Brady's numbers, first superbowl run 1td 1int (1td in three games wow he did alot to help his team win) second superbowl run 5tds 2ints. Dilfer who everyone dumps on had 3tds 1int in his superbowl run, point is it's a TEAM sport, brady doesn't win super bowls, he just doesn't lose them like dilfer. Because of the medias hype over Baltimores #2 RANKED defence, dilfer received no credit, when he had a decent playoff run, just as good if not better than brady's first superbowl run. To say a player is best ever just because he wins is absurd! It's a team sport. Don't believe the hype and think outside the box. Montana never won when he left SF. Gretzky who is the best ever, never won when he left Edmonton. Edmonton being such a great team went on to win the cup without the greatest player ever. Again it's a team sport, winning championships determines best team not best player.
PHD, I agree with you. The best TEAM will win the Superbowl. I think that is why Belichick and the Pats have been winning so much. He wants players that play for a TEAM and as a TEAM. No room for individuals. The whole is greater than............blah blah blah or something like that. A lot of people thought Indy and Pit both were better than the Pats. They may have had some better players, but not a better team. Tom Brady fits this mold perfectly. I don't think you could just plug any QB into his spot and win. He has proven to be a winner and that's what the game is all about.
Hey guys and gals..
I personally can't believe that media types are actually comparing Brady to Montana at this stage of Brady's career, Joe Montana led the 49er's to FOUR Super Bowl wins with an average winning score of 35-16 and Montana was named the Super Bowl MVP three times with WR Jerry Rice getting the award in the niners other SB win.
Tom Brady is good and there is no doubt about that, but PLEASE..Brady is NOT in Joe Montana's class, Pittsburgh QB Terry Bradshaw also led his Steelers to FOUR Super Bowl wins with an average winning score of 26-18 and Bradshaw was named the Super Bowl MVP two times with WR Lynn Swann and RB Franco Harris getting the award in the Steelers other SB wins.
John Elway led his Bronco's to FIVE Super Bowls, Elway lost his first three appearances but won his last two trips to the big game before retiring and was named the MVP in one Super Bowl while RB Terrell Davis picked up the trophy in the other win.
The point is...DON'T put Tom Brady in such an elite group until he has shown the long term ability to get his team to the promised land, winning two SB's is definately a good start but consider that EACH of the two wins came on last second FG's.
Until Brady is able to win FOUR Super Bowls like Joe Montana or Terry Bradshaw or is able to show perserverance like John Elway in getting to FIVE Super Bowls...he's not in their class period.
take care and good luck!
Deb
I personally can't believe that media types are actually comparing Brady to Montana at this stage of Brady's career, Joe Montana led the 49er's to FOUR Super Bowl wins with an average winning score of 35-16 and Montana was named the Super Bowl MVP three times with WR Jerry Rice getting the award in the niners other SB win.
Tom Brady is good and there is no doubt about that, but PLEASE..Brady is NOT in Joe Montana's class, Pittsburgh QB Terry Bradshaw also led his Steelers to FOUR Super Bowl wins with an average winning score of 26-18 and Bradshaw was named the Super Bowl MVP two times with WR Lynn Swann and RB Franco Harris getting the award in the Steelers other SB wins.
John Elway led his Bronco's to FIVE Super Bowls, Elway lost his first three appearances but won his last two trips to the big game before retiring and was named the MVP in one Super Bowl while RB Terrell Davis picked up the trophy in the other win.
The point is...DON'T put Tom Brady in such an elite group until he has shown the long term ability to get his team to the promised land, winning two SB's is definately a good start but consider that EACH of the two wins came on last second FG's.
Until Brady is able to win FOUR Super Bowls like Joe Montana or Terry Bradshaw or is able to show perserverance like John Elway in getting to FIVE Super Bowls...he's not in their class period.
take care and good luck!
Deb
Gal, you need to stop putting the fentanyl in the bowl with your bong hits. I'm a die-hard Steelers fan, got my hoodie on as I type, but your facts are fiction. NO QB other than Tom Brady has taken his team to 7 Superbowls. Brady has 5, count them, 5 Superbowl wins. Bradshaw has four, Big Ben the other two of the Steelers leading 6 wins. You're way out of bounds here, get a sports almanac so you can quote a little more intelligently.
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What never gets stated when discussing Joe Montana is that he had the father of the West Coast offense, Bill Walsh, as his coach as that offense was being written. That offense has become the NFL standard and at the time opposing teams didn't know how to defend it. Joe Montana also played before free agency, meaning that arguably the best offense ever assembled remained basically intact throughout his Fortyniner career. Those are huge advantages that need to be considered when evaluating Joe Montana's career.
Brady has arguably the best coach of all time but none of those other huge advantages that Joe Montana had.
I was in the SuperDome in 1989 when Joe Montana's Niners bludgeoned the Broncos 55-10. Literally men against boys. Never saw such wide open receivers play after play. That stuff simply doesn't happen in the NFL anymore. Montana played in an era where great coaching and a great supporting cast made it much easier to excel.
We love Joe Montana. (I made a bundle of money that day supporting the Niners) But Brady has had to operate in a different era with a constantly changing supporting cast, very, very few of them all stars.
Brady just has to be the GOAT.
Brady has arguably the best coach of all time but none of those other huge advantages that Joe Montana had.
I was in the SuperDome in 1989 when Joe Montana's Niners bludgeoned the Broncos 55-10. Literally men against boys. Never saw such wide open receivers play after play. That stuff simply doesn't happen in the NFL anymore. Montana played in an era where great coaching and a great supporting cast made it much easier to excel.
We love Joe Montana. (I made a bundle of money that day supporting the Niners) But Brady has had to operate in a different era with a constantly changing supporting cast, very, very few of them all stars.
Brady just has to be the GOAT.
I apologize, but a few years ago, ok, maybe 40 years ago, I'd say Bradshaw walked on water, four rings, can't argue with that. Then Montana came along, but as Mike above points out, far different system. Chuck Knoll was a coach in his time, none better, but Walsh in his time was better than better gets. So is the QB the product of the coach? IMO, damn straight. Think about it, Brady was what, a 7th round afterthought, but Belichick saw something, and damn, I wish I saw somethings like that, LOL.
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Brady finished 35-of-53 for 337 yards, with three touchdowns and no interceptions. It marked his 10th career postseason game with three touchdown passes, which broke a tie with his boyhood idol, Joe Montana, for the most in NFL history. Brady also extended his own playoff record for 300-yard passing games, with his 13th.
No individual is ever the best ever in a team sport. But it's fair to say he is one of the best. And Brady, like many others, could be on any team and make the surrounding players better (like many of the great QBs that played the game). I think Brady is incredible. But with any QB, if I were to put him on the Tampa Buccaneers of 1976, no one would know who he was.
