going back and forth with vettard is a waste of time, I'll just close this matter like this
people from both sides of the fence have observed the arguments, and there is one person here that actually sides with the libtarded losers on this stuff, that being the guesser. I don't think dafinch has backed them up on the wager issues, while a couple of others started in their corners but bailed
the facts speak for themselves, the fat lady has stopped singing and left the building, willie99 went yard in both cases and that's that