can you retire from wealth you accumulated playing on-line poker?

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can you retire from wealth won playing poker on line?

  • of course, it's easy

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • LMFAO, are you kidding?

    Votes: 11 47.8%
  • it happens all the time

    Votes: 5 21.7%
  • whoever makes that claim is a liar

    Votes: 6 26.1%

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Vit is a one man clown show now that AK is around - everything he says is a joke - retired at 30 on a million - good luck if you think a million is enough for a 30 year old to retire and not work - and we all know you don't have a bank account or brokerage account with a million in it - how much much you want to bet? 100 gazillion u clown

The idea that he won a bunch of money playing poker and no longer has to work is so utterly preposterous, only someone as dumb as him would say this.

Of course his claim is a lie as demonstrated below.

There are two components to showing that his claim of winning “more than a million” in poker and never having to work again are false.

Component #1: Wisdom & Experience

Component #1, Fact 1: He is clearly an idiot. With the bad grammar, the idiotic and easily debunked lies, falling for satire, the inability to do basic math and the comically bad sports and political predictions, it is clear he has a mediocre IQ.

Component #1, Fact 2: He has no experience in high finance. If you go from living paycheck to paycheck, does it sound right that you will know the best things to invest in and the best tax and asset protection strategies along with figuring out an income stream from your investments? He has said he had large student loans and was angry about it and he also said he went to a financial advisor but did not listen to what was said. Think about this, about 70% of lottery winners (with much, much more than he claims to have won) end up broke and 80% of NBA players (with much, much more than he claims to have won) end up bankrupt. Yet a guy with a low IQ and no experience somehow figured out how to manage wealth in a very short period of time. Laughable.

Component #2 Math. Breaking down his claims in specific detail, the math simply doesn’t hold up. Using very conservative figures in his favor demonstrate this.

Component #2, Fact 1: Taxes. He has said he has “casino paperwork” on these winnings. So he had to have paid taxes. Let us use numbers favorable to his position to show how much he paid.
Total Winnings Assumption: $1,200,000. Tax rate: 28% (this is very fair, the actual rate is over 35% when you combine fed & state).
Taxes paid: $336,000. Leftover amount: $864,000

Component #2, Fact 2: Paying off Debts
Again, using his words. He said he paid off home, cars and paid off student loans. Using very conservative estimates:
Home: Assume he paid off $200,000 in outstanding mortgage, kept home and lives there.
Student loan debt for him + wife = $50,000
Two new cars = $70,000
Leftover total: $544,000

Component #2, Fact 3: Income stream(s) He could have bought another house and rented out the old one but that then takes you to at least below $400,000 net cash. Further, even if he did not, see component #1, Fact 2 for reference in him figuring out the stock market or other ways to manage a big sum of money. Finally, he has said on multiple occasions “every penny” of his wife’s paycheck goes “into the bank.” So assume he took a gamble and invested $200,000 of the leftover amount. That isn't enough to generate enough income for 2 people to live off in perpetuity. It isn't enough to generate six month's worth of living expenses.

So a guy in his late 30’s with no experience in finance is putting every penny of his wife’s paycheck in the bank (a completely idiotic thing to do, BTW) and they are living off of $544,000 (he has lost more than $50,000 gambling in the last 3 years) and he has to never work again.

Totally laughable.
 

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Acebb wakes up at 7:45.....takes his old man meds....and immediately jumps on RX to talk about me. Bwaaaaaaahhhh
 

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The idea that he won a bunch of money playing poker and no longer has to work is so utterly preposterous, only someone as dumb as him would say this.

Of course his claim is a lie as demonstrated below.

There are two components to showing that his claim of winning “more than a million” in poker and never having to work again are false.

Component #1: Wisdom & Experience

Component #1, Fact 1: He is clearly an idiot. With the bad grammar, the idiotic and easily debunked lies, falling for satire, the inability to do basic math and the comically bad sports and political predictions, it is clear he has a mediocre IQ.

Component #1, Fact 2: He has no experience in high finance. If you go from living paycheck to paycheck, does it sound right that you will know the best things to invest in and the best tax and asset protection strategies along with figuring out an income stream from your investments? He has said he had large student loans and was angry about it and he also said he went to a financial advisor but did not listen to what was said. Think about this, about 70% of lottery winners (with much, much more than he claims to have won) end up broke and 80% of NBA players (with much, much more than he claims to have won) end up bankrupt. Yet a guy with a low IQ and no experience somehow figured out how to manage wealth in a very short period of time. Laughable.

