Can you make a living betting on sports?

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Yes, you can make a living betting sports. I have multiple systems...yes, I said SYSTEMS...that work over the long haul in college football. These systems are back tested. Some sample sizes are larger than others. My most lucrative SYSTEM is back tested to 1987, produces around 15 plays every week during the college football season and has a total sample size of just under 4,000 events.

The problems with making a living at gambling are many:

1.) Bankroll: If you're gonna make a living at this, you have to win a lot of money. In order to win a lot of money, you have to bet large amounts of money on individual events. In order for me to eek out an average of $35,000 per year in college football, I need to risk $2,000 per event. Believe me when I tell you, risking 4% of bankroll on a single event is a recipe for disaster...at $2K per event, that requires a BR of $50,000. It was great for me when I was winning, but with any SYSTEM you are bound to have losing seasons. 1% of BR is what I would recommend and that means tying up $200,000 of cash in order to make $35K per year with sportsbooks that are constantly going under. When you hit that losing streak, where you only win 2 of the last 20 bets, and that WILL happen eventually, you don't want to be sitting there with a BR that is down 72%...it will cause you to make decisions that you shouldn't...you'll probably be downsizing your unit just when the losing streak ends.

2.) EMOTION: I find it completely impossible to follow my systems 100% at all times. If there is a good college football game on ESPN on Thursday night, I want to have action on it. When your standard unit is $2K, betting $200 on a game just doesn't get it done. You have to risk an entire unit on a recreational wager in order to get the "thrill" of a bet. This leads to disaster. If you enjoy gambling on sports, this can kill you.

As for me, I am pretty much done with all my systems. Typically, on a normal Saturday, I'll have 25 games I'm betting on. It isn't nearly as much fun as just plunking 2 or 3 thousand down on the featured ABC game right before kick off and enjoying a good game. That is my new MO now...I just bet for fun. If a good game happens to be a system play for me, sure, I'll take it. But as for trying to watch Army vs Tulane on channel 778 AND Cincinnati vs Rutgers on channel 206 AND Baylor vs Texas on channel 243 all at the same time...I am done with that...I'll just watch the good game on ABC or CBS or ESPN. No more of this 6 bets going on at once for me. I am in it for the entertainment.

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Sure Can. As someone stated earlier, you need a huge bankroll to even consider it though. I'd say around 100k, possibly more. Plus, if you want to make a "living" from betting i'd assume that means AT LEAST 30K profit a year. Tough to do, but doable. Too bad the majority of us live in the United Police State and can't use pinny,net teller etc.....Definitley hinders us gamblers.
 

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for me (once again) and what im working toward is a 50k bankroll,,,,,, getting down 1k (2%) per game....... i have locals and play at betjam offshore and Oly as well...... it borders on me staying (focused, disciplined and selective)...... i want between 60-90 plays per month (around 75)...

I draw a huge chart and number it...... then i merely start to fill in the plays.......

so much of this is mental,,,, you cant let the losing get you off your game (on tilt).......

I find that i do my best, when i put my work in....... turn my plays in and then forget it........
 

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Bottom line, can you make a living betting on sports. I wanna sit home in my PJ's and watch games all day and make bets. Can it be done.

How much has anyone made in one year or sustained year over year income.

Id guess 40% or more of the guys posting here are making their living via betting sports.

Unfortunately, Im not among this group.

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pwn - pinny/neteller is a setback, but there is Matchbook which helps and if you really wanted to, you could setup a bank account in Antigua and use it as your own personal Neteller.

Where there's a will there's a way
 

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thought this was a great thread, and especially in the newbie room.

Answer may differ for all who get involved for this thread as many people try but aren't successful. But from my experience and the persons I know I have to say yes with proof, I have a friend who is a full time gambler-all seasons and this is his only job and has been for some 7 years, oh did I mention he is only 24 yrs old and has never worked since graduating.............highschool that is. Some may make fun but this is true and it just goes to show you can make it in anything if you dedicate yourself to it and have knowledge of what you are investing OR interested in, and I always say your bankroll depends on your location, I am quite sure a bankroll of 10,000 could get you to SURVIVE and LIVE in lets say.....Kentucky or Alabama where 400-500 PROFIT per week or 1500-2000 a month will probably be comfortable(I live in JERSEY so I am only guestimating and not downplaying anyones living styles, but from the prices of land and houses it seems alot more affordable) but to play and live in the inner cities of AMERICA you must produce way more funds to cover the expenses and cost of living. BOL and hopefully you'll accomplish this 1 way or another.

