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Originally Posted by Woody0
I'm thinking of buying the oil bear ETF.



Over 18% ROI since Monday. Not bad for two days. This is a trading position and not meant as a long term investment.


You are absolutly correct. If you bought it when you posted, you would have a nice return. My argument was at around the $38 level, there's a lot more upside than downside. I've been doing fairly well with what little cash I have available trading in and out of oil ETNs. With this 18% booked, I'd sell it off and buy UCO. But that's just me.

Well done.
 

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With so much money supposedly going back to infastructure, are there any companies that will benefit from this and worth investing in?

Any thoughts or suggestions?
 

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I would not recommend buying a stock based on a perceived bounce from the stimulus package.
 

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With so much money supposedly going back to infastructure, are there any companies that will benefit from this and worth investing in?

Any thoughts or suggestions?

KBR might be worth a punt at these levels

spinoff of haliburton

@)
 

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shocking troops is generally bad for business....although the stock has held up decent over the past few months
 

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i started buying oil stocks in mid december.....ive gotten a haircut but im okay with my average price on some of the positions. i have some more cash on the side if we continue downward ill reload again. btw i dont expect this to turn around in the near term.
 

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You are absolutly correct. If you bought it when you posted, you would have a nice return. My argument was at around the $38 level, there's a lot more upside than downside. I've been doing fairly well with what little cash I have available trading in and out of oil ETNs. With this 18% booked, I'd sell it off and buy UCO. But that's just me.

Well done.

I sold today for 23% gain. I could have done better but high balled my overnight sell by 30 cents. When I got up at 7:30 am Pacific time the market had bottomed and was rising again so I thought it prudent to get out at market price.

I buy on the Toronto exchange (HOD/HOU) since the contracts also include $ hedging. They are based on the near month NYMEX moving forward, daily rebalanced. I guess UCO is similar but based on a slightly different underlying index.
 

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its common practice to buy strong well run companies in times of uncertainty such as GE

as for short on Oil, why Woody?

even if contrived id assume with all the tax credits to stimulate green energy initiatives that otherwise natural market forces couldn't sustain....

it will cause oil to rise heavy by summer
 

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UCO is on the verge of closing at it's 52 week low.

I bought the oil bull today. I could have waited to sell the bear until today, since the ETF has been based on the April contract since yesterday's trading.

Romanowski, my oil ETF trades, based on the NYMEX price for oil, represents my gambling money, in accord with the nature of this board. I've been watching oil for some months and feel that profits can be made from short term trades using the 2X derivatives as the market swings within a fixed range (basically $35-$47 more or less). I hope to make 10% return on the bull over a couple of weeks and then buy the bear again. If you watch the US oil storage stats they've been increasing for months and the storage at Cushing, OK is near capacity. Declining storage will indicate that oil has the potential to break out and if/when the economy improves it will likely move up to the $70/80 range.

I agree with buying strong well run companies. I'm retired (65) and in my pension portfolio I've moved from 50:50 equities:fixed income to 65:35. It's quite aggressive but so long as I can fund 5-6 years without having to sell equities I think I can ride this out, unless it becomes a severe depression when all bets are off. So far as oil goes I hold both an integrated oil and holdings in the tar sands where the cost of production is $45 a barrel.
 

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its common practice to buy strong well run companies in times of uncertainty such as GE

as for short on Oil, why Woody?

even if contrived id assume with all the tax credits to stimulate green energy initiatives that otherwise natural market forces couldn't sustain....

it will cause oil to rise heavy by summer

GE is a hedge fund disguised as a light bulb manufacturer

@)

I personally hope by the end of this all GE chops itself up and rids of its finance division

tiz would be all over that (the light bulb portion LOL)
 

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KBR might be worth a punt at these levels

spinoff of haliburton

@)

KBR is worth keeping a eye on, don't they have like $4 a share cash with a clean balance sheet.

Been cooling as Iraq does
 

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I bought the oil bull today. I could have waited to sell the bear until today, since the ETF has been based on the April contract since yesterday's trading.

Romanowski, my oil ETF trades, based on the NYMEX price for oil, represents my gambling money, in accord with the nature of this board. I've been watching oil for some months and feel that profits can be made from short term trades using the 2X derivatives as the market swings within a fixed range (basically $35-$47 more or less). I hope to make 10% return on the bull over a couple of weeks and then buy the bear again. If you watch the US oil storage stats they've been increasing for months and the storage at Cushing, OK is near capacity. Declining storage will indicate that oil has the potential to break out and if/when the economy improves it will likely move up to the $70/80 range.

I agree with buying strong well run companies. I'm retired (65) and in my pension portfolio I've moved from 50:50 equities:fixed income to 65:35. It's quite aggressive but so long as I can fund 5-6 years without having to sell equities I think I can ride this out, unless it becomes a severe depression when all bets are off. So far as oil goes I hold both an integrated oil and holdings in the tar sands where the cost of production is $45 a barrel.

Woody, which ETF is based upon the April contract?

I see the April contract is at 41.97 on the NYMEX. I'm thinking deflationary forces bring that price down.
 

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Woody, which ETF is based upon the April contract?

HOU on the Toronto exchange. It switches completely from the near month by the 9th trading day of the month.

Being Canadian I see no need to use the NYSE ETFs when the TSE vehicles also include $ hedging. Some day our $ will increase in value again.
 

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