Component #2 Math. Breaking down his claims in specific detail, the math simply doesn’t hold up. Using very conservative figures in his favor demonstrate this.

Component #2, Fact 1: Taxes. He has said he has “casino paperwork” on these winnings. So he had to have paid taxes. Let us use numbers favorable to his position to show how much he paid.
Total Winnings Assumption: $1,200,000. Tax rate: 28% (this is very fair, the actual rate is over 35% when you combine fed & state).
Taxes paid: $336,000. Leftover amount: $864,000

Component #2, Fact 2: Paying off Debts
Again, using his words. He said he paid off home, cars and paid off student loans. Using very conservative estimates:
Home: Assume he paid off $200,000 in outstanding mortgage, kept home and lives there.
Student loan debt for him + wife = $50,000
Two new cars = $70,000
Leftover total: $544,000

Component #2, Fact 3: Income stream(s) He could have bought another house and rented out the old one but that then takes you to at least below $400,000 net cash. Further, even if he did not, see component #1, Fact 2 for reference in him figuring out the stock market or other ways to manage a big sum of money. Finally, he has said on multiple occasions “every penny” of his wife’s paycheck goes “into the bank.” So assume he took a gamble and invested $200,000 of the leftover amount. That isn't enough to generate enough income for 2 people to live off in perpetuity. It isn't enough to generate six month's worth of living expenses.

So a guy in his late 30’s with no experience in finance is putting every penny of his wife’s paycheck in the bank (a completely idiotic thing to do, BTW) and they are living off of $544,000 (he has lost more than $50,000 gambling in the last 3 years) and he has to never work again.

Totally laughable.

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Of course the lying troll doesn't have a response except more trolling.

Will we ever get some concrete answers?

Of course not.

"I don't have kids"

"The kids love the long drives"

vtard = total fraud
 

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Joe wakes up.....takes his old man meds.....checks his empty dating profile inbox....starts his con man routine.....then talks about me. This is every day.

Most know why I have kids now as it was discussed in another thead. You and lying Acebb are alone because your broke and spend days conning people.
 
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If you think I've talked about every cent I've earned at this site......you're out of your mind.

A simple no would have sufficed.

In today's world, it would be very difficult to retire off of $1.2 in your 30s. It's not easy to find quality investments with decent yields. A savings account pays you next to nothing, cap rates in real estate are historically low, and my guess is you aren't outperforming the stock market. Your outlay for season tickets, vacations and gambling would sink you. I'm not saying your story isn't true, I'm just saying it wouldn't be easy. Maybe your nut was greater than $1.2. Maybe you are a master investor.
 

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A simple no would have sufficed.

In today's world, it would be very difficult to retire off of $1.2 in your 30s. It's not easy to find quality investments with decent yields. A savings account pays you next to nothing, cap rates in real estate are historically low, and my guess is you aren't outperforming the stock market. Your outlay for season tickets, vacations and gambling would sink you. I'm not saying your story isn't true, I'm just saying it wouldn't be easy. Maybe your nut was greater than $1.2. Maybe you are a master investor.

I will be fine. Other than my tickets.....modest stuff for me. Had little for long time......expensive cars and clothing, jewelry and such.....not a high priority here
 

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If you think I've talked about every cent I've earned at this site......you're out of your mind.

Nice idiotic response. Nobody said you did, dumb fuck.

The assumption is a fair one and based off your own words:

I prove my assets are 2 mill and the majority of it is from tournament poker? How much?

See how that works, idiot?

Remember, the guy who can't do basic math, needs every bit of logic & fact explained to him because he constantly responds to strawmen, made a whole bunch of money in "other ventures"!
:):):):):):):):):):)
 

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A simple no would have sufficed.

In today's world, it would be very difficult to retire off of $1.2 in your 30s. It's not easy to find quality investments with decent yields. A savings account pays you next to nothing, cap rates in real estate are historically low, and my guess is you aren't outperforming the stock market. Your outlay for season tickets, vacations and gambling would sink you. I'm not saying your story isn't true, I'm just saying it wouldn't be easy. Maybe your nut was greater than $1.2. Maybe you are a master investor.