PS- my friend uses a simplistic system of betting dogs and ANY SEASON, he wont go crazy but if you find a GOOD or GREAT DOG he gets it good and when it hits it increases the bank nicely and the losses cost you minimun with no juice to pay, keep in mind he has a tremendous knowledge of ALL sports with facts leftover to boot.
 

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In theory.... yes.

In practice, no.

When pinny and the -105 lines disappeared it got tougher. Your congress at work, doing the bidding of the moral majority.

Have some fun.......make and lose some money....... enjoy the company.
 

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Yes, if you have friends like Tim Donaghy.
 

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In theory.... yes.

In practice, no.

When pinny and the -105 lines disappeared it got tougher. Your congress at work, doing the bidding of the moral majority.

Have some fun.......make and lose some money....... enjoy the company.

I have made consistent (but not big) money over the years wagering on various things.
However, this does not come with a 401K plan, or health insurance, so I do this for fun, pick up a few extra dollars, and work my 5 days a week at my real job.
 

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i think that if you get enough credit from enough outs and you don't have to post up your own jingle betting 1k a pop you can make a good profit at the end of the year scalping and playing middles.... getting a good deal on juice for being a customer with alot of volume won't hurt either, say -105 or 5 cents your way on anything.
 

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am quite sure a bankroll of 10,000 could get you to SURVIVE and LIVE

Nowhere near enough. Your bankroll needs to be able to cope with significant losing periods for you to be able to make a living.

it just goes to show you can make it in anything if you dedicate yourself to it and have knowledge of what you are investing OR interested in

A lot of dedicated and knowledgeable people have failed in life. Very few can make it betting, and it's not necessarily because of lack of knowledge.

when it hits it increases the bank nicely and the losses cost you minimun with no juice to pay

You still pay juice, and it won't increase the bank "nicely" if you are practicing sensible bankroll management. The outcome of a single bet should be insignificant financially and emotionally to anyone who is betting for a living. Losses don't cost you a minimum, they're just distributed so that losses are more frequent with the wins being worth slightly more.

but most fail to realize that 54-55%

Most fail to realise 51%. Also, a high percentage means you're missing out on opportunities ;)

and that means tying up $200,000 of cash in order to make $35K per year

Not to mention that is only 17.5 units, so yearly results will be quite volatile, so you'd really want more than 200k if you planned on using 2k units.

EMOTION

Very important for discipline and for preventing burnout.

I'd say around 100k, possibly more

How much you would require is like asking "how long is a piece of string". There isn't any one answer because everyone will approach it differently and be in different personal situations (eg single/married/young/mortgage). Some will make as much off of 50k as others would off of 150k.
 

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I heard Lem Banker say on a radio show once that in order to make a living betting sports you have to bet a minimum of $1000 a game.
 

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i hope you are joking b/c if you really think 40% of the posters here are making their living by betting on ball games,then you are completely deluded.i bet the number is less than 4%.
 

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I watched a Real Sports and this guy made well over 100k a year betting only on college basketball.
 

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yes it is possible,,, you gotta follow a few guidelines,,, get the best line. Follow strict Money management. USE all friends for nside information.

And just a side note, If I can suggest 2 small things, Bet AS FEW GAMES AS POSSIBLE,,, 1 game a night,,, or LESS!!!

and if you plan on makeing a liveing you DO NEED a BR of 200G ++

this is an incredible hobby,,,, filled with UPS and DOWNS,,, I learn EVERY DAMM DAY,,,,, and when I think Ive learned, I always find that I need to learn more,,, I think thats where people fail,,,,, they stop learning,,,

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Too many ups and downs for me so I stick with my job till I get better at this. Besides, my current job pays much better, and like billhill said, benefits are nice.

I think you would need to be betting more than 1K a game. What's a normal salary? 50K-100K. You'd have to be +50-100units.
 

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I have seen one of the biggest syndacates in Vegas take a month off
because of bad losing streaks and possibly the best poker player of all
time say he was sure happy he could win at poker to cover his sports
losses. It's tough, takes alot of money management which 99.9% of us
don't have...
P.S. a big bankroll doesn'y hurt.....
 

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