out, why do you say Clark is far left wing? Other than as a military analyst on CNN only time I heard him speak was last weekend on the Meet the Press. They discussed many issues and while he certainly sounded Democratic-leaning he didn't sound slike a liberal. I think the Republicans will have a tough time painting him that way. What does he have in his historty/platform/what he's said that makes you say that? He described himself as a centrist and actually wouldn't commit to running as a Democrat but said he would not run as a 3rd party. Is he liberal simply because he disagreed with the tax cuts on principle? I'd say that opinion is in line with the majority of Americans. I really think if he played his cards right and got a strong grass-roots going, Clark could become a formidable candidate. He is an extremely bright guy, that is obvious, and he comes across as much more genuine and less smug than someone like Al Gore did.
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Can anybody tell me why the following candidates are running??
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Clark is running for Vice President. He has a ton of baggage though; many leftists are calling him a war criminal for bombing civilian targets in the Balkans. He made a lot of enemies in the Pentegon while a general, and his harsh critism of the war plan while a CNN analyst looks absurd after the relatively easy victory.
If he runs, he'll split the moderate vote among Dems and give Dean a clearer shot. The Democrats certainly don't need that if they expect to expand their party and recapture the Congress.
If he runs, he'll split the moderate vote among Dems and give Dean a clearer shot. The Democrats certainly don't need that if they expect to expand their party and recapture the Congress.
I don't think it much matters what Pentagon staffers might think of him. I watched him quite a bit on CNN and I didn't see his commentary as harsh in terms of the battlefield war plan. He clearly predicted the US' success on the battlefield. He has criticized the Admin quite a bit though on not doing enough post-battle planning (I guess wehat some call nation-building) in terms of making sure the country goes in the right direction. I think most people feel that the true outcome of the war is yet to be determined. If Iraq becomes a breeding ground for terrorists or if we never manage to get out of there then the war was a failure.
As far as bombing in the Balkans, I frankly don't know that much about it but if it's just leftists that say this then I'm not too concerned.
On Meet the Press on Sunday he said he is going to consider running and was amaed by the grass roots campaign by www.draftwesleyclark.com
Clark served 34 years in the Army, was a 4-star general and NATO Supreme Allied Commander. He graduated first in his class from West Point, was a rhodes scholar and mastered in philosophy, politics and economics. He's also an investment banker and owns his own consulting firm.
I don't think a candidate could possibly have a more distinguished background than this man. And when he speaks he comes across as very genuine, thoughful, moderate and intelligent. And I knew basically nothing about him when I heard him talk. I think he could win over a lot of moderates, get some Reagan Democrats and in a matchup vs. Bush even a "leftist" woulf surely vote for him. He would make a formidable candidate and he is the guy Bush's handlers fear most among the Democratic undecideds. He might not be able to win the Dem primary...it would take a lot of momentum and exposure, BUT if somehow he could do that he would present a unique challenge to. Just my opinion.
As far as bombing in the Balkans, I frankly don't know that much about it but if it's just leftists that say this then I'm not too concerned.
On Meet the Press on Sunday he said he is going to consider running and was amaed by the grass roots campaign by www.draftwesleyclark.com
Clark served 34 years in the Army, was a 4-star general and NATO Supreme Allied Commander. He graduated first in his class from West Point, was a rhodes scholar and mastered in philosophy, politics and economics. He's also an investment banker and owns his own consulting firm.
I don't think a candidate could possibly have a more distinguished background than this man. And when he speaks he comes across as very genuine, thoughful, moderate and intelligent. And I knew basically nothing about him when I heard him talk. I think he could win over a lot of moderates, get some Reagan Democrats and in a matchup vs. Bush even a "leftist" woulf surely vote for him. He would make a formidable candidate and he is the guy Bush's handlers fear most among the Democratic undecideds. He might not be able to win the Dem primary...it would take a lot of momentum and exposure, BUT if somehow he could do that he would present a unique challenge to. Just my opinion.
D2,
First off Clark called the Iraq war, like elective surgery and was all for bombing the Serbs. Seems a bit hypocritical. Clark also made an azz of himself on CNN and claimed the US would lose 3000+ soldiers taking Baghdad, one day before we moved in. Any politician against tax cuts is left wing. No one in their right mind would say Americans aren't over taxed. The problem is the government spends to much.
"Walter Williams is my hero" outandup 2002
First off Clark called the Iraq war, like elective surgery and was all for bombing the Serbs. Seems a bit hypocritical. Clark also made an azz of himself on CNN and claimed the US would lose 3000+ soldiers taking Baghdad, one day before we moved in. Any politician against tax cuts is left wing. No one in their right mind would say Americans aren't over taxed. The problem is the government spends to much.
"Walter Williams is my hero" outandup 2002
Any politicians against tax cuts is left wing????? I'd say any politician for tax cuts in the face of exponentially growng deficits is by all means NOT conservative. There are plenty of Republicans and conservatives who were not happy with the tax cuts -- they are leftists? If we can get the deficit under control by just reducing spending, fine, then do it. But if not, then passing tax cuts at a time of rising spending and deficits is just plain stupid. When you spend a lot more than you take in, then it's hard to argue that you are taking in too much. But that's what you're saying. You're saying the govt takes in too much in taxes. If you and your family made $100,000 and spent $150,000 would you say you were making too much money? That would be ludicrous!
D2,
There are alot of RINOs out there. The US government takes in plenty of tax money. The problem is run away spending. A person could make $150,000 a year and spend most of it on dope, women and gambling. That same person may get his home foreclosed on and his vehicle repoed. He took in plenty of money he just didn't spend it wisely. Get the point.
"Walter Williams is my hero" outandup 2002
There are alot of RINOs out there. The US government takes in plenty of tax money. The problem is run away spending. A person could make $150,000 a year and spend most of it on dope, women and gambling. That same person may get his home foreclosed on and his vehicle repoed. He took in plenty of money he just didn't spend it wisely. Get the point.
"Walter Williams is my hero" outandup 2002
That's fine to say that about spending, but in the meantime both parties are increasing total spending and you know as well as I that it isn't going to change any time soon. 9/11 and the war have of course added to this. Knowing that spending is increasing and that we already have a huge deficit how can you possibly support taking in less money? I just don't understand it. If trying to reduce the deficit and heaven forbid balance the budget is 'left wing' then I guess the left wing has become the fiscally conservative side of the aisle.
I don't believe the ONLY go to the rich, but the portion that does is too migh. More importantly though, it is inefficient in terms of any real stimulus, it is unfair in terms of who gets what benefits and as I said it is irresponsible in the face of sprialing deficits. Bush got a huge tax cut 2 years ago. Are we supposed to cut taxes every year until the deficit is 1 trillion? I don't like taxes any more than the next guy, but I can also understand the big picture and that big pitcure is getting uglier and uglier the longer we ignore the accounting scandal that is the Federal Government.