Of course, but as the example shows, he had nowhere near $1,200,000.

There is no math or logic that allows him to "retire" from these winnings.

The idea that someone with his IQ and who has no relevant (business) education or experience (he never worked in the private sector) made a few hundred thousand with "other ventures" is utterly ridiculous.

It is a lie. All of it.
 
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A simple no would have sufficed.

In today's world, it would be very difficult to retire off of $1.2 in your 30s. It's not easy to find quality investments with decent yields. A savings account pays you next to nothing, cap rates in real estate are historically low, and my guess is you aren't outperforming the stock market. Your outlay for season tickets, vacations and gambling would sink you. I'm not saying your story isn't true, I'm just saying it wouldn't be easy. Maybe your nut was greater than $1.2. Maybe you are a master investor.

Or, he's a pathological liar. Astute readers know the truth.
 

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Of course the lying troll doesn't have a response except more trolling.

Will we ever get some concrete answers?

Of course not.

"I don't have kids"

"The kids love the long drives"

vtard = total fraud

He can't respond with actual examples because there are none. He's scared to make up examples because he knows it is beyond his understanding and I will be able to shred anything he says in 20 seconds.

He will continue with this dipshit "other ventures" and "I'll be fine" nonsense.

He's a total & complete liar.
 

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Most know why I have kids now as it was discussed in another thead.

You don't have any children.

This is another lie you made up.

Just like "last year +$15,000 NFL regular season" was a lie.

Just like I am snoop was a lie.

Just like I am t-hawk was a lie

Just like "I wasn't at this site over the weekend" was a lie.

And so on and so forth.

It is beyond comical that you cite your own words as fact on something. Total parody.
 

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You don't have any children.

This is another lie you made up.

Just like "last year +$15,000 NFL regular season" was a lie.

Just like I am snoop was a lie.

Just like I am t-hawk was a lie

Just like "I wasn't at this site over the weekend" was a lie.

And so on and so forth.

It is beyond comical that you cite your own words as fact on something. Total parody.

Did you accept my bet? A trusted mod for proof I have kids. This is the 7 th time ive asked.
 

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He can't respond with actual examples because there are none. He's scared to make up examples because he knows it is beyond his understanding and I will be able to shred anything he says in 20 seconds.

He will continue with this dipshit "other ventures" and "I'll be fine" nonsense.

He's a total & complete liar.

Your name is lying Acebb and you stalk me all day. " make up examples". Lmao. You are too stupid for words
 

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A simple no would have sufficed.

In today's world, it would be very difficult to retire off of $1.2 in your 30s. It's not easy to find quality investments with decent yields. A savings account pays you next to nothing, cap rates in real estate are historically low, and my guess is you aren't outperforming the stock market. Your outlay for season tickets, vacations and gambling would sink you. I'm not saying your story isn't true, I'm just saying it wouldn't be easy. Maybe your nut was greater than $1.2. Maybe you are a master investor.

Doesn't this convince you?

I made over 1 million from poker....and made money from other ventures. I think you understand that I wouldn't want to divulge every financial move I've made....

:):)

This genius is just so lucky! Not only did he have an improbable poker run, he is part of the 0.0025% of American's who can suddenly come into a large sum of cash, ignore professional financial advice, and make a bunch of money.

What a story!

They should make a movie about it!
 

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Your name is lying Acebb and you stalk me all day. " make up examples". Lmao. You are too stupid for words

I've provided specific examples and details of how you are lying.

Of course you will make up examples, it is all you can do. Look at how fucking idiotic your replies are. Instead of using actual examples (you can't because there are none) you go with "too stupid for words!!"

And you actually think this is some sort of response.

"Other ventures"

:):):):):):):):):):):):)
 

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I've provided specific examples and details of how you are lying.

Of course you will make up examples, it is all you can do. Look at how fucking idiotic your replies are. Instead of using actual examples (you can't because there are none) you go with "too stupid for words!!"

And you actually think this is some sort of response.

"Other ventures"

:):):):):):):):):):):):)

Youve provided your own examples on about a third of the information. But keep convincing yourself you're making a point. The dipshit trolls will buy all your bullshit. Just like your 8am steam plays!!!! :):)
 

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