unregulated dealers?
Morphine, coedine, oxycodone, liquor, tobacco, insulin, digitalis, phenementine, ibuprofen and literally several thousand other drugs - many potentially lethal and addictive - are deemed worthy of regulation and oversight by local, state and federal monitors.
Change it to marijuana, cocaine, heroin, street amphetamines and psychedelics and the Prohibitionist says, "Let's not regulate these. Let's leave them on the street 100% controlled by gangs, cartels and people who might do us harm."
Curious bunch, these Prohibitionists. They don't actually fit into any one slot of "conservative" or "liberal". Even "fascist" is a bit off. Most forms of fascism would insist at least some level of government having a say in something as prevalent as a multi-billion dollar market, you name the product or service. Prohibitionists surrender 100% of control to the street. Hardly a fascist notion if you ask me.
So what are you saying, barman? Under your defeatist criterion, because we have thousands of murders and rapes a year, they shouldn't be 'banned' either. We should just accept the fact people are going to murder and rape from time to time and....oh well... :aktion033
As I stated previously, the basic response for liberals to any challenge or difficulty is to just throw away every shred of decency, honor, hard work, courage, righteousness -- and surrender. That's the liberal solution to EVERYTHING! Welfare, teen pregnancy, abortion, War On Terror, illegal immigration...EVERYTHING!
This is why I'm a proud conservative. "And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil."
Nothing is 100%, Woof.
What I'm saying is if the country is being invaded by illegals and narcotics tearing down society, the government has a constitutional obligation to do something about it. The lame excuses and defensive responses we are hearing inside the beltway are NOT ACCEPTABLE because there are very practical ways we can eliminate the bulk of this problem. God forbid there's another 9/11 and we later discover the terrorists came through the unguarded back door....
If any individual can enter the country at any point at any time and the government is obliged to feed and house them, then we might as well accept the fact the United States is no longer is a sovereign nation -- which just so happens to be the UN's position on this issue. The UN thinks a border fence is "a violation of human rights." :nopityA:
Mark, there's no ban on murder or rape in the USA or anywhere else I know.
There are criminal sanctions levied against those caught and proven quilty and these sanctions seem to be sufficiently severe that in the USA less than 20,000 homicides annually. Each year, 299,980,000 elect to not commit homicide.
To use dollar comparisons, it's likely not even a few million dollars per year business since most homicides cost just a few bucks.
But no ban exists because it's impossible to "ban" homicide.
Our current system successfully reduces the number of homicides (and rapes and most other violent crime) so it's a worthy policy.
I'm very supportive of our criminal justice system's responses to homicide and rape. They make the community safer.
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Meanwhile, back to Topic of Prohibition vs Regulation
Prohibition increases death, disease, violent crime and ancillary property crime while doing little or nothing to stem the use of the cited drugs by at least 40 million North Americans.
It is therefore a foolish and destructive policy.
My business is educating on preferred systems for drug production and distribution.
Others more qualified can comment as to how effective our current system is for dealing with murderers and rapists. Seems fairly okey-dokey to me so I don't work much in that area.
Our current system of Prohibition succeeds in leaving 100% control of a multi-billion dollar market
There are criminal sanctions levied against those caught and proven quilty and these sanctions seem to be sufficiently severe that in the USA less than 20,000 homicides annually. Each year, 299,980,000 elect to not commit homicide.
To use dollar comparisons, it's likely not even a few million dollars per year business since most homicides cost just a few bucks.
But no ban exists because it's impossible to "ban" homicide.
Our current system successfully reduces the number of homicides (and rapes and most other violent crime) so it's a worthy policy.
I'm very supportive of our criminal justice system's responses to homicide and rape. They make the community safer.
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Meanwhile, back to Topic of Prohibition vs Regulation
Prohibition increases death, disease, violent crime and ancillary property crime while doing little or nothing to stem the use of the cited drugs by at least 40 million North Americans.
It is therefore a foolish and destructive policy.
My business is educating on preferred systems for drug production and distribution.
Others more qualified can comment as to how effective our current system is for dealing with murderers and rapists. Seems fairly okey-dokey to me so I don't work much in that area.
Our current system of Prohibition succeeds in leaving 100% control of a multi-billion dollar market
