BREAKING NEWS: New York prison escapee Richard Matt reportedly shot and killed by police.

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I would also be surprised if he's taken alive. I'm sure that dumb fat broad who helped them escape and that other guy hopes he isn't taken alive since dead men tell no tales.
 

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I would be surprised if he is taken alive......Going to a super max prison and living in solitary for the rest of his life.....He rather be dead....LOL
Not so sure, guy was getting more tang than a married man in there. Not to mention the celebrity status he would have. Hope he lives, I'd like to hear how they evaded this long.
 

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Not so sure, guy was getting more tang than a married man in there. Not to mention the celebrity status he would have. Hope he lives, I'd like to hear how they evaded this long.

He won`t be going back to that prison.......That dude will be in a super max prison......He`ll never be in general population.....Locked up 23 hours a day.

The story is plain as day.........Those 2 guys lived in the woods for 21 days.....It turned out that they had no plan.......Being only 40 miles from the prison is not a plan.
 
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He won`t be going back to that prison.......That dude will be in a super max prison......He`ll never be in general population.....Locked up 23 hours a day.

The story is plain as day.........Those 2 guys lived in the woods for 21 days.....It turned out that they had no plan.......Being only 40 miles from the prison is not a plan.

After the way they got out, maybe he's so pissed they didn't have a better plan afterwards ... better off just doing it yourself ( offing himself )
Still can't believe they didn't have a back-up plan other than that Fat Bitch picking them up.

In Gambling terms, I see it like betting a 12 team parlay, hitting 11 games and didn't hedge the last leg, even though the last game was played 3 hours after the 11 game was over ! Ha
 

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In Gambling terms, I see it like betting a 12 team parlay, hitting 11 games and didn't hedge the last leg, even though the last game was played 3 hours after the 11 game was over ! Ha

Oh its immeasurably worse than that. They broke out of a prison that no one has broken out of since it was built in 1884 (or at least thats what the News said) then they apparently just wandered around in the woods for 21 days because they didn't have a plan beyond the gal picking them up outside the prison.

I figure Matt wasa ready to go, day after his birthday prolly exhausted and no longer able to deal with the incomprehensible stupidity of not having a Plan B past the gal picking them up and he said to himself "Its Time."

Why else would he go shooting a gun at a TrailerVan or whatever the hell it was....that alerted the fuzz to his location.

I'll bet that "not answering" when the cops asked him to put down the shotgun was just a final somber look from his eyes that didn't need words to be understood....

"Take Me."
 

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After the way they got out, maybe he's so pissed they didn't have a better plan afterwards ... better off just doing it yourself ( offing himself )
Still can't believe they didn't have a back-up plan other than that Fat Bitch picking them up.

In Gambling terms, I see it like betting a 12 team parlay, hitting 11 games and didn't hedge the last leg, even though the last game was played 3 hours after the 11 game was over ! Ha

Great analogy BAS. LOL
 

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Greenbacks2;11133244It turned out that they had no plan.......Being only 40 miles from the prison is not a plan.[/QUOTE said:
How do you know they had no plan? Your just going by the story that fat woman prison worker tried to spin. The convicts story could be completely different.
 
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How do you know they had no plan? Your just going by the story that fat woman prison worker tried to spin. The convicts story could be completely different.

Well in truth, being caught 15-20 miles from where they started, says they had no other plan
 

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remember, he's the one that shot a cop 22 times and then ran over him. While I also would like to hear the story also. But seeing that we are on a gambling site, I don't like the odds of him coming out of this alive.

Maybe they could send in a couple of reporters to interview him for a few hours, take footage/soundbites, then let him run....
 

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How do you know they had no plan? Your just going by the story that fat woman prison worker tried to spin. The convicts story could be completely different.

Being 40 miles (or 20 miles whatever itwas) from the prison after this period of time is proof positive that they had no plan, not to mention firing a gun at a vehicle or whatever that was about. With the headstart they had even an an only slightly good plan would have seen them a hell of a lot father away than they were in 21 days.
 

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when your in jail..noone bothers to keep in contact with ya.. the longer you're in you're lucky if anyone other than your own mother bothers with you..i never ever thought there was a chance they had anyone on the outside willing to help.. trekking to canada and reloading at hunting cabins wasn't that bad of a plan, they were moving at night which wasn't a bad plan either..not sure why they only got as far as they did but could be that they were surrounded in which case a hostage situation / carjacking was their only move and Ricky Matton was attempting that when caught
 

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Ba‘al Zəvûv;11133367 said:
Being 40 miles (or 20 miles whatever itwas) from the prison after this period of time is proof positive that they had no plan, not to mention firing a gun at a vehicle or whatever that was about. With the headstart they had even an an only slightly good plan would have seen them a hell of a lot father away than they were in 21 days.
They had no plan after the bimbo got cold feet and didn't pick them up at the manhole. I want to know what their plan was before that other than killing her husband, if there was an alternative plan...I would also like more details of exactly what went on in that escape.
 

