Bottom Line...Waterboarding works as a humane interrogation technique

[docmercer--banned]

Patriot:

where do ya think the orders orginated from with the rape and torture
that went on inside the Infamous Prison in Iraq?

Judge Orders Release of Abu Ghraib Child Rape Photos

Submitted by davidswanson on Mon, 2006-10-23 20:54. By Greg Mitchell, http://www.editorandpublisher.com
NEW YORK A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image. Last year a Republican senator conceded that they contained scenes of "rape and murder"

Kids sodomized at Abu Ghraib, Pentagon has the videos - Hersh

Wed Jul 14, 2004 at 08:33:32 PM PDT

(From the diaries -- kos) Seymour Hersh says the US government has videotapes of boys being sodomized at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

"The worst is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking," the reporter told an ACLU convention last week. Hersh says there was "a massive amount of criminal wrongdoing that was covered up at the highest command out there, and higher."



This is a summary of Hersh speaking at the ACLU 2004 America At A Crossroads conference according to EdCone.com (via Oliver Willis). I verified by watching the video myself (it starts at 1:07, the "worse stuff" part starts at 1:30).

 

[Mistermj]

Ayuh....spare me the whining about videotaped chainsaw sessions when you (BushCo cheerleaders) are dropping bombs on civilians and waterboarding.

In households like mine, inhumane and obscene cover all such events. While in BushCo households, they actually have a Ratings System for atrocities towards other human beings.

Please...despite how many times you lie like Doc Mercer...it doesn't make it true.

I'm disappointed in you...I thought you might at least be above this crap.

 

[docmercer--banned]

Miss MJ ...

Love how you throw my name in with "lies"

There isnt a day that goes by you arent busted with more of your
"hot" stores that are "going to destroy Obama's campaign .."

 

[barman]

MJ insists that no Iraqi civilians have been killed by US military violence.

Only the "Bad Guys" are killed by US military, thus helping to assure that all violence they perpetrate is "good".

Who needs Orwellian Newspeak with such delusion present and accounted for by BushCo cheerleaders?

 

[docmercer--banned]

Yeah ...

those 10 yr old kids raped in Bush's Prison were "deserving" for being born
as Iraqis

Its very simple: ask Mr MJ or Patriot what they would do if N Koreans
had blown up their home ... had killed their parents and raped their 12
yr old daughter


They cant answer for a simple reason ... they know damn well they would
be doing the exact same thing the "Insurgents" are trying to do to
American soldiers

 

[Mistermj]

MJ insists that no Iraqi civilians have been killed by US military violence.

Only the "Bad Guys" are killed by US military, thus helping to assure that all violence they perpetrate is "good".

Who needs Orwellian Newspeak with such delusion present and accounted for by BushCo cheerleaders?

I didn't say none...but thanks for the disinformation anyway.

Turning less than 30,000 into the millions you constantly rail about is the real Orwellian mischief going on here. Not even the UN believes that.

Not a word from the Dems when the Clinton administration admitted killing half a million Iraqi babies with sanctions.

It's easy to argue Bush and company put a stop to the senseless deaths.

Nice try...just more utter crap. :aktion033

 

[docmercer--banned]

MJ: wrong ONCE AGAIN !!

The sanctions, first imposed in 1990 after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, were administered by the U.N., not the U.S.

They were first imposed on all exports from Iraq and occupied Kuwait, and all non-humanitarian imports, in an effort to persuade Saddam Hussein to retreat within his own borders.

After the Gulf War, they were broadened to include a dismantling of Iraq's biological, chemical, nuclear, and missile-based weapons systems, out of fear that Hussein would otherwise lash out again.

 

[rollywood]

Liberals own the film making industry...they make a lot of lefty fairy tale films and propaganda.

Thankfully...nobody goes to see the garbage.

why dont you spare us the comment,unless you go watch the film.its a fucking documentary,not a speilberg film.nobody watches this garbage.youre right.thats sadly what is wrong with this country.attitudes like yours.i feel sorry for you.

 

[docmercer--banned]

Love the Righties ...

HOLLYWOOD is a bad word unless it is:

RONNIE REAGAN or FRED THOMPSON !!!

 

[asufan550]

why dont you spare us the comment,unless you go watch the film.its a fucking documentary,not a speilberg film.nobody watches this garbage.youre right.thats sadly what is wrong with this country.attitudes like yours.i feel sorry for you.

A documentary like "Bowling for Columbine," or "Fahrenheit 911" are documentaries? Or do you mean a legitimate, real documentary?

 

[docmercer--banned]

ASU ...

ghees what would that be?

The Lies on ABC with "Pathways to 9-11"???

 

[asufan550]

Never heard of it, but you proved my point anyway. Filmmakers have an agenda. That included those that make "documentaries."

 

[punter]

This an excerpt from a story on torture.

It's difficult, therefore, to know precisely what limits governed Pentagon-approved interrogations for months thereafter. But if the agency took the advice of the CIA, there may have been very few restrictions. On October 2, 2002, senior CIA attorney Jonathan Fredman met with staff at Guantanamo to discuss harsh interrogation. "It's basically subject to perception," Fredman said, according to minutes of the meeting. "If the detainee dies, you're doing it wrong."

 

[docmercer--banned]

How much would ya shell out on PPV to watch Bush and Cheney get
Waterboarded??

Throw in Rove getting ass raped by 6 "Insurgents" in a cell and
lets start the bidding !!

"Do I hear $99???"

 

[Mistermj]

MJ: wrong ONCE AGAIN !!

The sanctions, first imposed in 1990 after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, were administered by the U.N., not the U.S.

They were first imposed on all exports from Iraq and occupied Kuwait, and all non-humanitarian imports, in an effort to persuade Saddam Hussein to retreat within his own borders.

After the Gulf War, they were broadened to include a dismantling of Iraq's biological, chemical, nuclear, and missile-based weapons systems, out of fear that Hussein would otherwise lash out again.

Doc...I don't mention something unless I have proof.

You are wrong...yet again. Your misinformation is pathetic.

Here is Clinton's Sec of State to explain it to you.

Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it.

--60 Minutes (5/12/96)

 

[punter]

I really dont want to see anyone tortured. Tried as war criminals and hung maybe.

According to the article the original orders came from Rumsfeld's office.

 

[Mistermj]

This an excerpt from a story on torture.

It's difficult, therefore, to know precisely what limits governed Pentagon-approved interrogations for months thereafter. But if the agency took the advice of the CIA, there may have been very few restrictions. On October 2, 2002, senior CIA attorney Jonathan Fredman met with staff at Guantanamo to discuss harsh interrogation. "It's basically subject to perception," Fredman said, according to minutes of the meeting. "If the detainee dies, you're doing it wrong."

No source...no link...no evidence here of anything.

Calling it a story hits the nail on the head.

 

[ScottL]

doc murtha scribbled,

"How much would ya shell out on PPV to watch Bush and Cheney get Waterboarded?? Throw in Rove getting ass raped by 6 "Insurgents" in a cell and lets start the bidding !! Do I hear $99???"


You would probably pay 99 bucks to see any man gang raped.

But I'd pay over 2 Dimes to see you waterboarded But I'd probably be outbid by plenty of others in this room.

 

[punter]

Its just an interesting quote. If I did all that you still wouldn't belive it. You post more false shit on here of all posters.

 

[punter]

That was for mj.