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They had no plan after the bimbo got cold feet and didn't pick them up at the manhole. I want to know what their plan was before that other than killing her husband, if there was an alternative plan...I would also like more details of exactly what went on in that escape.

Unfortunately the one of the two of them who could have best enunciated that is dead. Matt was said to have a "genius IQ" whatever that means. I've personally never trusted IQ measurements, think a person can be "genius" in an area (such as math, language or computer technology)but dumb as a box of rocks in pretty much everything else.

They test as "genius" but they're really actually an imbecile.

On The Whole.

So I don't really buy this calling people "genius" stuff. I don't doubt there are valid geniuses but its not as common as people are tagged with the term.
 

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yeah dude id like to see someone with a go pro shimmy the 400 yards thru that steam pipe


They had no plan after the bimbo got cold feet and didn't pick them up at the manhole. I want to know what their plan was before that other than killing her husband, if there was an alternative plan...I would also like more details of exactly what went on in that escape.
 

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Ba‘al Zəvûv;11133469 said:
Unfortunately the one of the two of them who could have best enunciated that is dead. Matt was said to have a "genius IQ" whatever that means. I've personally never trusted IQ measurements, think a person can be "genius" in an area (such as math, language or computer technology)but dumb as a box of rocks in pretty much everything else.

They test as "genius" but they're really actually an imbecile.

On The Whole.

So I don't really buy this calling people "genius" stuff. I don't doubt there are valid geniuses but its not as common as people are tagged with the term.
Well, the "dumb one" is the one who is still loose. I still think he could do plenty of damage to whoever else was involved in the escape if he's taken alive. He doesn't have anything to lose by spilling the beans. He was already doing a life sentence without parole...
 
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The plan was for that dumb ugly biatch to pick them up and drive for days. I'd like to know where they were supposed to drive to.

And that business about killing her husband was probably all BS to get her to go along with the plan to 1) get them the breakout tools, and 2) to drive them to some pre planned destination.

Can imagine the "oh sheets" that flew when she wasn't at the manhole cover to chauffer them away. Those boys were fucked right then and there.
 

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I think the real plan was to probably kill her her once she got them far enough away from that place. Then they go their separate ways. But like I said, we'll never know for sure unless he's captured alive because right now we're only hearing one side of the story..
 

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they would've had time to go her house, kill hubby, steal all his weapons and then take the dumb bitch as a hostage the entire time.. sometimes you don't have the luxury of planB.. that woulda been one helluva run if pig-woman would've kept her word.. really fucking hard to come up with a solid plan A let alone a solid B from inside Clinton.. heading strait to cabins that people leave guns at was what i would've done also.. 1st and foremost they needed guns, needed it like oxygen.. I'm guessing by the time they were able to get guns the wide perimeter had been set already.. I'm not gonna go monday morning QB on Ricky Matt.. dude cashed my over and gave some decent drama..but wow if plan A had gotten off on the right start , imagine the fucking commotion.
 

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those retards in that countryside were all armed so none was even scared..dudes were driving campers deep into the search area after having to pass thru a checkpoint , i would've stayed home.. BUT if they were on the highways of the usa? soccer moms etc..the hysteria woulve been similar to the dc sniper.. the dc sniper was some insane intensity , dudes were getting sniped putting gas in their car.. peoples heads were on swivels walking into convenience stores
 

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That DC Sniper stuff was cruel sickness amplified times infinity. You lose a loved one behind some pointless cruel insanity like that and you never recover, I don't care what anyone says or how strong a mind or constitution a guy has, you're forever mourning a loss that is more unfair than should be even possible. In any Dimension. Oklahoma City...the same. 911. or any one of thousands of incidents to multiplous to list. Just since this young Century began.

I don't think these guys were looking to hurt anyone. If they were that would have happened in those 21 days. I don't feel like they would have gone On The Road "savage-style".

Hopefully somehow the story gets told, from the remaining alive guy's own telling. I seriously suspect though any Media tries to pull this off and they end up sharing a cell with the Plump Betrayer of Men.

On multiple charges. Maybe cops can't do that to the Media though? Per our Constitution. As if that really stops The Man anymore anyways lol.

GoSooners got me wanting to hear the story now though. Needing to hear what the plan was and what happened after she let them down.
 

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